Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Royell Storing]

Hi Royell, I do not know if I can help you with that particular picture. I can do this: Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

In this Cabluck photograph we have two boys running on the sidewalk. The two boys from the North Arcade have left the Arcade and are running too.


In the next Cabluck photograph, the four boys are running together. Robert MacNeil has just left the Press Bus and is on the sidewalk near Ike Altgens, and he is running too.


In this Cabluck and Cancellare combination, it has the boys labelled.


Here is an uncropped version of the Cancellare photograph including Robert MacNeil this time.


This is Bond 6. Maybe this is the picture you were thinking of.

    Michael - Thanks but none of these is the photo I am looking for. Bond gets close to that same time frame and LOS, but still no cigar. The Photo I seek is highlighted in "The Killing Of A President" by Groden on pages 54-57. Personally, I believe that "Gordon Arnold Area" from the picket fence over to the short block wall is an area on the Knoll that we do Not know jack about. Darnell has some blurry frames from down inside that general area, but nothing anybody can hang their hat on as to DETAIL within this possible shooter space. This is the same area that Lee Bowers was eyeballing shortly before the JFK Motorcade went onto Houston and then quickly onto Elm. From his 2nd story railroad tower vantage point, Bowers was looking Straight Down both sides of the Picket Fence. That day, nobody had a better look at both sides of the Picket Fence Area before, during, and after the JFK Assassination than Lee Bowers. Nobody.   

[Zeon Mason]

@Michael Welch: Thank you for your input on Billy Lovelady in Weigman film and the Altgens 6 photo which do coincide.

But as Mr. Ford has already explained, the Hughes film had Lovelady right adjacent to the west wall and so it’s a question if Lovejady did actually move to the center handrail position during the Towner film and if that’s  the explanation for this swath of red seen thru the foliage in Towner film that’s too wide ti be just one person OR..

Are there TWO persons with reddish shirts and Oswald was the one in Hughes against the west wall while Lovelady was at the center hand rail ( middle ) of the steps but was obscured in Hughes film by the blue shirt man in the pedistal?

I think Alan and I arrived at this latter scenario because of the 4 anomalies in Altgens 6 photo and Weigman film:

1. The strange shadow on the right side of Lovelady’s body in Weigman film clip
2. The Cronkite version of Altgens 6 photo which shows what appears to be a forearm raised up with what looks like a bottle (darkhorizontal slash) that cuts across the white shirt part of Loveladys body.
3. The 2nd version of Altgens 6 photo which shows the firearm ( and bottle) have been basically erased by coloring over it with the shirt texture pattern of Loveladys shirt.
4. This right arm shirt sleeve of Loveladys has NO HAND at the end of it AND the end of the sleeve ( cuff) weirdly looks like it’s overlapping part of the face of the black man whom is supposed to be Carl Jones , ( big guy with cream colored long sleeve shirt ).

[Michael Welch]

    Michael - Thanks but none of these is the photo I am looking for. Bond gets close to that same time frame and LOS, but still no cigar. The Photo I seek is highlighted in "The Killing Of A President" by Groden on pages 54-57. Personally, I believe that "Gordon Arnold Area" from the picket fence over to the short block wall is an area on the Knoll that we do Not know jack about. Darnell has some blurry frames from down inside that general area, but nothing anybody can hang their hat on as to DETAIL within this possible shooter space. This is the same area that Lee Bowers was eyeballing shortly before the JFK Motorcade went onto Houston and then quickly onto Elm. From his 2nd story railroad tower vantage point, Bowers was looking Straight Down both sides of the Picket Fence. That day, nobody had a better look at both sides of the Picket Fence Area before, during, and after the JFK Assassination than Lee Bowers. Nobody.

