Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

Suggestions for what the white object is in PM’s hands:

1. White coffee cup
2. White styrofoam cup
3. Camera
4. 1963 Dr.Pepper bottle w/ white logo
5. Cigarette lighter flame

Mr. Ford has presented an image of a forearm and hand upraised and presumed to be not the forearm of Lewis (black man at lower west wall corner of the TSBD entrance steps), nor the forearm belonging to Lovelady.

Mr. Ford has outlined also some object that he thinks he sees in the upraised hand?

If there is a shape, can it be analyzed by some computer image program to determine which of the 5 hypothetical objects listed above is the most probable?

If coffee cup or styrofoam cup, the quantity of liquid would be minimal, and thus  possibly consumed completely BEFORE PM was captured in Weigman film

If a camera, then one must ask what would be the reason for PM to hold up the camera ( as though photographing the side of the TSBD) in the Altgens photo. Also, would not the face of PM be visible if holding up the camera to his eye?

If a cigarette lighter aflame in the hand of PM in Weigman film then the small object is not likely to be visible in the hand when PM moves and raises the arm in Alrhens photo

The Dr. Pepper bottle, therefore, is my pick because

A. The bottle upraised, having a long neck, may explain face of PM obscured by west corner wall , even thought bottle shape would be visible in the hand

B. Quantity of liquid would be consumed over a longer periodic time  with raising hand up multiple times

C. Coincidental finding of a Dr. Pepper
Bottle on the steps next to the West wall of the TSBD where PM is seen in the Weigman film, and where he would have stepped down to lower step in an increment of time between last Weigman frame of entrance steps and the Altgens photo 6.

D. The shape of the bottle would be more visible and be horizontal if upraised to take a drink as is the object that Mr. Ford has outlined (although its indeterminate), in the now presumed upraised hand of PM before that image was altered by adding texture and pattern of Lovelady shirt to obscure the arm and make it appear to be Loveladys arm.

It looks like a coke bottle.



The reason it looks like a coke bottle is probably that it is one.

[Alan Ford]

Still can't explain the shadow, eh Mr O'Meara? Oh dear oh dear, how embarrassing for you!

Friends, while we await Mr O'Meara's brilliant analysis of the shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman, let's remind ourselves of the... interesting thing that happens to the car aerial as it passes over said shadow-----------

[Dan O'meara]

It looks like a coke bottle.



The reason it looks like a coke bottle is probably that it is one.

How can you tell it's coke?
Where's your coke bottle in this pic?



Getting back to something serious, I believe it was who accused Nat Pinkston of having something to do with creating the 2FLRE Hoax.
Was this just more of your made-up 

[Alan Ford]

How can you tell it's coke?
Where's your coke bottle in this pic?



Getting back to something serious, I believe it was who accused Nat Pinkston of having something to do with creating the 2FLRE Hoax.
Was this just more of your made-up 

Much as poor Mr O'Meara wants to keep partying like it's 2010, I'm afraid he needs another friendly reminder that his claim that Mr Lovelady is in "partial shadow" here still needs splainin'.....



Over to you, Mr O'Meara! 

[Dan O'meara]

Much as poor Mr O'Meara wants to keep partying like it's 2010, I'm afraid he needs another friendly reminder that his claim that Mr Lovelady is in "partial shadow" here still needs splainin'.....



Over to you, Mr O'Meara! 

Where's the coke bottle Alan and why do you need the concept of 'shadows' 'splained to you

[Alan Ford]

Where's the coke bottle Alan and why do you need the concept of 'shadows' 'splained to you

So what physical entity, in your view, is casting the shadow that covers nearly half of Mr Lovelady's body?



 

[Zeon Mason]

There is slight problem with the speculative notion of PM having moved down a few steps in the brief interlude between Wiegman films last frame of entrance and Altgens photo capture.

The problem is that in Couch film sequence of the entrance which is AFTER Altgens photo, PM appears to be in the SAME position in the corner as he was in Weigman film.

[Alan Ford]

There is slight problem with the speculative notion of PM having moved down a few steps in the brief interlude between Wiegman films last frame of entrance and Altgens photo capture.

The problem is that in Couch film sequence of the entrance which is AFTER Altgens photo, PM appears to be in the SAME position in the corner as he was in Weigman film.

As I understand it, Mr Mason, Wiegman starts filming over a second after the Altgens photograph is taken. (I am following Mr Mark Tyler's calculations here.)

The figure with the (as I believe) coke bottle in hand need only step back/up one step to be in the PM position in Wiegman.

PM shows up in the Darnell film btw, not the Couch film.

So the chronology is: 1. Altgens 2. Wiegman 3. Darnell