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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »
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No, it isn't. The impact moment has happened earlier. Before he comes into sight. Hinrichs cheated by not including the earlier frames where Kennedy's hands are shown to be already rising as he reappears from behind the sign.

Is that supposed to prove that he was hit by a bullet?


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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2020, 09:37:23 PM »
[Referring to the animation in 'Reply #24'] It is impossible to know whether Kennedy's right hand is rising or falling as it emerges from behind the Stemmons sign. As he goes behind the sign he is in the process of lowering his hand after waving so the probability is that his right hand is actually on the way down. There are many times where Kennedy's right hand is in exactly this position during the motorcade as demonstrated by the still photo in Reply #24. The bottom line is that you don't have the slightest clue what's happening with Kennedy's right hand as he emerges from behind the sign.
As for his left hand rising in earlier frames - that is 100% not true. It is not shown in Zapruder at all. Around z175 Kennedy's right arm is leaning over the side of the limo, his right hand clasping his left. He begins to wave with his right hand and his left stays resting on his stomach area until z225. Kennedy's hand begins to reflexively snap shut in this same frame and is fully closed in z226. Importantly, it is this frame where we see Kennedy's left elbow come up as he reacts to being shot.


He's Superman and catches the supersonic bullet in his right hand, then appears to be putting it in his mouth

 ;D

My point is that Hinrichs has avoided the prior frames that show Kennedy already reacting. Furthermore, how the fck would anyone be able to get his hands up that fast. It looks like Herr Hinrichs is attempting to depict that the missile would have hit Kennedy in the hands... maybe in support of a frontal throat shot.
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Re: Fragments
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2020, 09:45:32 PM »
Is that supposed to prove that he was hit by a bullet?

No. It proves that Hinrichs avoided prior frames that show Kennedy reacting to an exterior stimuli earlier than he (Hinrichs) is claiming.

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Fragments
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2020, 09:52:29 PM »
My point is that Hinrichs has avoided the prior frames that show Kennedy already reacting.

Which prior frames?

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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2020, 09:52:52 PM »
No. It proves that Hinrichs avoided prior frames that show Kennedy reacting to an exterior stimuli earlier than he (Hinrichs) is claiming.

Just because you think they "show Kennedy reacting to an exterior stimuli" doesn't mean that he was -- or that Hinrichs "avoided" anything.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2020, 10:03:34 PM »
Which prior frames?

From 224, just as Kennedy emerges from behind the sign
Hinrichs starts at 228

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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2020, 10:08:28 PM »
I get it. Hinrichs is assuming JFK was shot through the neck after which he was shot in the back. Instead of a through-and-through shot he thinks there's a bullet still in his neck  and a bullet stuck in his back. None of which turned up in the autopsy.

Painful :'(

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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2020, 10:10:41 PM »
Does he also think Connally was shot in the back then shot in the front then shot in the wrist then shot in the leg?

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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2020, 10:10:41 PM »