Hi Royell, Yes, I agree with you again! And in this Gerda gif, it looks like Black Dog Man may be holding some sort of weapon. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

[Duncan MacRae]

[Royell Storing]

      Eyeball where that wall measures up to the guy in the white slacks. Now envision an adult seated on that bench directly behind the white slacks guy. The head/shoulders  of an adult seated on that bench would have been higher than the wall and therefore visible on photos/film footage of this area. No JFK assassination photos or film footage shows anyone seated on that bench. Sitzman is the only JFK Assassination eyewitness to have claimed to of seen anyone seated on that bench before and immediately after the assassination. If the sole claim of Sitzman is going to be accepted as Fact, is the sole claim of Gordon Arnold also being given this same rubber stamping?   

[Michael Welch]

Hi Duncan, Thank you for your reply! As far as I can tell, after studying this some more, Black Dog Man remains a Man. The young black couple are there, but further down by the wooden seat where they break their bottle or bottles which Marilyn hears and the liquid is seen on the concrete in Darnell. Thank you for your valuable input! With Much Gratitude and Admiration, Michael

[Royell Storing]

Hi Duncan, Thank you for your reply! As far as I can tell, after studying this some more, Black Dog Man remains a Man. The young black couple are there, but further down by the wooden seat where they break their bottle or bottles which Marilyn hears and the liquid is seen on the concrete in Darnell. Thank you for your valuable input! With Much Gratitude and Admiration, Michael

    Sitzman's claim of a Black Couple being seated on that bench NEVER mentioned a baby. Sitzman said as the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass, the Black Couple then got up and ran Up the steps as they threw their coke bottles down/breaking them. Again, NO MENTION of a baby being carried by either of these 2 people as they allegedly raced Up The Steps. (And, consider how foolishly difficult it would be to juggle a baby in 1 arm while taking the time to slam a coke bottle to the ground). Importantly, if this couple is running Up The Steps, they would be facing Sitzman. A baby being carried by 1 of them would clearly be visible. Sitzman probably saw a Black Couple doing all of this, (no baby), at a different point in time. Unfortunately, the gaping holes in the Sitzman story does Not stop people from latching onto it in order to try and explain The Black Dog Man. Remember when looking at any of the Black Dog Man photos, bear in mind that the portion of the picket fence that runs directly down toward Elm St actually extends further down toward Elm St than the Black Dog Man Nook/Position does. Any "light" blotches you see behind the Black Dog Man figure are actually in line with the Side of the picket fence. These light blotches are roughly in the same area that Gordon Arnold claimed to have been standing/filming that day. 

[Michael Welch]

@Michael Welch: Thank you for your input on Billy Lovelady in Weigman film and the Altgens 6 photo which do coincide.

But as Mr. Ford has already explained, the Hughes film had Lovelady right adjacent to the west wall and so it’s a question if Lovejady did actually move to the center handrail position during the Towner film and if that’s  the explanation for this swath of red seen thru the foliage in Towner film that’s too wide ti be just one person OR..

Are there TWO persons with reddish shirts and Oswald was the one in Hughes against the west wall while Lovelady was at the center hand rail ( middle ) of the steps but was obscured in Hughes film by the blue shirt man in the pedistal?

I think Alan and I arrived at this latter scenario because of the 4 anomalies in Altgens 6 photo and Weigman film:

1. The strange shadow on the right side of Lovelady’s body in Weigman film clip
2. The Cronkite version of Altgens 6 photo which shows what appears to be a forearm raised up with what looks like a bottle (darkhorizontal slash) that cuts across the white shirt part of Loveladys body.
3. The 2nd version of Altgens 6 photo which shows the firearm ( and bottle) have been basically erased by coloring over it with the shirt texture pattern of Loveladys shirt.
4. This right arm shirt sleeve of Loveladys has NO HAND at the end of it AND the end of the sleeve ( cuff) weirdly looks like it’s overlapping part of the face of the black man whom is supposed to be Carl Jones , ( big guy with cream colored long sleeve shirt ).

Hi Zeon, After studying the Hughes gif some more, there are not two people in red shirts. What happens is somebody, possibly Jay Skaggs, comes over from the right hand side and takes a picture. They end up in between Billy and Maddie but are actually closer to Elm Street. Do you happen to have a link to Conkrite's Altgens 6? Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael