Orville Nix Film - Appearances in Media

[Robert Reeves]

Well, seems the answer was nearly right under my nose: https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=7&page=49  The JPEG filenames indicate the source: VTS_04_2_VOB_snapshot_15_24_[2018_10_31_23_22_43] - Just need to find out what DVD that is as the JPEGs add another layer of compression and image degradation.  If I can't find that out, at least I can go through and save the frames one-by-one - but that will be incredibly tedious.

What do you hope to find?? just curious 

[Scott Johndrow]

What do you hope to find?? just curious

Honestly don’t think I’ll find anything - though I’m always interested in the “black dog man” which I think is just the young couple that was described by Zapruder’s secretary.  If only we still had the original negative.

I primarily hope to just add to the knowledge of this film.  The more recent appearance in The Lost Bullet was just sad.  They used an extremely blurry print and glossed over how important the film is.

[Sim Heninger]

Scott, I have a videocassette called "Kennedy Assassination Film Chronology" which might be what you're looking for.  I got it through the mail some time between 1985 and 1990, I would guess.  Groden actually narrates part of the thing, a discussion of the movement between the concrete wall on the knoll, in extreme closeup of Nix's film.  This pertains to Black Dog Man/Sitzman's couple.  I just now looked at it for the first time in....decades?  It starts with DCA motorcade stuff, then the various films starting at Main and Houston (like Nix) are cut together to form a pretty bad continuity.  The Nix stuff is there, but incomplete.  Paschall film, notably, is on the tape.  I quit watching at that point, but it really trails off into a lot of stuff I didn't have time to watch the first time I put it in a VCR, let alone now.  Email me if you're interested.

BTW, the black man standing with Emmett Hudson catches the light through the trees a couple of times, as he runs up the stairs, if you look closely at a really clear version of the Nix headshot sequence.  Happens same exact moment as the movement just above the wall.

Happy researches,
Sim

[Royell Storing]

Scott, I have a videocassette called "Kennedy Assassination Film Chronology" which might be what you're looking for.  I got it through the mail some time between 1985 and 1990, I would guess.  Groden actually narrates part of the thing, a discussion of the movement between the concrete wall on the knoll, in extreme closeup of Nix's film.  This pertains to Black Dog Man/Sitzman's couple.  I just now looked at it for the first time in....decades?  It starts with DCA motorcade stuff, then the various films starting at Main and Houston (like Nix) are cut together to form a pretty bad continuity.  The Nix stuff is there, but incomplete.  Paschall film, notably, is on the tape.  I quit watching at that point, but it really trails off into a lot of stuff I didn't have time to watch the first time I put it in a VCR, let alone now.  Email me if you're interested.

BTW, the black man standing with Emmett Hudson catches the light through the trees a couple of times, as he runs up the stairs, if you look closely at a really clear version of the Nix headshot sequence.  Happens same exact moment as the movement just above the wall.

Happy researches,
Sim

    The Black Dog Man appears to be positioned: (1) at the point where the wall running N-S meets the wall running E-W, or (2) somewhere along that E-W portion of the wall. That Bench was positioned BACK from the E-W Wall/Toward the pergola shelter. It would be interesting to see if the upper torso of someone seated on a bench would be sitting High enough to be captured on Any of the Assassination Films. Nix does Not show the upper torso/head of anyone possibly seated on that bench. Sitzman is the Only Person to Ever claim they saw a couple seated on that bench at the time of the assassination. 

[Scott Johndrow]

Hello Royell - I suppose the examination of the negative by the HSCA may have revealed something regarding the bench.  I've read a little of their examination but don't recall if that was discussed.

-Side note:  I want to make sure I have all the footage of the Nix film from Oliver Stone's JFK.  I've only found one instance of it used in the film - about 16 frames during the courtroom assassination sequence.  Anyone recall if there was more? - To my shock, it's just a video to 35mm transfer - shows all the tell-tale signs of a video source.

[Markus Ell]

Hello Scott Johndrow.

I uploaded the Nix film sequence from the Oliver Stone film as well as the almost complete courtroom scene to YouTube for safety's sake.
Here the links

for the (almost) complete courtroom scene (maybe YouTube has blocked the video for legal reasons):

for the nix sequence:

Sorry for the bad Quality. Not sure if the Oliver film is cut.

Hope it may help.

[Robin Unger]

From memory the Nix frames came from the "JFK Death In Dealey Plaza" DVD

[Howard Kosrofian]

Sure looks like a possible shooter to me on that wall.   Either shooting a photo or a weapon.