Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read

[Jerry Organ]

It sometimes helps to do the math.

Yes, it can help but not always. Go by what you can see in the film and watch the timing of it. The women witnesses said they yelled "over here" and he suddenly looks that way and waves to them. No shots yet. He goes behind the sign, reappears and the shots start just at that point.

The ladies were very constrained. They resisted trying to get the President's attention prior to here:



And waited until the last second:



And even then there's no hands in the air waving trying to get his attention.

I suppose anything is possible. They waited until the last second and only yelled, hoping they would be heard over the motorcycle acceleration.

I think he looked their way prior to the Zapruder film beginning at Z133. And that they tried to get his attention as early as when the limousine straightened out on Elm. Probably he didn't hear them and coincidentally looked their way. In their mind, their yelling caught his attention.

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One of the ladies, Mary Woodward, said the first shot missed and that the Kennedys reacted to the sound of the shot by looking around (this could possibly be the rightward head turns of the Kennedys in the Z160s-Z170s). The Connallys said they also made rightward head turns in reaction to the shot, also seen occurring in the Z160s-Z170s. Nothing concrete there; just something to think about.

[John Iacoletti]

IMO, the entire row of people on the north side of Elm street are unusually still.

[Jerry Organ]

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/bugliosi-vincent-reclaiming-history-thompson
Vincent Bugliosi, Reclaiming History
Written by Josiah Thompson
Epic book resurrects finding that Oswald acted alone in killing JFK
Bugliosi picks only the evidence that backs his argument

~snip~

"Even more egregious is his handling of the trajectory through JFK's back and neck. A face-sheet on which notes were taken during the autopsy shows the supposed exit wound in the throat to be higher than the entry wound in the back.

When the autopsy photos were finally produced in the 1970s, a medical panel concluded that the course of the bullet through Kennedy was at an upward angle (the accepted number is 11 degrees). So how does Kennedy get shot from the sixth floor of a building when the bullet takes an upward path through his body?

The Warren Commission took the simplest course. The staff let the autopsy doctor instruct a medical illustrator to raise the back wound from the back to the neck. Commission member U.S. Rep. Gerald Ford then corrected a final draft of the panel's report to read "neck wound" rather than "back wound." Voila, a "back wound" had become a "neck wound."

Faced with that 11 degree upward angle, the House Select Committee on Assassinations took a more inventive approach in its 1978-79 investigation. It just leaned Kennedy forward at the time he was shot.
And Connally, who took a shot at a 27-degree downward angle? His body position was leaned back a sufficient amount. Voila, an 11-degree upward angle through one body had become a 27-degree downward angle through a second body, thus a straight line had been maintained."

~snip~

What misrepresentations. Ford merely changed the "below the shoulder" description (what does that mean? Below the shoulder line? Below the shoulder muscle mass?) to the base of the back of the neck description in the autopsy report. Ford was making things MORE accurate.

Clyde Snow developed the confusing theory that the wound track was upward in an anatomical-position model. Adjustments based on the films and photos were then made to determine the body position at the time of the wounding. The missile track then went downwards from the back to the front.

Critics like to content the "upward" trajectory occurred at the time of the wounding. But that's not what Snow was arguing. Read HSCA Volume VI, beginning page 43 ( Link ).

[Walt Cakebread]

Here he explains how he made a mistake years ago:


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Maybe your couple of points that you want to discuss are addressed in that video.

Charlie.....I'm having trouble playing the video .....  It stops at various points and won't restart.... I'd really like to see the entire video..... Is anybody else experiencing problems?

[Charles Collins]

IMO, the entire row of people on the north side of Elm street are unusually still.

Interesting observation, I think that could be due to an earlier missed shot that they heard and were mentally trying to figure out...

[Charles Collins]

Charlie.....I'm having trouble playing the video .....  It stops at various points and won't restart.... I'd really like to see the entire video..... Is anybody else experiencing problems?

It played fine for me yesterday. I do have a fast internet connection though. I’ll try again and if it is acting up for me now I’ll let you know. Otherwise, I will not respond.

[Gary Craig]

What misrepresentations. Ford merely changed the "below the shoulder" description (what does that mean? Below the shoulder line? Below the shoulder muscle mass?) to the base of the back of the neck description in the autopsy report. Ford was making things MORE accurate.

Clyde Snow developed the confusing theory that the wound track was upward in an anatomical-position model. Adjustments based on the films and photos were then made to determine the body position at the time of the wounding. The missile track then went downwards from the back to the front.

Critics like to content the "upward" trajectory occurred at the time of the wounding. But that's not what Snow was arguing. Read HSCA Volume VI, beginning page 43 ( Link ).

BS.

Can you point to the Z-frame when he was hit in the back of the neck?

Cyril Wecht pointed out during the HSCA proceedings:
Unless JFK bent over to tie his shoes when he went behind the Stemmons sign and got shot in that position, then straightened back up before emerging, the wound in his back is on a upward trajectory.

Even the WC commission new the back wound was lower than the throat wound.

[Walt Cakebread]

BS.

Can you point to the Z-frame when he was hit in the back of the neck?

Cyril Wecht pointed out during the HSCA proceedings:
Unless JFK bent over to tie his shoes when he went behind the Stemmons sign and got shot in that position, then straightened back up before emerging, the wound in his back is on a upward trajectory.

Even the WC commission new the back wound was lower than the throat wound.

The back wound was moved up from "below the shoulder blade to the right of the spine " to the neck by Gerald R Ford.....An "EX" FBI agent who was a spy for J.E Hoover on the warren Commission....  Ford was rewarded for his derailing of the investigation by free room and board in our White house....