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Offline Gerry Down

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Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« on: March 26, 2020, 12:39:16 AM »
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When you watch this video from "Dave The Insurance Guy" of Oswalds journey from his rooming house to the scene of the Tippit murder, it seems difficult to image he could have walked that distance in only 10 minutes (1:04pm, leaves bus stop outside rooming house and arrives on 10th street at 1:14pm before being stopped and shooting Tippit).

Surely he would have to break into a quick jog or even a run?

The main part of the video is in the first 5 minutes where Dave drives the distance involved:

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Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« on: March 26, 2020, 12:39:16 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 01:00:26 AM »
When you watch this video from "Dave The Insurance Guy" of Oswalds journey from his rooming house to the scene of the Tippit murder, it seems difficult to image he could have walked that distance in only 10 minutes (1:04pm, leaves bus stop outside rooming house and arrives on 10th street at 1:14pm before being stopped and shooting Tippit).

Surely he would have to break into a quick jog or even a run?

The main part of the video is in the first 5 minutes where Dave drives the distance involved:

Oswald couldn't have walked the distance in 10 minutes, but what is more important is the answer to the question why he would go to 10th/Patton in the first place. There is nothing there. So, not only why would he walk there, when he could have gone in far more plausible directions, but also why would he even run to get there?

Just how many people do you know run to a go-nowhere destination for no apparant reason?

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 01:20:42 AM »
Oswald couldn't have walked the distance in 10 minutes, but what is more important is the answer to the question why he would go to 10th/Patton in the first place. There is nothing there. So, not only why would he walk there, when he could have gone in far more plausible directions, but also why would he even run to get there?

Just how many people do you know run to a go-nowhere destination for no apparant reason?

I think he was going to Freeway 35 to catch a bus to Redbird airport.

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 01:20:42 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 01:38:22 AM »
I think he was going to Freeway 35 to catch a bus to Redbird airport.

I don't think there were any busstops on the Freeway, but even if there were, it still doesn't explain how he ended up at 10th street.
It would have been far easier to simply carry on, down Beckley, to get to Jefferson where there were busstops. There was no need for a diversion to 10th street.

Besides, he could have catched a bus at multiple locations prior to getting to 10th street.... It doesn't make sense.

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 06:04:45 AM »
So are we assuming that Oswald really did this?

He went to home, to grab a jacket at 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon on a hot sunny Texas day to wear over his long sleeved flannel, and his handy pistol, so he could make it as quickly as possible to 10th and Patton.... to kill a cop.

Why would Oswald go to 10th & Patton in the first place? Because he knew Tippit would be there? I don't even think Tippit knew he would be there, because he was clearly looking for someone if he was pulling over cars and driving like a crazy man.

Wouldn't it be more plausible that Tippit was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and ran into the wrong person? Otherwise why would 10th & Patton be such an important meeting place, for Oswald or anyone else? If Tippit was supposed to meet someone there, why was he making stops to use the phone and pulling over cars searching for people?

It seems people are taking witness stories as gospel. "So and so saw Oswald at 1:04 p.m. at blah blah blah." Why are people still putting so much faith into witness descriptions and allegations when we know witnesses were being persuaded and  threatened to recant & fabricate stories?

It's all hearsay evidence, and hearsay isn't even allowed in court cases. For good reason. Plus we know the police were dirty and covering things up. Everything should be considered tainted. Can't trust any of it. It's like people calling Oswald guilty based on the rifle found at the TBD, when there was clearly more than 1 being used to frame him. It just doesn't make any sense.

Asking if he ran or walked to a specific area without knowing if he was even there at all is silly. 

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2020, 10:56:03 AM »
When you watch this video from "Dave The Insurance Guy" of Oswalds journey from his rooming house to the scene of the Tippit murder, it seems difficult to image he could have walked that distance in only 10 minutes (1:04pm, leaves bus stop outside rooming house and arrives on 10th street at 1:14pm before being stopped and shooting Tippit).

Surely he would have to break into a quick jog or even a run?

The main part of the video is in the first 5 minutes where Dave drives the distance involved:


Hugh Aynesworth was told by Earlene Roberts that he was the first reporter on the scene at 1026 North Beckley. And that the police had just left after searching the place. Here is what she said to Hugh: “He came in running like the dickens,” she said, and didn’t respond when she asked him his hurry. “He just ran in his room, got a short tan coat, and ran back out.”

(Page 50 and 51 of “Witness to History” by Hugh Aynesworth.)

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 11:03:20 AM »
I think he was going to Freeway 35 to catch a bus to Redbird airport.

Bill Brown believes Oswald was walking west when stopped. Was that the route discussed?

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Re: Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 11:04:07 AM »

Hugh Aynesworth was told by Earlene Roberts that he was the first reporter on the scene at 1026 North Beckley. And that the police had just left after searching the place. Here is what she said to Hugh: “He came in running like the dickens,” she said, and didn’t respond when she asked him his hurry. “He just ran in his room, got a short tan coat, and ran back out.”

(Page 50 and 51 of “Witness to History” by Hugh Aynesworth.)

What did she testify under oath before the WC Charles?

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 11:04:07 AM »