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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Fragments
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2020, 12:34:59 AM »
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Why? Because the same bullet strike must account for both reactions? Sounds circular.

Iacoletti,

Which one of the ten or so bullets that struck JFK in the evil, evil, evil CIA's triangulated fusillade do you think caused him to raise his elbows like that?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2020, 12:37:23 AM »
Why? Because the same bullet strike must account for both reactions? Sounds circular.

Hinrich has presented z228 in absence of the immediately preceding frames. Thus a claim of a z288 second reaction should at least raise one's eyebrows somewhat.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2020, 05:30:43 AM »
You didn’t raise your eyebrows, you called him wrong. He showed where he saw a back impact. You’re pointing out a raising of his hands towards his throat. Two different observations.

P.S. it’s Hinrichs
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2020, 05:47:01 AM »
You didn’t raise your eyebrows, you called him wrong. He showed where he saw a back impact. You’re pointing out a raising of his hands towards his throat. Two different observations.

P.S. it’s Hinrichs

Stop trying to mangle what I said

I indeed called him wrong. And I raised my eyebrows when I saw that he didn't include the immediate preceding frames which indicate hands rising before z228. And suggested eyebrows should at least be raised at his obvious attempt to mislead.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2020, 07:21:22 AM »
There’s no attempt to mislead. He didn’t say that was Kennedy’s first and only reaction to anything. You’re just injecting your own assumptions onto him.

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Offline Thomas Graves

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« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2020, 07:36:10 AM »
There’s no attempt to mislead. He didn’t say that was Kennedy’s first and only reaction to anything. You’re just injecting your own assumptions onto him.

Iacoletti,

How do you know for sure that there was no attempt to mislead? Can you read minds?

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PS  At which Z-frame do YOU think JFK probably started "raising his hands towards his neck"?

No opinion?
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« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2020, 07:59:39 AM »
How did those fragments get past Connally's torso and whatever happened to them? The size of the wounds rule out them being caused by small fragments. What happened to the bullet that entered his back and exited his chest?

C399 exited JFK's throat undamaged after passing through his coat, shirt and flesh, and then penetrated Connally's back at high speed, smashed a rib, exited his chest, smashed his right wrist, and embedded itself shallowly in his thigh, correct?

Not at all implausible for a round-nosed, full-metal-jacket 6.5 mm bullet bullet travelling about 2000 feet per second when it struck JFK.

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« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2020, 12:15:54 PM »
C399 exited JFK's throat undamaged after passing through his coat, shirt and flesh, and then penetrated Connally's back at high speed, smashed a rib, exited his chest, smashed his right wrist, and embedded itself shallowly in his thigh, correct?

Not at all implausible for a round-nosed, full-metal-jacket 6.5 mm bullet bullet travelling about 2000 feet per second when it struck JFK.

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Ce399 glanced off Mazeroski's glove at second, scoring Berra from third and Mantle from first when Clemente overthrew home plate.
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