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Cowlick Vs Occipital Protuberance
« on: June 03, 2020, 06:21:18 PM »
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The HSCA said the entrance wound to JFKs head was in the cowlick area (which is the area where the hair parts at the back top of your head). However, Humes, Boswell and Finck told them they were misreading the autopsy x-rays and photos and the entrance wound was actually 4 inches lower in an area slightly to the right and above the Occipital Protuberance (which is the bony area at the base of your skull on the back).

In the attached drawing, i've drawn the angle at 17.5 degrees (which is what Dale Myers said the angle coming down was, i dont know what the HSCA said it was). On the drawing, the exit wound we see on frame Z313 seems to match more closely with what Humes, Boswell and Finck were saying about the entrance wound being low in the base of the skull.

Finck said the actual entry wound (as per the autopsy photo of the back of JFKs head) was near a white colored blob near the hairline as opposed to the darkened oval shape visible in the cowlick area. (see Reclaiming History pages 395 to 396 for where Humes, Boswell and Finck contradict the HSCA about the location of the entry wound on the head)




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Offline Joe Elliott

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 07:21:19 PM »

Larry Sturdivan, a ballistic expert, in his book “The JFK Myths”, believed the Occipital Protuberance area made more sense.

What people forget is that we don’t have three points to line up:

1.   TSBD sniper’s nest.
2.   JFK’s entrance wound on the head.
3.   JFK’s exit wound on the head.

There is a fourth point:

4.   The frame of the windshield, roughly, because of a bullet fragment hit up high on the windshield, a second fragment hit even higher on the windshield frame itself, and a third, evidently, higher still that cleared both the windshield and its frame, likely striking James Tague.

These four points do not line up. The explanation is simple. Real world Ballistic observe bullet fragments following curved paths through ballistic gel, not straight lines. And they general follow a simple curve, not curing downward at one instant and then upward. They tend to follow a consistent curve. Once they start travelling through the air, they follow a much straighter line. Although they will curve some over a distance of 100 yards.

The near ‘Occipital Protuberance’ or EOP entrance makes sense. It strikes the back on the skull and starts to fragment. It curves in a random direction, which happens to be upwards. But the time it exits the skull, there are at least 3 major fragments, following slightly divergent paths. Which results in the windshield strikes and clearance.

The cowlick entrance does not make as much sense. The bullet would have to curve downward, then abruptly change direction and curve upward to exit the skull to result in the windshield strikes. And this would be true if fired from the TSBD sniper’s nest, or any other position not above the nearby building’s roofline.

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Re: Cowlick Vs Occipital Protuberance
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 09:45:53 PM »
Both. Three shots. Three hits.

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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 10:51:13 PM »

I forget to point out that not only do the following four points do not line up:

1.   TSBD sniper’s nest.
2.   JFK’s entrance wound on the head.
3.   JFK’s exit wound on the head.
4.   The frame of the windshield, roughly, because of a bullet fragment hit up high on the windshield, a second fragment hit even higher on the windshield frame itself, and a third, evidently, higher still that cleared both the windshield and its frame, likely striking James Tague.

but the first three points do not line up as well. This is to be expected since the fragmenting bullet would follow a curve line path through the brain. So, it is no good to get an estimate of location of the entrance wound by choosing a point that is on the line from the TSBD sniper’s nest to the exit wound.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 10:56:36 PM »
Larry Sturdivan, a ballistic expert, in his book “The JFK Myths”, believed the Occipital Protuberance area made more sense.

What people forget is that we don’t have three points to line up:

1.   TSBD sniper’s nest.
2.   JFK’s entrance wound on the head.
3.   JFK’s exit wound on the head.

There is a fourth point:

4.   The frame of the windshield, roughly, because of a bullet fragment hit up high on the windshield, a second fragment hit even higher on the windshield frame itself, and a third, evidently, higher still that cleared both the windshield and its frame, likely striking James Tague.

