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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1464 on: March 17, 2021, 01:03:50 PM »
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He said he went outside to watch the P. Parade. Ain't nothing you can do about it, Mr Cakebread!  Thumb1:

There is no official report that mentions Oswald going outside at the time of the assassination.
On the contrary, we find this:

"I asked him if he viewed the parade and he said he had not"
                                                                                           Report of Inspector Thomas J Kelley

There is no way you can get away from this Alan.
Not to mention that no witnesses place Oswald on the steps.
In fact, there are witnesses who specifically state Oswald wasn't on the steps at the time of the assassination.

You can wave Hosty's note around all you want. It is refuted by the above facts.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1464 on: March 17, 2021, 01:03:50 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1465 on: March 17, 2021, 01:32:00 PM »
There is no official report that mentions Oswald going outside at the time of the assassination.

That's because Agent Hosty's draft report was suppressed

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On the contrary, we find this:

"I asked him if he viewed the parade and he said he had not"
                                                                                           Report of Inspector Thomas J Kelley

There is no way you can get away from this Alan.
Not to mention that no witnesses place Oswald on the steps.
In fact, there are witnesses who specifically state Oswald wasn't on the steps at the time of the assassination.

You can wave Hosty's note around all you want. It is refuted by the above facts.

No, Agent Hosty's draft report exposes the fact that there was a cover-up, to which Inspector Kelley was party. If you weren't a die-hard WC apologist you would have no difficulty seeing this.

Speaking of things you should have no difficulty with, how are you getting on with your important work on The Amazing Lovelady Contortion?



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1466 on: March 17, 2021, 03:51:22 PM »
That's exactly what he's doing





Precisely!

Have to admire & respect anyone w/so much to lose to dare to come clean under the intense scrutiny of those truly responsible in this case.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1466 on: March 17, 2021, 03:51:22 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1467 on: March 17, 2021, 03:58:57 PM »
Setting aside the timing issue momentarily..................

Inspector Sawyer will soon be broadcasting the following on Channel 2:

"Well, apparently, the shots might have come from this building. It's unknown whether he's still there or not. It's unknown whether he was there in the first place."

Let's take each element in turn.....................

"It's unknown whether he's still there or not": This does not sound like a description based on a man seen running out the back door of the Depository. Inspector Sawyer's description would seem to have come from a different source.

"It's unknown whether he was there in the first place": This does not sound like a description based on a man seen firing from one of the Depository windows (by e.g. Mr Howard Brennan). (I am assuming here that "in the first place" means at the the actual time shots were fired.) Inspector Sawyer's description would seem to have come from a different source.

One would very much like to suggest that the true source was none other than Officer Marrion Baker, whose affidavit description of the man caught walking away from the stairway on the third or fourth floor is SO close to the suspect description that went out over Channel 2. One would furthermore like to suggest that Officer Baker mentioned this man to Inspector Sawyer during their brief rendezvous on the "third or fourth floor" (!).

However! What doesn't fit here is that the Channel 2 description mentions that the man was "carrying what looked to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester"....................

Appreciate the succinct summation there, Mr. Ford, well done...

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1468 on: March 17, 2021, 04:10:37 PM »
Two questions.

 Why was the Hosty note about Oswald watching p parade hidden from public for several decades?


 Why is NBC refusing to release the original Wiegman and Darnell films?

 Fred

An astute round of questioning there, Mr. Clements, essentially laying dormant at ground zero of the biggest cover up in American History.

imho only true patriots standing on the right side of history would dare ask these questions.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1469 on: March 17, 2021, 04:24:07 PM »
Would you agree that "next to me" could literally be in any direction?

Would you agree that there is not enough information to determine (without guessing) why she could not see the car?

Excellent points there, Mr. Iacoletti, there's a strong possibility she couldn't see the car simply because others jockeying their position in front of her blocked her view; and/or perhaps because sunlight rays beamed into the East side of the entrance, where she actually stood (nowhere near PM's position) she needed to blink her eyes several times to readjust her focus but by that time the limousine simply moved beyond her viewing vantage point altogether.

Appreciate you, Mr. Plant, etc. for keeping the discussion grounded in a closer examination of a thorough evaluation as possible. Carry on gentlemen.


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1470 on: March 17, 2021, 04:32:58 PM »
Did not Marina Oswald herself identify the PM figure as Lee?

Fred

An interesting & fair question there, Mr. Clements, since she would recognize the looks & demeanor (stance) of the man she was intimate with since the Spring of 1961 (roughly 2 1/2 years before the capture of PM's position outside watching the P. parade).

I believe--please fact check this in case I'm in error here--that some dedicated researchers w/ties to Great Britain, Australia, etc have reached out to her and she did indeed make a positive identification of her late husband as PM.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1471 on: March 17, 2021, 04:34:22 PM »
Yes. Somebody blocked her view. Next.

An astute assessment there, Mr. Mitcham.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1471 on: March 17, 2021, 04:34:22 PM »