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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2020, 11:00:56 PM »
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Never gets old.

Maybe if you spent more time studying the case and less time trying to make up "clever" one-liners, you'd know basic things like it not being "Alec".

Ah, typos: The last refuge of the desperate... not that you're anal about them.
Now try to say something important

'Alex'
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2451.msg80948.html#msg80948
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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2020, 11:17:53 PM »
Not that you're anal about typos
Now try to say something important

'Alex'

Still wrong.  Try again.

"Typos".  LOL.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2020, 11:41:20 PM »
Still wrong.  Try again.

"Typos".  LOL.

Thanks so much for yet another fine example of Bugliosi's universally-known splitting-hairs-then-splitting-the-split-hairs take on you lot.

And thanks so much for your always-useful input.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2020, 11:49:17 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2020, 11:49:40 PM »
You miss the point John... not surprisingly.

Most of the conspiracy books (and internet JFK Conspiracy pundits) posit Lee Harvey Oswald as being placed in the TSBD as an employee by conspirators. This is so he could be framed as the assassin of President Kennedy (on 22 November 1963).

Oswald being an employee due to happenstance (or coincidence if you like) fits with him being the sole shooter who assassinated President Kennedy.

Incidentally: If Oswald does not get a job at the TSBD, President Kennedy leaves Dallas alive. Don't give me that "a backup plan was in the works" nonsense. We can only deal with the historical record. Accordingly, "No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD" means that President Kennedy would have lived to complete his first term and probably would have been elected to a second term as President of the United States.

So you are a CT (coincidence theorist)? You CTs think that everything was happenstance to support your LNer position. Who owned the TSBD? Why was the motorcade rerouted down Elm? How do you know Paine wasn't one of Oswald's handlers? Why didn't Oswald take a shot when JFK's limo curbed out and stopped right in front of the TSBD 60 feet from the 6th floor window? Oswald couldn't have missed even with a wonky scope. Why did Oswald get the job only 3 weeks before the Big Event, after the failure of Plan A in Chicago? Did you know about Plan A in Chicago with Oswald's doppelganger, Thomas Arthur Vallee? Oswald was Plan B, which was only in effect if Plan A failed, which it did.

How many coincidences trump a hearsay conversation between Randle and Oswald's handler, Paine? It was Paine who called Superintendent Roy Truly to ask about work for Oswald. Getting the patsy a job in the ideal building was to be accomplished as discreetly as possible. Paine knew enough not to blow her cover. And what do you know about Randle? Your problem is you believe a single tale by possible conspirators proves your case and you ignore everything else and chalk them up to coincidence, just like the conspirators banked on. I'm sure if any are still alive they'd thank you for your patronage. Like most, I believe this was a conspiracy so I consider "no coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald" to be a non-sequitur. Way too many coincidences for my liking.

Timeline
Kennedy's upcoming trip to Dallas was first announced to the public in September 1963
Oswald applied for the TSBD job October 15th 1963
The motorcade route was finalized November 18th, which included a funky turn onto Elm

How convenient for Lucky Lee that the planets aligned for him to get the perfect job, at just the right time, in the perfect building to assassinate the POTUS. Next you'll be telling me that Drumpf made a "Perfect Call" to Ukraine.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2020, 01:18:32 AM by Jack Trojan »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2020, 11:58:46 PM »
Thanks so much for yet another fine example of Bugliosi's universally-known splitting-hairs-then-splitting-the-split-hairs take on you lot.

That was Vince's excuse for why it should be ok to spread misinformation.

But at least he, unlike you, had a basic knowledge of the case before spouting off.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2020, 12:00:10 AM »
Tell that to Ross. He thinks that anything that's not specifically planned in advance cannot happen at all.

anything that's not specifically planned in advance cannot happen at all.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2020, 01:44:59 AM »
That was Vince's excuse for why it should be ok to spread misinformation.

But at least he, unlike you, had a basic knowledge of the case before spouting off.

'excuse'
> You just made two

'basic knowledge'
> A nobody shot a somebody in Dealey Plaza on 11.22.63 12:30pm-ish
   The only thing that you lot got right, according to a another somebody

'spouting off'
> That was 'the little engine that could'
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2444.msg80740.html#msg80740
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2020, 01:52:10 AM »
'Just wondering'

Wonder no longer: Oswald rode with Buell a number of times previously. Even so, that doesn't necessarily mean he would know the lock was broken. Well, big deal: If the car was locked, do something else.

Dude, improvise.

Well was it normally unlocked or the lock broken? I can’t remember which was the final story. Can you?

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Re: No coffee for Randle, no job for Oswald -- at the TSBD
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