This is how the rifle was gotten into the building

[Martin Weidmann]

It's really good of you to acknowledge that engaging you isn't a worthwhile pursuit.

That's not a totally accurate interpretation of the meaning I meant to convey.

I welcome comments: Just not silly generalizations.

That's not a totally accurate interpretation of the meaning I meant to convey.

Then you should have written it differently, because as it is written now that is exactly the meaning you are conveying.

And btw, by, rather arrogantly stating in advance what you will "welcome" and what not, only confirms that it's not worthwhile to engage you. That being said, I admit that I am now officially wasting my time, talking to you. It's a feeling I have come to know very well over the past couple of months.

[Thomas Graves]

A patsy usually isn't completely innocent, just not as portrayed by the conspirators. IOWs, not a lone nut assassin. It was imperative that he was portrayed as a lone nut so the Rooskies wouldn't be accused of starting WWIII, which is why your KGB hypothesis is bunk.

Yes, it was imperative that he be portrayed as a lone nut (which he was), and to not disclose anything that might be construed (correctly) as suggesting that he had been sent back to the U.S. (with a probable KGB-agent wife, according to true-defector Pyotr Deryabin) on a mission to assassinate JFK, and that he had "gone rogue" when Khrushchev tried to call it off.

--  MWT 

[Jack Trojan]

Yes, it was imperative that he be portrayed as a lone nut (which he was), and to not disclose anything that might be construed (correctly) as suggesting that he had been sent back to the U.S. (with a probable KGB-agent wife, according to true-defector Pyotr Deryabin) on a mission to assassinate JFK, and that he had "gone rogue" when Khrushchev tried to call it off.

--  MWT 

LOL, so you are a CT then (Coincidence Theorist).

And it was just dumb luck that Oswald landed a job in a building along the motorcade route, plus a dozen other "coincidences" that served up JFK on a silver platter to a lone nut. Was Thomas Arthur Vallee a KGB double agent too?

So how many backyard photos did his KGB wife Marina take and why did some of them wind up in the darndest places? Did Khrushchev get one?

You have to be pretty single-minded to think that the KGB could have contrived all the coincidences that led up to the Big Event, but you are like a dog with a bone. In for a penny, I suppose.

[Thomas Graves]

LOL, so you are a CT then (Coincidence Theorist).

And it was just dumb luck that Oswald landed a job in a building along the motorcade route, plus a dozen other "coincidences" that served up JFK on a silver platter to a lone nut. Was Thomas Arthur Vallee a KGB double agent too?

So how many backyard photos did his KGB wife Marina take and why did some of them wind up in the darndest places? Did Khrushchev get one?

You have to be pretty single-minded to think that the KGB could have contrived all the coincidences that led up to the Big Event, but you are like a dog with a bone. In for a penny, I suppose.

Yep, there was lots of dumb luck for Conspiracy Theorists in this case, unfortunately.

Like the very hard, very stable-in-flight, round-nosed, full-metal-jacketed bullet's tendency to start yawing just before it exits a human neck (or block of ballistics gel) even though it has not struck too much, if any, bone, and that if it enters another person's back going sideways right after that while travelling at a now-diminished but still high velocity, that that round-nosed, full metal jacket bullet can swipe that person's rib with sufficient force to smash it (and their wrist!) into pieces without causing the bullet to severely deform or fragment, and without losing more than 2.1 grains of lead core, squeezed out its base.

Oh, and the oh-so-graphic "back-and-to-the-left torso throw and head snap!" that was caused by all of JFK's neurons firing at once, by his tight and rigid back corset, and by something Issac Newton explained back-in-the-day.

Talk about good luck!

An anti-Establishment paranoid's wet dream!

--  MWT 

[Thomas Graves]

Jack Trojan asked incredulously and rhetorically:

"You mean CE-399 [is plausible evidence?], [although it] didn't have a straight line path from the SN into JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae and out his throat at C7, then thru Connally causing 7 wounds and smashing thru bones and dropping out of Connally onto the wrong stretcher in "pristine" condition, while the other FMJ bullet disintegrated as it exploded in JFK's head?"
.

Larry Sturtevant and his colleagues answer all of your above questions in the full PBS Nova special "Cold Case: JFK," and the National Geographic special "The Lost Bullet".

Here he talks about the fatal headshot, and why that bullet fragmented, and indirectly caused JFKs upper torso and head to go back and to the left, etc. etc.

