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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2020, 08:53:31 PM »
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The reporter asked: "Do you have a lawyer?" To which Oswald replied: "No sir, I don't."

Was Oswald Mirandized properly? You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.

Miranda v Arizona was still 3 years away.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2020, 09:12:04 PM »
Miranda v Arizona was still 3 years away.

True..... There was no law that stated that a suspect must be told that he had the right to keep his mouth shut and refuse to answer any questions until he had an attorney to advise him.....  But Lee Oswald would have known that because he knew about the Rosenbergs and the Smith act.

Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2020, 01:17:45 AM »
Well obviously a plan B didn’t happen, so how would anybody know?

Doesn’t Thomas Arthur Vallee in Chicago at least give you some pause?

How do you know Plan B didn't happen? Perhaps the murder of officer Tippit was part of it, as it seems to be of a more improvised nature than the assassination.

If there was a plot to kill the President, blaming some random dude for it must have been an integral part of it, like Milteer said.

Now, selecting Oswald as the patsy was a master stroke of genius, given his treacherous background, his Russian wife, his odd behaviour and lack of social skills etc. But in order to make it work Oswald has to show up for work, preferably carrying a long bulky package, and not be in the presence of others who can provide him with an alibi at the exact time of the shooting.

That's a shaky foundation for such an elaborate scheme. Therefore it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?

I don't know who this Vallee guy was you mentioned, but I will look him up - I think he is mentioned in JFK and the Unspeakable.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2020, 01:32:10 AM »
How do you know Plan B didn't happen? Perhaps the murder of officer Tippit was part of it, as it seems to be of a more improvised nature than the assassination.

If there was a plot to kill the President, blaming some random dude for it must have been an integral part of it, like Milteer said.

Now, selecting Oswald as the patsy was a master stroke of genius, given his treacherous background, his Russian wife, his odd behaviour and lack of social skills etc. But in order to make it work Oswald has to show up for work, preferably carrying a long bulky package, and not be in the presence of others who can provide him with an alibi at the exact time of the shooting.

That's a shaky foundation for such an elaborate scheme. Therefore it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?

I don't know who this Vallee guy was you mentioned, but I will look him up - I think he is mentioned in JFK and the Unspeakable.

Dallas was not a do or die try....They had tried in Chicago and failed, .....If Dallas had failed they would have tried again.

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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2020, 02:00:42 AM »
How do you know Plan B didn't happen? Perhaps the murder of officer Tippit was part of it, as it seems to be of a more improvised nature than the assassination.

If there was a plot to kill the President, blaming some random dude for it must have been an integral part of it, like Milteer said.

Now, selecting Oswald as the patsy was a master stroke of genius, given his treacherous background, his Russian wife, his odd behaviour and lack of social skills etc. But in order to make it work Oswald has to show up for work, preferably carrying a long bulky package, and not be in the presence of others who can provide him with an alibi at the exact time of the shooting.

That's a shaky foundation for such an elaborate scheme. Therefore it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?

I don't know who this Vallee guy was you mentioned, but I will look him up - I think he is mentioned in JFK and the Unspeakable.

"it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?"

Good question. Could there also have been a back-up paper trail, connected to the 7.65 Mauser Boone and Weitzman found, to connect the reserve patsy to the 6th floor and murder of JFK?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2020, 02:34:17 AM »
"it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?"

Good question. Could there also have been a back-up paper trail, connected to the 7.65 Mauser Boone and Weitzman found, to connect the reserve patsy to the 6th floor and murder of JFK?
 

Boone and Weitzman discovered a Mannlicher Carcano.....Not a 7.65 Mauser.   Are you visually impaired?

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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2020, 10:55:29 PM »
How do you know Plan B didn't happen? Perhaps the murder of officer Tippit was part of it, as it seems to be of a more improvised nature than the assassination.

If there was a plot to kill the President, blaming some random dude for it must have been an integral part of it, like Milteer said.

Now, selecting Oswald as the patsy was a master stroke of genius, given his treacherous background, his Russian wife, his odd behaviour and lack of social skills etc. But in order to make it work Oswald has to show up for work, preferably carrying a long bulky package, and not be in the presence of others who can provide him with an alibi at the exact time of the shooting.

That's a shaky foundation for such an elaborate scheme. Therefore it seems logical and rational that a reserve patsy was on stand-by in the wings. Who was it?

I don't know who this Vallee guy was you mentioned, but I will look him up - I think he is mentioned in JFK and the Unspeakable.


selecting Oswald as the patsy was a master stroke of genius, Yes,  Hoover was a diabolical genius when necessary.....

 given his treacherous background, his Russian wife, his odd behaviour and lack of social skills

Who had been keeping tabs on Lee since he "defected to Russia" ????  That person would have known all of the above and had documents to prove it.

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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2020, 02:01:42 AM »
 

Boone and Weitzman discovered a Mannlicher Carcano.....Not a 7.65 Mauser.   Are you visually impaired?

I have affidavits and investigation reports from Boone and Weitzman saying they found a 7.65 Mauser.

You have a grainy black and white piece of film showing LT Day picking up what appears to be a Mannlicher Carcano.

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