These four points do not line up. The explanation is simple. Real world Ballistic observe bullet fragments following curved paths through ballistic gel, not straight lines. And they general follow a simple curve, not curing downward at one instant and then upward. They tend to follow a consistent curve. Once they start travelling through the air, they follow a much straighter line. Although they will curve some over a distance of 100 yards.

The near ‘Occipital Protuberance’ or EOP entrance makes sense. It strikes the back on the skull and starts to fragment. It curves in a random direction, which happens to be upwards. But the time it exits the skull, there are at least 3 major fragments, following slightly divergent paths. Which results in the windshield strikes and clearance.

The cowlick entrance does not make as much sense. The bullet would have to curve downward, then abruptly change direction and curve upward to exit the skull to result in the windshield strikes. And this would be true if fired from the TSBD sniper’s nest, or any other position not above the nearby building’s roofline.

Nope,

The chip of concrete that wounded James Tague most likely was sent flying by the jacket-less bullet that struck the curb near him as a result of Oswald's missed shot -- the shot he fired about 1.4 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, which bullet lost its copper jacket when it glanced the traffic light's cross arm, thereby explaining how the metallic smear left behind on the curb had no trace of copper in it.

--  MWT  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 11:52:26 PM »
Might want to check Robert West's survey work.
Plots out the three hits.

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Re: Cowlick Vs Occipital Protuberance
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2020, 01:37:26 AM »
The HSCA said the entrance wound to JFKs head was in the cowlick area (which is the area where the hair parts at the back top of your head). However, Humes, Boswell and Finck told them they were misreading the autopsy x-rays and photos and the entrance wound was actually 4 inches lower in an area slightly to the right and above the Occipital Protuberance (which is the bony area at the base of your skull on the back).

In the attached drawing, i've drawn the angle at 17.5 degrees (which is what Dale Myers said the angle coming down was, i dont know what the HSCA said it was). On the drawing, the exit wound we see on frame Z313 seems to match more closely with what Humes, Boswell and Finck were saying about the entrance wound being low in the base of the skull.

Finck said the actual entry wound (as per the autopsy photo of the back of JFKs head) was near a white colored blob near the hairline as opposed to the darkened oval shape visible in the cowlick area. (see Reclaiming History pages 395 to 396 for where Humes, Boswell and Finck contradict the HSCA about the location of the entry wound on the head)





It was the Clark Panel that moved the entrance from the EOP to the cowlick. All the subsequent government investigations have

agreed with the cowlick entrance.

The autopsy doctors held JFK's skull in their hands with the scalp refracted and the brain removed. They requested photographs be made of

the outside and the inside of the wound. After they reexamined the autopsy materials in 1967 Dr. Finck wrote an after action report noting

those photographs were not  in the archive. All three doctors stood by their EOP entrance wound conclusion to the grave.





The Clark Panel based their cowlick entrance on the x-ray below that shows a trail of metal particles across the top of the skull.

Seems the autopsy doctors found one wound and the Clark Panel found another higher up on JFK's skull.

The doctors inexperience doing gunshot wound autopsies may account for the error. After all they missed the wound in front the throat.

The Logical conclusion IMO is at least two separate bullets hit JFK in the head.


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Re: Cowlick Vs Occipital Protuberance
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2020, 01:48:02 AM »
It was the Clark Panel that moved the entrance from the EOP to the cowlick. All the subsequent government investigations have

agreed with the cowlick entrance.

The autopsy doctors held JFK's skull in their hands with the scalp refracted and the brain removed. They requested photographs be made of

the outside and the inside of the wound. After they reexamined the autopsy materials in 1967 Dr. Finck wrote an after action report noting

those photographs were not  in the archive. All three doctors stood by their EOP entrance wound conclusion to the grave.





The Clark Panel based their cowlick entrance on the x-ray below that shows a trail of metal particles across the top of the skull.

Seems the autopsy doctors found one wound and the Clark Panel found another higher up on JFK's skull.

The doctors inexperience doing gunshot wound autopsies may account for the error. After all they missed the wound in front the throat.

The Logical conclusion IMO is at least two separate bullets hit JFK in the head.


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Two in the head. One in the back.
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