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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #96 on: April 28, 2020, 07:05:50 PM »
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I don't think the Z-film was altered other than possibly removing frames.

I think what happened at Z-313 is hard to understand because of all the misinformation from the autopsy and the WC.

If we knew where the shots were coming from and when I suspect Z_313 would make a lot more sense than it does.
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Clint Hill has said many times that he saw a small bullet hole in the hair line just forward of JFK's right ear ( the exact spot where the "explosion" is shown at Z 313.)

If that explosion had occurred at that spot, Hill could not have see a small bullet hole there. (Because there would have been a huge hole there)   Hill pointed to his right temple and said that he had seen a bullet hole there and the back of JFK's head was gone....

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« Reply #97 on: April 28, 2020, 07:28:13 PM »
Clint Hill has said many times that he saw a small bullet hole in the hair line just forward of JFK's right ear ( the exact spot where the "explosion" is shown at Z 313.)

If that explosion had occurred at that spot, Hill could not have see a small bullet hole there. (Because there would have been a huge hole there)   Hill pointed to his right temple and said that he had seen a bullet hole there and the back of JFK's head was gone....

Kellerman testified there was a volley of shots that came into the car all at once after the first report.  I think some things might be explained by more than one bullet striking JFK's skull.
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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #98 on: April 28, 2020, 08:09:27 PM »
I don't think the Z-film was altered other than possibly removing frames.

I think what happened at Z-313 is hard to understand because of all the misinformation from the autopsy and the WC.

If we knew where the shots were coming from and when I suspect Z_313 would make a lot more sense than it does.
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   Possible "removed frames" does Not explain NO ONE at Parkland Hospital seeing the Massive Hole/Flap in the (R) Temple area. The ONLY Explanation for Not 1 Single Dr or 1 Single Nurse seeing the Massive Wound and/or blood trickling from it onto the hair of JFK is that the Wound DID NOT EXIST!
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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #99 on: April 28, 2020, 09:37:13 PM »
   Possible "removed frames" does Not explain NO ONE at Parkland Hospital seeing the Massive Hole/Flap in the (R) Temple area. The ONLY Explanation for Not 1 Single Dr or 1 Single Nurse seeing the Massive Wound and/or blood trickling from it onto the hair of JFK is that the Wound DID NOT EXIST!

His skull was completely shattered. It's estimated 1/3 was blown away. In some places the scalp was intact with pieces of the skull adhering. I would imagine what we see in the few seconds after Z-313 is completely different than what arrived at Parkland.  I don't think those differences are sinister. IMO

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #100 on: April 28, 2020, 09:55:31 PM »
From the thread: What if James Files shot JFK, like he said?

You don't have to buy into Files being the grassy knoll shooter, but the "right temple blowout" is pertinent to this thread.


Quote from: Jerry Freeman on March 11, 2020, 11:38:43 PM
Mike Orr actually stated that a shot to the back of the head happened first....And I agree. If the autopsy photos are legit [showing a hole just a bit left of center] and the Zapruder image seems to show it forward/back in an blink.

If the autopsy photo was real then it would show a fist-sized gaping hole in the right occipital region of JFK's head. But we don't see that. Instead it shows what they want you to see, which is 1 shot from behind and no hole in the back of his head. I have no idea how they faked the photos, but it was easy enough to do back then. And before they were faking photos they were performing post-mortem surgery.



There may have been a simultaneous shot from behind but I doubt that it struck JFK's head without pushing it forward significantly, unless its forward momentum was counteracted by a shot from the front. However, IMO, there was too much backward motion for that to be the case.



 I count 2 near simultaneous shots at appox. Z-312, the first one from the direction of the overpass that entered the right side of JFK's hairline and blew a hole out of the back of his head. This sent his head violently backward.



Files recalls that his shot from the knoll happened a split second after the frontal shot and he claimed to have used a Fireball hand-rifle which shot frangible bullets. His shot caused the right temple to blowout when the bullet exploded in JFK's head.



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Consensus was that the driver did hit the brakes...but I would have too if I thought I was driving into an ambush.

No you wouldn't. At least 2 shots had been fired and you knew you were already under attack. Nobody in their right mind would slow the limo to a near stop, turn to look back at JFK and watch him get his head blown off and only then decide to skedaddle outta Dodge. The Turkey Shoot Point was precisely where Greer slowed the limo down to. It was designed to be orthogonal to Files' position at the knoll. There was even a painted marking on the curb across Elm at the exact TSP, which Greer coincidentally nearly stopped at. Greer must have skimmed over the SS manual re what to do when the POTUS is under attack.

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I also think Umbrella Man and the "Cuban" next to him were signal guys and would like to what Files said about them [if anything]...Not that I completely believe Files either.

Umbrella man and Co. were definitely signalling that JFK was still alive and the Turkey Shoot was on. And sure Files could be BSing, but he seems to know some interesting details about the shooting. Maybe he's stolen the real shooter's story, who knows? But he is by far the best candidate for the knoll shooter, if you believe there was one.

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #101 on: April 28, 2020, 10:02:54 PM »
A simple matter of a "Bullet Right Through the Brain".






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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2020, 10:04:09 PM »
His skull was completely shattered. It's estimated 1/3 was blown away. In some places the scalp was intact with pieces of the skull adhering. I would imagine what we see in the few seconds after Z-313 is completely different than what arrived at Parkland.  I don't think those differences are sinister. IMO

   Based on the Autopsy Photos, JFK had a Hole/Flap in the (R) Temple Region roughly the size of your fist. How could ALL of these Parkland Hospital Dr's and Nurses miss seeing this large wound or the blood/matter that we saw coming out of it on the Z Film and dripping into/soaking his hair? This Large (R) Temple wound would Not have been missed by ALL of these Parkland Hospital Dr's and Nurses.

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2020, 10:47:57 PM »
A simple matter of a "Bullet Right Through the Brain".









The red arrow is drawn too high.....  The red dot that is visible in some colored photos is a couple of inches lower and right at the hairline forward of JFK's ear.

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2020, 10:47:57 PM »