The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory

[John Tonkovich]

I've seen this claim a few times. Based on Altgens' WC testimony.

    "This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet
     from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the
     west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car."

He's a lot more than 15 feet away from the President's head at Z312/313. And maybe 30 feet away from Mrs. Kennedy's car door.

Ike Altgens' livelihood depended on him knowing distances, especially in 1940, when he started taking pictures with fairly primitive - by today's standards - cameras. If he miscalculated, the picture would not be in focus.
So, I would tend to trust his judgement regarding distances more than most, if not all, of the people in Dealey Plaza.
Yet, he is not 15ft away.
Perhaps there's something you're missing. : )

[John Mytton]

Ike Altgens' livelihood depended on him knowing distances, especially in 1940, when he started taking pictures with fairly primitive - by today's standards - cameras. If he miscalculated, the picture would not be in focus.
So, I would tend to trust his judgement regarding distances more than most, if not all, of the people in Dealey Plaza.
Yet, he is not 15ft away.
Perhaps there's something you're missing. : )

Altgens says he was "about 15 feet" from Kennedy's Limo and the Limo was about 21 feet long so by using Jerry's graphic the measurement from Altgens to Kennedy's Limo is about 18-19 feet.

Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car.


Credit Jerry Organ

JohnM

[Jerry Organ]

(Note: The 40-Foot Scale Should Read 80-Foot) "Altgens at Z-346" is Cutler's positioning of Algtens in the Zapruder film

Altgens is oblique to the limousine's line-of-travel, which increases by a few feet his distance from the car. At Z-346, I estimate (based on Cutler's map) that Altgens is about 22 feet from Mrs. Kennedy's car door. The car seems to pass closest to Altgens in the Z350s.


Under the stressful circumstances (and given that the car did pass very near to Altgens) Altgens' estimate is within reason. But it's an estimate that's not possible.

[Jerry Freeman]

What does getting all anal about how far Altgens was from the limo really have to do with Tague's injury?

[Jerry Organ]

What does getting all anal about how far Altgens was from the limo really have to do with Tague's injury?

At least it's something measurable and captured on the photographic record.

Unlike the loop-the-loop hypotheticals surrounding Tague.

[Gerry Down]

Frame 346 - Is that Altgens camera case sitting on the grass behind him?

[Jerry Organ]

Frame 346 - Is that Altgens camera case sitting on the grass behind him?

Yes. Altgens left his camera case there while he was across the street.

[Gerry Down]

Yes. Altgens left his camera case there while he was across the street.

I thought it might have been a womans handbag. And was wondering why she left it there.