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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2020, 01:13:22 PM »
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Iacoletti,

How do you know for sure that there was no attempt to mislead? Can you read minds?

--  MWT  ;)

PS  At which Z-frame do YOU think JFK probably started "raising his hands towards his neck"?

No opinion?

He's just asking questions  ;)

Do you know if Hinrich Hinrichs is a proponent of a frontal throat wound?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2020, 01:32:09 PM »
There’s no attempt to mislead. He didn’t say that was Kennedy’s first and only reaction to anything. You’re just injecting your own assumptions onto him.

Your man's motivations are clear. No assumptions needed. Btw, isn't he writing some sort of 'magnum opus' about the assassination? Well, eschewing the laws of science will raise laughter faster than anybody's hands, superhuman or not.

To wit: Kennedy's hands are already at his throat by z228, the frame that Hinrich Hinrichs claims impact. This is a bullet travelling at supersonic speed: Tell us how Kennedy would be fast enough to get his hands up to his throat at z228.

Oh, wait... you're just asking questions, right?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2020, 09:49:17 PM »
Ce399 glanced off Mazeroski's glove at second, scoring Berra from third and Mantle from first when Clemente overthrew home plate.

Thanks again for your profoundly wise and relevant input.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2020, 09:54:29 PM »
Your man's motivations are clear. No assumptions needed.

You provide nothing but assumptions, unsubstantiated claims, and irrelevancies.

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Btw, isn't he writing some sort of 'magnum opus' about the assassination?

I have no idea what you’re talking about, and I doubt you do either.

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To wit: Kennedy's hands are already at his throat by z228, the frame that Hinrich Hinrichs claims impact. This is a bullet travelling at supersonic speed: Tell us how Kennedy would be fast enough to get his hands up to his throat at z228.

Tell us why you keep trying to associate both actions with the same stimulus.

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« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2020, 10:17:47 PM »
  Along these lines, have you guys noticed that Tink Thompson has a New Book, "Last Second In Dallas" coming out Nov 13? He continues proffering his crossfire scenario and attacks the Bullet Fragments retrieved from inside the JFK Limo being ALL fired from the Carcano. Looks good with New Info/Postulations from Thompson.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2020, 10:55:21 PM »
You provide nothing but assumptions, unsubstantiated claims, and irrelevancies.

I have no idea what you’re talking about, and I doubt you do either.

Tell us why you keep trying to associate both actions with the same stimulus.

1) Kennedy's sudden quick reaction as he reappears from behind the sign (that eventually brings his hands to his throat) are neither assumptions, unsubstantiated claims, nor irrelevant to my questioning Hinrich's claim of a z228 impact.

2) You missed my question mark.

3) What 'both actions'? Hinrich's gif utilizing several frames starting at z228 which toggle back-and forth shows nothing of a second stimulus.

Tell us why you are insisting on a second stimulus. Better still, show us where in the film.
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« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2020, 11:15:59 PM »
1) Kennedy's sudden quick reaction as he reappears from behind the sign (that eventually brings his hands to his throat) are neither assumptions, unsubstantiated claims, nor irrelevant to my questioning Hinrich's claim of a z228 impact.

2) You missed my question mark.

3) What 'both actions'? Hinrich's gif utilizing several frames starting at z228 which toggle back-and forth shows nothing of a second stimulus.

Tell us why you are insisting on a second stimulus. Better still, show us where in the film.

Bill,

I'm afraid you're wasting your time trying to reason with John.

In my experience, it's impossible to prove to him, minus ten film clips showing the same event from different perspectives, eighteen photographs, eight notarized statements (in triplicate), and five authenticated DNA test results, anything he rationally (or otherwise) fears might implicate his hero, self-proclaimed Marxist Lee Harvey Oswald, or, conversely, exonerate the evil, evil, evil "Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex" (which many brainwashed Americans, to Vladimir Putin's glee, nowaday call "The Deep State").

--  MWT  ;)
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Offline Dan O'meara

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« Reply #79 on: July 14, 2020, 11:26:05 AM »
JFK raises his fists to his throat as a reaction to a stimulus, then raises one elbow as a reaction to another stimulus, then raises the other elbow as a reaction to another stimulus then coughs up a furball as a ...you get the picture. Hinrichs has isolated one aspect of a complex reaction and assigned it special significance (in my opinion). There is no need to view JFK's various movements as anything other than a single complex of movements to a single, traumatic stimulus (as far as I'm concerned)

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