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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #560 on: March 23, 2020, 03:59:58 AM »
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From the Warren Report..... Coulda..woulda..shoulda...possibly.. maybe.. is not positive evidence.
Gee--- if we only had someone who saw Oswald conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package ::)

Wonder how much fell out of the bag while Montgomery held it upright, open end down during transport. Is this really the way any intelligent person would treat important evidence that was considered to transport something related to a crime?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #561 on: March 23, 2020, 10:12:17 AM »
Charles, the only color photos of this scene are from Jay Skaggs, as far as I know.. The Skaggs slides all have a blue color cast-which I made a correction for. Skaggs19 shows a man in a sweater? Possibly blue. He is backlit and underexposed but this is probably the man you saw. He does have a movie camera to his eye and aiming just where Day is standing. So yes, I think he could  have filmed at least some of the YouTube film. Perhaps Denis Morrisette knows his ID.

Skaggs19:
https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/22067/image-of-lt-j-c-carl-day-holding-rifle-outside-the-book?ctx=7aeaa966-f063-440c-9cbe-0afb9043ac16&idx=15

Cropped, enhanced view of cameraman.in Skaggs19:


Yes, that’s the one! I know that angles sometimes distort what we see in photos and films. So knowing where the cameraman is standing can help when we are interpreting the information in them. Thanks!

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #562 on: March 23, 2020, 03:02:22 PM »
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From the Warren Report.....

Fibers in paper bag matched fibers in blanket.--When Paul M. Stombaugh of the FBI Laboratory examined the paper bag, he found, on the inside, a single brown delustered viscose fiber and several light green cotton fibers.198 The blanket in which the rifle was stored was composed of brown and green cotton, viscose and woolen fibers.199
The single brown viscose fiber found in the bag matched some of the brown viscose fibers from the blanket in all observable characteristics.200 The green cotton fibers found in the paper bag matched some of the green cotton fibers in the blanket "in all observable microscopic characteristics." 201 Despite these matches, however, Stombaugh was unable to render on opinion that the fibers which he found in the bag had probably come from the blanket, because other types of fibers present in the blanket were not found in the bag. He concluded:     All I would say here is that it is possible that these fibers could have come from this blanket., because this blanket is composed of brown and green woolen fibers, brown and green delustered viscose fibers, and brown and green cotton fibers... We found no brown cotton fibers, no green viscose fibers, and no woolen fibers.
    So if I found all of these then I would have been able to say these fibers probably had come from this blanket. But since I found so few, then I would say the possibility exists, these fibers could have come from this blanket.202 Stombaugh confirmed that the rifle could have picked up fibers from the blanket and transferred them to the paper bag.203 In light of the other evidence linking Lee Harvey Oswald, the blanket, and the rifle to the paper bag found on the sixth floor, the Commission considered Stombaugh's testimony of probative value in deciding whether Oswald carried the rifle into the building in the paper bag.

 Coulda..woulda..shoulda...possibly.. maybe.. is not positive evidence.
Gee--- if we only had someone who saw Oswald conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package ::)




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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #563 on: March 23, 2020, 03:22:04 PM »
I'm trying to imagine how the Carcano was wrapped in the blanket.
How it would not be identifiable as a rifle.




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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #564 on: March 23, 2020, 03:45:56 PM »
Back to the sack-----
From the Warren Report..... Coulda..woulda..shoulda...possibly.. maybe.. is not positive evidence.
Gee--- if we only had someone who saw Oswald conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package ::)

"If we only had someone who saw a [fantasy conspirator] conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package."  The bag was found in the building.  Thus, we know that it was possible for someone to have carried it in unnoticed.  That includes Oswald.  And there is a witness that confirms that Oswald carried a long package into the building that morning that was not his lunch and for which there is no other accounting for except as the bag found with his prints on it on the 6th floor.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #565 on: March 23, 2020, 04:21:56 PM »
Back to the sack-----
From the Warren Report..... Coulda..woulda..shoulda...possibly.. maybe.. is not positive evidence.
Gee--- if we only had someone who saw Oswald conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package ::)

Hang about while I continue to search psychiatric hospitals, funny farms, laughing factories, looney bins, and the far shores of the lunatic fringe for Stephen King's magic time-travel closet.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #566 on: March 23, 2020, 04:42:38 PM »
I'm trying to imagine how the Carcano was wrapped in the blanket.
How it would not be identifiable as a rifle.

If only Mr. Paine had rifled through Oswald's belongings...
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #567 on: March 23, 2020, 04:42:43 PM »
"If we only had someone who saw a [fantasy conspirator] conspicuously coming into the building carrying a large HEAVY paper package."  The bag was found in the building.  Thus, we know that it was possible for someone to have carried it in unnoticed.  That includes Oswald.  And there is a witness that confirms that Oswald carried a long package into the building that morning that was not his lunch and for which there is no other accounting for except as the bag found with his prints on it on the 6th floor.
Frazier saw him carry it into the building. His sister saw Oswald carrying a large package with him as he walked to Frazier's car. I know I'm a lone assassin sheeple who believes "thuh government" but I'll wager that he brought it with him to the building. He didn't leave it in the car.

You're responding to a person who doesn't believe Oswald went to Mexico City. All of the evidence that he did was faked, planted, manufactured to make it look like he did.

And I'll go back to asking the type of questions that the conspiracy believers hate: "If Marina and Ruth Paine and others were coerced into giving false testimony then why didn't they coerce them into saying they saw Oswald with a large package/bag that morning?"

They can't answer that. It causes all kinds of angry responses. Why? Because if they are forced to answer them, if they are forced to consider it, then their entire "Oswald was framed" theory is severely challenged. A kind of conspiracy cognitive dissonance ensues and they don't know how to react other than to be upset.


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