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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2020, 06:42:45 PM »
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"The panel studied two photographs taken within minutes of the assassination. While no human face or form could be detected
in the sixth floor southeast window, the panel was able to conclude that a stack of boxes had been rearranged during the
interval of the taking of the two photographs"


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Lillian Mooneyham
a.Dallas County clerk watching motorcade from Judge King's windows on the second floor, southwest corner, Criminal
Courts Building, with Mrs. Rose Clark and Jeanette hooker.
b.Heard three shots(?)
c.Heard first shot; saw President slump; thought it was Firecracker.
d.Second and third shots were closer together.
e.Saw Mrs. Kennedy climb on back of car.
f.Mooneyham went Judge Hyer's windows on the third floor of Records Building.
g.People running to pergola.
h.4 1/2 to 5 minutes after shots she sees man standing behind some boxes on the 6th floor, TSBD.

"The panel studied two photographs taken within minutes of the assassination. While no human face or form could be detected
in the sixth floor southeast window, the panel was able to conclude that a stack of boxes had been rearranged during the
interval of the taking of the two photographs"


They were fooled by the reversing of the chronology of the photos..... the box on the sill is positioned differently......But not because the box was moved in the thirty seconds after the shots were fired..... The Powell photo was taken BEFORE the shooting.....and the Dillard photo was taken DURING the shooting..... And they verified that "no human face or form could be detected"   and the reason that  "no human face or form could be detected" is because there was nobody firing a rifle from that window.

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 10:00:24 PM »
The Powell photo was taken BEFORE the shooting.....and the Dillard photo was taken DURING the shooting.....

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 11:27:54 PM »
"The panel studied two photographs taken within minutes of the assassination. While no human face or form could be detected
in the sixth floor southeast window, the panel was able to conclude that a stack of boxes had been rearranged during the
interval of the taking of the two photographs"


They were fooled by the reversing of the chronology of the photos....
SENATOR COOPER - Have you fired other types of rifles other than the one you used?

Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; the first one I had was a 30-30 Marlin lever type.

SENATOR COOPER - Have you ever seen the rifle that is alleged to have belonged to Lee Oswald?

Mr. BAKER - I saw it, a photograph of it, in the newspaper.

SENATOR COOPER - Do you know what kind of rifle it is?

Mr. BAKER - Not offhand. I heard it was some foreign make gun. Most of the boys down there at the police

department have had dealings with foreign type guns, rifles, you know of this kind, and a lot of them sell them,

and a lot of them rework them, you know, make them into deer rifles.. the box on the sill is positioned differently......But not because the box was moved in the thirty seconds after the shots were fired..... The Powell photo was taken BEFORE the shooting.....and the Dillard photo was taken DURING the shooting..... And they verified that "no human face or form could be detected"   and the reason that  "no human face or form could be detected" is because there was nobody firing a rifle from that window.


"The Powell photo was taken BEFORE the shooting.....and the Dillard photo was taken DURING the shooting"

I think you're wrong about the timing of the photos. What information are you basing your conclusion on?

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 11:56:32 PM »
How do 3 police officers with military backgrounds swear the rifle was a Mauser, not because it looked like one but because they read it on the barrel, then 2 change their story. And the one who didn't change his story (because he knew what he saw and wasn't gonna lie) gets fired.

The ridiculous tale that the rifle found hidden beneath boxes of books on the sixth floor was a Mauser, has been shown to be utterly false .....

According to whom, you?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2020, 12:15:55 AM »
According to whom, you?

Mr Trojan...Are you visually impaired?    There are dozens of photos that clearly show that the rifle that was recovered from beneath the boxes on the sixth floor was without any doubt a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The earliest photos were taken by Tom Alyea and they show Lt Day dusting a MANNLICHER CARCANO with finger print powder.

But unless you extract your head....you'll never see that this is the truth.

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2020, 12:25:17 AM »
Mr Trojan...Are you visually impaired?    There are dozens of photos that clearly show that the rifle that was recovered from beneath the boxes on the sixth floor was without any doubt a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The earliest photos were taken by Tom Alyea and they show Lt Day dusting a MANNLICHER CARCANO with finger print powder.

But unless you extract your head....you'll never see that this is the truth.

Pls extract your own head, I'm talking about the 1st rifle they found, which was the token rifle that someone took a few shots with from the SN. The Carcano never fired a shot. Fritz was supposed to avoid finding the Mauser but you know how inept the DPD was. They passed it off as one of theirs.

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2020, 01:39:17 PM »
Pls extract your own head, I'm talking about the 1st rifle they found, which was the token rifle that someone took a few shots with from the SN. The Carcano never fired a shot

Fritz was supposed to avoid finding the Mauser but you know how inept the DPD was. They passed it off as one of theirs.

There was only ONE rifle found on the sixth floor....   And two,  6.5 mm spent shells.    Weitzman and Boone found the 6.5mm CARCANO where it had been well hidden beneath a pallet of book boxes.  There are many photos that clearly show the rifle is a 6.5mm Model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano short rifle.

Do you think the conspirators would have been so stupid that they would have planted the spent 6.5mm Carcano shells and then planted a rifle of a different caliber???     Even Roger Craig admitted that it wouldn't have made logical sense to plant spent shells that didn't fit the rifle.
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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2020, 05:52:19 PM »
Mr Trojan...Are you visually impaired?    There are dozens of photos that clearly show that the rifle that was recovered from beneath the boxes on the sixth floor was without any doubt a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The earliest photos were taken by Tom Alyea and they show Lt Day dusting a MANNLICHER CARCANO with finger print powder.

If you really think you can identify a specific brand and model number from the fuzzy, washed out Alyea film then you have quite an imagination.

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