--  MWT 

[Jack Trojan]

Jack Trojan asked incredulously and rhetorically:

"You mean CE-399 [is plausible evidence?], [although it] didn't have a straight line path from the SN into JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae and out his throat at C7, then thru Connally causing 7 wounds and smashing thru bones and dropping out of Connally onto the wrong stretcher in "pristine" condition, while the other FMJ bullet disintegrated as it exploded in JFK's head?"
.

Larry Sturtevant and his colleagues answer all of your above questions in the full PBS Nova special "Cold Case: JFK," and the National Geographic special "The Lost Bullet".

Here he talks about the fatal headshot, and why that bullet fragmented, and indirectly caused JFKs upper torso and head to go back and to the left, etc. etc.

--  MWT 

"Cold case: JFK" is horsespombleprofglidnoctobuns. If the MB trajectory was angled downward @ 17 degrees and entered JFK's back at T1, it does not come out of a small wound in the throat at C7 unless it struck JFK's spine and deflected its trajectory upward approx. 20 degrees. And if it did, it would not enter Connally at the 5th rib. It would also not exit a small hole and it would sustain damage like it should have when it broke Connally's rib and wrist bones. There is no goddamned way CE-399 would look pristine unless it was shot into a swimming pool, which would explain why it had no DNA on it from either JFK or Connally. Nova and NG didn't explore any of these aspects, they were clutching at straws trying to make the MB work. Their head shot simulation also didn't explain why the FMJ bullet exploded in JFK's head and caused the catastrophic damage as shown in frame 323 below:



"Back and to the left" from the "jet effect" or "firing neurons" my arse. What a load.

[Thomas Graves]

"Cold case: JFK" is horsespombleprofglidnoctobuns. If the MB trajectory was angled downward @ 17 degrees and entered JFK's back at T1, it does not come out of a small wound in the throat at C7 unless it struck JFK's spine and deflected its trajectory upward approx. 20 degrees. And if it did, it would not enter Connally at the 5th rib. It would also not exit a small hole and it would sustain damage like it should have when it broke Connally's rib and wrist bones. There is no goddamned way CE-399 would look pristine unless it was shot into a swimming pool, which would explain why it had no DNA on it from either JFK or Connally. Nova and NG didn't explore any of these aspects, they were clutching at straws trying to make the MB work. Their head shot simulation also didn't explain why the FMJ bullet exploded in JFK's head and caused the catastrophic damage as shown in frame 323 below:



"Back and to the left" from the "jet effect" or "firing neurons" my arse. What a load.

I guess you missed the part about that kind of bullet's beginning to yaw before it exits something relatively soft, like JFK's neck or a block of ballistics gel (which explains why it created a diagonal hole in Connally's shirt and back and did so much damage to his rib), and a separate report indicating that, according to an x-ray taken at Bethesda, it did apparently nick the tip of one of JFK's vertebrae, causing him to raise his arms involuntarily the way he did, and perhaps deflecting the bullet even more.

Larry Sturtevant explained very clearly that the Z-313 bullet fragmented into large pieces when it struck JFK's SKULL.

Funny how you can be so spot-on on Trump-related stuff, and so "out in left field" on JFK assassination-related stuff.

--  MWT 

[Jack Trojan]

Another ca-ca post by Jack T.

I guess you missed the part about that kind of bullet's beginning to yaw before it exits something relatively soft, like JFK's neck or a block of ballistics gel, and a separate report that according to  x-ray, it did apparently nick the tip of one of his vertebrae.

Nice try again. If the bullet began to yaw as it passed thru JFK's neck then why did it leave an "entrance-like" exit wound, sucka? No YAW before exiting JFK's neck. Slight yaw AFTER exiting JFK's neck from the density change in mediums (flesh->air) causing uneven drag and yaw on its way into Connally.  Except if it entered JFK's back at T1 and deflected upward and out with no yaw at C7, then it would not have even struck Connally. You need to cite a photogrammetric trajectory analysis that supports your claims that the MB could do what it did. Your 2 documentaries must have forgot to include that part.

Larry Sturtevant explained very clearly that the Z-313 bullet fragmented into large pieces when it struck JFK's skull.

How the hell does he know that and why didn't CE-399 fragment after striking 3 bones? Sorry, but Larry is full of horsespombleprofglidnoctobuns. D'oh!