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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2020, 04:27:55 PM »
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(Altgens was on the grass, so there's 2 to 3 ft. to add.)

Don't wan tot seem picky but Altgen wasn't standing 2 to 3 ft back from the curb. His left foot is standing on the curb.

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2020, 05:21:31 PM »
Don't wan tot seem picky but Altgen wasn't standing 2 to 3 ft back from the curb. His left foot is standing on the curb.

. You're not being picky. Always appreciate corrections and more info, especially when delivered politely.
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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2020, 07:55:06 PM »
LBJ and Russell September 9,1964:

RUSSELL: No, no, They're trying to prove that the same bullet that hit Kennedy first was the one that hit Connally,
went through him and through his hand, his bone and into his leg... I couldn't hear all the evidence and cross-examine
all of 'em. But I did read the record...I was the only fellow there that...suggested any change whatever in what the
staff got up. This staff business always scares me. I like to put my own views down. But we got you a pretty good report.

LBJ: Well, what difference does it make which bullet got Connally?

RUSSELL: Well, it don't make much difference. But they said that...the commission believes that the same bullet that
hit Kennedy hit Connally. Well I don't believe it.

LBJ: I don't either

RUSSELL: And so I couldn't sign it. And I said that Governor Connally testified directly to the contrary and I'm not
gonna approve of that. So I finally made 'em say there was a difference in the commission, in that part of 'em believed
that that wasn't so. And 'course if a fellow was accurate enough to hit Kennedy right in the neck on one shot and knock
his head off in the next one-and he's leaning up against his wife's head-and not even wound her-why, he didn't miss
completely with that third shot. But according to their theory, he not only missed the whole automobile, but he missed
the the street! Well, a man that's a good enough shot to put two bullets right into Kennedy, he didn't miss that whole
automobile.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=4271&relPageId=27

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2020, 08:30:45 PM »
LBJ and Russell September 9,1964:

RUSSELL: No, no, They're trying to prove that the same bullet that hit Kennedy first was the one that hit Connally,
went through him and through his hand, his bone and into his leg... I couldn't hear all the evidence and cross-examine
all of 'em. But I did read the record...I was the only fellow there that...suggested any change whatever in what the
staff got up. This staff business always scares me. I like to put my own views down. But we got you a pretty good report.

LBJ: Well, what difference does it make which bullet got Connally?

RUSSELL: Well, it don't make much difference. But they said that...the commission believes that the same bullet that
hit Kennedy hit Connally. Well I don't believe it.

LBJ: I don't either

RUSSELL: And so I couldn't sign it. And I said that Governor Connally testified directly to the contrary and I'm not
gonna approve of that. So I finally made 'em say there was a difference in the commission, in that part of 'em believed
that that wasn't so. And 'course if a fellow was accurate enough to hit Kennedy right in the neck on one shot and knock
his head off in the next one-and he's leaning up against his wife's head-and not even wound her-why, he didn't miss
completely with that third shot. But according to their theory, he not only missed the whole automobile, but he missed
the the street! Well, a man that's a good enough shot to put two bullets right into Kennedy, he didn't miss that whole
automobile.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=4271&relPageId=27

He didn't miss that whole automobile.

Probably not.

Third shot impact z350ish

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2020, 08:45:50 PM »
He didn't miss that whole automobile.

Probably not.

Third shot impact z350ish

Which shooter didn't miss?

There are witness reports of bullets hitting, a curb, concrete, pavement and turf.

IMO more than one shooter was firing and from more than one location.

Professionals would have created diversions to misdirect the attention of the Secret Service and witnesses as to the source of the shots

and to facilitate escape. IMO

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Offline Gerry Down

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2020, 10:28:54 PM »


Has anyone said the fragment had to go over the rollbar?

Remember, these are fragments. They are not aerodynamically sound. They are unevenly shaped. They could have gone over the roll bar like a boomerang and hit Tague.

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2020, 12:57:33 AM »
Remember, these are fragments. They are not aerodynamically sound. They are unevenly shaped. They could have gone over the roll bar like a boomerang and hit Tague.
Correct.
And, since there were two head shots, that kind of doubles the odds.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2020, 02:00:55 AM »
Except, how wide is Elm St.? 
Back of curb to back of curb? 37 ft or 41 ft [typical 3 lane Dallas city street widths]--- So Jerry O is real close there.

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2020, 02:00:55 AM »