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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #352 on: March 09, 2020, 06:17:29 PM »
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The bag was determined to be constructed from materials available from the TSBD first floor wrapping area.      FALSE!

The original FBI lab report stated that the paper of which the bag was fabricated, DID NOT  match the roll of paper in the TSBD shipping department, that was being used to wrap books.     FBI agent Vince Drain retyped that FBI lab report and changed the wording in the memo to make it appear the the paper of the bag matched the roll of paper in the TSBD shipping department.

I am merely putting the final WC case for the bag Walt. As you know there are two versions of the memo. Can you prove which is the original as you claim?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #353 on: March 09, 2020, 06:48:58 PM »
LHO was a cheapskate. He was collecting cigarette butts for Marina...

LOL!!.....    You have really developed a low opinion of the patsy, haven't you Mr Collins?

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #354 on: March 09, 2020, 07:07:11 PM »
LOL!!.....    You have really developed a low opinion of the patsy, haven't you Mr Collins?

Hey, in the sixties the average cost of a pack of cigarettes was $0.30. If my calculations are correct, that was the equivalent of the compensation for 12-minutes of work time for LHO...

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #355 on: March 09, 2020, 07:07:55 PM »
All the pedantic nitpicking in the world doesn't change the fact that a long bag was discovered next to the SN.  Oswald was seen that morning carrying a long bag.  His prints are on that bag which is next to some boxes that also had his prints and by the very window from which fired bullet casings from his rifle are found.  The police officers searching the floor - which is covered in boxes - are looking for a rifle or shooter.  Not necessarily a bag.  It is not necessary to reconstruct with absolute certainty who first "discovered" the bag whatever that means.  It was there.  It eventually came to the attention of someone while others may not have noticed it because of the extreme clutter on that floor.  It may have even been moved during the search itself before it dawned on someone that it could be linked to the crime. There is also often confusion in the record about which "bag" is being discussed - the long bag or lunch bag.  Witnesses use imprecise language in response to questions that are subject to subjective interpretation of their own imperfect recollection of times and events.  It may be impossible to reconstruct the "discovery" of the bag with absolute certainty but that itself does nothing to undermine the conclusion that it was there, has Oswald's prints on it, resembles the long bag he carried that morning, there is no accounting for a slightly shorter bag or any other similar long bag in the building along the lines Frazier estimated, Oswald denied carrying any long bag that day because he was lying, and is found not just at "Oswald's place of work" as sometimes dishonestly characterized but the exact crime scene within the building.  It has no apparent work-related purpose for being there and no one else with access to that floor ever comes forward to provide any explanation whatsoever for it to have been there.  It is a peculiar bag both due to its location, size, shape, and the fact that is homemade.  There are no pictures which depict any similar bags at use in the building for any work purpose.  It is clearly singular and related to the crime.  The notion that the DPD constructed it and then somehow confused a bag that they themselves made for a legitimate purpose to carry the rifle as evidence but then somehow forgot they did so and instead decided to lie about finding near the SN is absurd in my opinion.  The absence of a time machine to sort out exactly who first discovered it with absolute certainty is just an exercise in endless pedantic futility that changes nothing.

Good one. Again.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #356 on: March 09, 2020, 07:20:20 PM »
LHO was a cheapskate. He was collecting cigarette butts for Marina...

Or 'Mommy Dearest'

After all, she bathed the little prick until age 11.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #357 on: March 09, 2020, 07:39:44 PM »
It seems just a few months were sufficient to dull memories of trained police doesn't it? Unfortunately we have an unsatisfactory evidence base to work with. Pity the WC staffers were unable to help with clarification. I understand your reluctance to look for a logical answers to the questions posed. I believe you appreciate my desire for them to be answered.

At least you stepped up to represent a normally vocal group. It seems the WC narrative has Oswald transporting a disassembled rifle in a paper bag with only one end sealed. He folded the bag an unknown number of times and left it next to a box he sat on to shoot the President. The crime lab discovered remnants of a chicken lunch and assumed it to be Oswald'sfor some time after the event. After assisting Day with the rifle discovery Studebaker returned to the SN. Day left the building with the rifle. Studebaker dusted the bottle on the sixth floor and not the lunch sack. He moved to the SN and about this time Johnson claimed the bag was unfolded. Eventually dusted for prints by Studebaker it was removed by Johnson and Montgomery before Day returned to the TSBD.

'the WC staffers'

IIRC, at least one staffer stated something to the effect that they were all trying like hell to find a conspiracy, adding something like that it would do wonders for their individual careers going forward.

Had they been successful, seems like they would also become somebodies for the next 10,000 years

 ;)
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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #358 on: March 09, 2020, 07:53:12 PM »
Or 'Mommy Dearest'

After all, she bathed the little prick until age 11.
What a troll.
'the WC staffers'

At least one staffer stated something to the effect that they were trying like hell to find a conspiracy, adding that it would do wonders got their individual careers going forward.

Had they been successful, seems like they would also become somebodies for the next 10,000 years
 ;)
What a pile! Are you serious? Anyone and everyone that denounced the Warren Report findings were shamed, disgraced, humiliated and/or ruined professionally.
And often referred to as kooks ::)
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« Reply #359 on: March 09, 2020, 07:59:26 PM »
What a troll.What a pile! Are you serious? Anyone and everyone that denounced the Warren Report findings were shamed, disgraced, humiliated and/or ruined professionally.
And often referred to as kooks ::)

The WC was not commissioned to examine claims from Laughing Factories, Funny Farms, Looney Bins, nor from the far shores of the lunatic fringe.

Amen to that, and thanks for once again making my day.
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