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[Joffrey van de Wiel]

Hi Michael,

Glad you found the video interesting. I had no time to post additional comments as it was already late at night, so here are a few:

- what pleased me was the incredible clear footage of the motorcade - I'd almost only seen grainy movies until now. And I also appreciated President Kennedy's sense of humour: "Nobody wonders what Lyndon and I wear." "I am the man accompanying Mrs. Kennedy to Texas." LOL 

- Howard Brennan comes on and says the assassin "was in no great rush" and "paused for a moment" after firing the third shot. Do you think Oswald had time to do that? I am under the impression that Oswald was in a great rush in order to make it on time to the second floor lunchroom for his meeting with Roy Truly and officer Baker.

- Governor Connally is adamant about being hit by the second bullet. He didn't hear this shot. Which means either the first shot missed and the second shot produced the Magic Bullet, or the President and Governor were hit by separate bullets fired so closely together that multiple assassins had to be involved, right?

- What do you think of Dr. Posner's psycho-analyses of Oswald which starts about the 32:00 minute mark? That Oswald was bullied in school and in the Marines, was a loser with a lot of resentment and in order to make a name for himself assassinated the President?

- Do you think Vice President Johnson was involved? The documentary is partly devoted to this theory and shows Mr. Stone promoting this.

[Tim Nickerson]

Have you checked if those VC and serial numbers are actually in the master control book?

Mr. BELIN. Do you have any master control ledger or book of any kind that has these control numbers on them?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes. One copy is sent to what we call the booking department, and those are put into a master book, control book.
Mr. BELIN. Are you required by law to keep records of serial numbers of guns?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes.

I have not. Why do you want to know?

[Tim Nickerson]

Just wanted to make sure, as predicted, you couldn't deal with the Waldman 4 fantasy numbers.

Like Mytton and Von P.

The Nutters always chicken out on Waldman 4, love it.

Chicken out on Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

[Tim Nickerson]

No, your bluff will not work.

The WC provided no evidence of any of those control and serial numbers to have been entered into the master book as required by law.

Which part of the testimony do you not understand?

Mr. BELIN. Do you have any master control ledger or book of any kind that has these control numbers on them?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes. One copy is sent to what we call the booking department, and those are put into a master book, control book.
Mr. BELIN. Are you required by law to keep records of serial numbers of guns?
Mr. SCIBOR. Yes.

What difference does it make if they were put into a master book or not? Waldman Exhibit #4 itself is a record that Klein's kept of the serial numbers of the rifles.

[Tim Nickerson]

Because that was the alleged purpose of producing the the original to Waldman 4. 

So how would you verify its authenticity without consulting the master book?

What?  The alleged purpose of producing the original to Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

How would consulting the masterbook verify its authenticity? The master book would just be a duplication of the record of Waldman #4.

[Michael T. Griffith]

What?  The alleged purpose of producing the original to Waldman 4? What are you talking about?

How would consulting the masterbook verify its authenticity? The master book would just be a duplication of the record of Waldman #4.

Gosh, really?  The fact that it was never entered into the master book/control book suggests that it was not a real item, that it was fabricated and was not an item that went through the normal processing and documentation procedures.

That is why you cannot find any evidence that the money order was ever cashed. That is why there is no evidence that it was processed by the bank or by the Federal Reserve System.

That is why the money order was bought by someone else, while Oswald was at work at Jaggars-Stovall.

Etc., etc., etc.

And, by the way, regarding your claim about the timing of and reasons for the SBT's creation, you might want to read historian Dr. Gerald McKnight's chapter on this in his book Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (University Press of Kansas, 2005). It is chapter 8.

[Tim Nickerson]

Gosh, really?  The fact that it was never entered into the master book/control book suggests that it was not a real item, that it was fabricated and was not an item that went through the normal processing and documentation procedures.

How do you know that it was never entered into the master book? Scibor said it was. Waldman #4 alone establishes that it was a real item. Waldman #7 would also suffice as a standalone in establishing that it was a real item.

That is why you cannot find any evidence that the money order was ever cashed. That is why there is no evidence that it was processed by the bank or by the Federal Reserve System.

The File Locator Number proves that the money order was cashed and processed by the Federal Reserve system.

That is why the money order was bought by someone else, while Oswald was at work at Jaggars-Stovall.

The money order was bought by Oswald. He snuck away from work and then lied on his timesheet.

And, by the way, regarding your claim about the timing of and reasons for the SBT's creation, you might want to read historian Dr. Gerald McKnight's chapter on this in his book Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (University Press of Kansas, 2005). It is chapter 8.[/size]

Not interested. The SBT was realized no later than April of 1964.

[Tim Nickerson]

Get up to speed:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10408&search=rupp#relPageId=197&tab=page

That doesn't help at all.

Wow, I forgot how bad you are at this.

Because the master book is the official record required by law, it would not "just" be a duplication. It would also log the chronology of weapons received to verify that C 2766 was an actual February shipment. There is zero evidence to support W4 was created as the result of a February shipment.

Where do you get that they were required by law to keep the control and serial numbers in a master book? What specific Federal or State of Illinois law required those records to be kept in a master book?