Did Oswald run (rather than walk) to 10th and Patton?

[Richard Smith]

Oswald couldn't have walked the distance in 10 minutes, but what is more important is the answer to the question why he would go to 10th/Patton in the first place. There is nothing there. So, not only why would he walk there, when he could have gone in far more plausible directions, but also why would he even run to get there?

Just how many people do you know run to a go-nowhere destination for no apparant reason?

Huh?  We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.  Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest.  Whatever plan he had was disrupted within a few minutes after leaving his boardinghouse.  Only Oswald would know where he was heading.  The Boston bomber ended up hiding in a boat in someone's backyard.  I don't think that was part of his plan.

[Charles Collins]

True, but in this instance a blanket statement with very little significance.

What physical evidence supports or agrees with Earlene Roberts' testimony?

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take. This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him. It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

[Martin Weidmann]

Huh?  We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.  Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest.  Whatever plan he had was disrupted within a few minutes after leaving his boardinghouse.  Only Oswald would know where he was heading.  The Boston bomber ended up hiding in a boat in someone's backyard.  I don't think that was part of his plan.

We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.

Do you ever think before your write something as stupid as this? If you don't know what Oswald's intended destination was, you also do not know that it wasn't 10th/Patton!

Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest. 

Was he? By running (because walking wouldn't have gotten him there on time to kill Tippit) to a go-nowhere residential location as 10th/Patton where he would stand out like a sore thumb, when he had ample opportunities to get out of town fast on public transport. That makes sense to you?

Only Oswald would know where he was heading.

True, so why do you claim to know that his destination wasn't 10th/Patton?

[Martin Weidmann]

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take. This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him. It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take.

And what physical evidence would that be?

This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him

She only saw him at the roominghouse and outside of it, waiting at a bus stop, so no, it does not agree with Robert's statements. All Roberts could say is that she thought Oswald was in a hurry when he entered the roominghouse... That's all!

It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

Of course you do, because, just like the WC, you try to shape the evidence to fit your preconceived narrative, rather than looking at all the evidence honestly.

Roberts saw Oswald standing at the bus stop, she did not see him running anywhere!

[Charles Collins]

The physical evidence appears to indicate that LHO traveled from the rooming house to 10th and Patton in slightly less time than a casual walk would take.

And what physical evidence would that be?

This agrees with Roberts’ statements to Aynesworth and later testimony that he was either running or very close to running when she saw him

She only saw him at the roominghouse and outside of it, waiting at a bus stop, so no, it does not agree with Robert's statements. All Roberts could say is that she thought Oswald was in a hurry when he entered the roominghouse... That's all!

It doesn’t agree with her later testimony that he was waiting at the bus stop. Therefore, I have doubts about that.

Of course you do, because, just like the WC, you try to shape the evidence to fit your preconceived narrative, rather than looking at all the evidence honestly.

Roberts saw Oswald standing at the bus stop, she did not see him running anywhere!

And what physical evidence would that be?


The distance between the two points. (Taking into account the reported times of day that LHO was at the two places.)



Roberts saw Oswald standing at the bus stop, she did not see him running anywhere!

And pray tell, just how would you “know” what she saw?

This is what Aynesworth says that she told him on 11/22/63 (edit: from “No More Silence” by Larry Sneed):

She told me that day that Oswald came running in while she was watching television and that she tried to talk to him about the President being killed. He didn’t want to talk, so he went in, changed his jacket and ran out. She then saw him run off the porch to the left and that was the last time that she saw him.


Now if YOU would look at ALL the evidence honestly, you would have to consider that Aynesworth’s report agrees with the physical evidence better than Roberts’ later testimony.

[John Iacoletti]

Huh?  We don't know Oswald's intended destination because he encountered Tippit.  His destination wasn't 10th/Patton.  Oswald was in flight after assassinating the president.  He was evading arrest.  Whatever plan he had was disrupted within a few minutes after leaving his boardinghouse.  Only Oswald would know where he was heading.

If you're a good enough mind reader to know that he was "in flight" and "evading arrest", then you should also know where he was going.

[Walt Cakebread]

And what physical evidence would that be?


The distance between the two points. (Taking into account the reported times of day that LHO was at the two places.)



Roberts saw Oswald standing at the bus stop, she did not see him running anywhere!

And pray tell, just how would you “know” what she saw?

This is what Aynesworth says that she told him on 11/22/63 (edit: from “No More Silence” by Larry Sneed):

She told me that day that Oswald came running in while she was watching television and that she tried to talk to him about the President being killed. He didn’t want to talk, so he went in, changed his jacket and ran out. She then saw him run off the porch to the left and that was the last time that she saw him.


Now if YOU would look at ALL the evidence honestly, you would have to consider that Aynesworth’s report agrees with the physical evidence better than Roberts’ later testimony.

The title to this thread states that Lee Oswald was at 10th and Patton       Who can prove that Lee was in fact at that location at the time that Tippit was shot?

[John Iacoletti]

This is what Aynesworth says that she told him on 11/22/63

He told Larry Sneed this about 35 years after the fact, right?  Didn't you say that "accounts given immediately after an event are often the more accurate accounts"?

Martin's right.  You are cherry-picking the accounts that support your assumption that Oswald was the one who shot Tippit.