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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #944 on: January 20, 2021, 04:12:09 PM »
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Friends, there are now two main opposing narratives:

1------------Mr Oswald corroborated the post-assassination second floor lunchroom encounter (as claimed in the LATER interrogation reports)
2------------Mr Oswald, far from corroborating the encounter, said he visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, then went down to one, then "went outside to watch P. Parade" (the EARLIEST interrogation report: Agent Hosty's handwritten draft)

My argument is simply this: once one does NOT assume that Mr Oswald (per #2 above) is lying, then things fall into place:

--------the suppression of Agent Hosty's draft report
--------the evolution of the story in subsequent reports
--------the 11/22 DPD statements about a front entrance encounter
--------the impossible shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman
--------the appearance of an arm + bottle in the version of Altgens 6 that Mr Walter Cronkite showed that evening
--------Officer Baker's 11/22 affidavit description of a man caught walking away from the stairway on "the third or fourth floor"
--------the glaring problems with the lunchroom story
--------the notable fact that not a single credible alternative candidate has been found for Prayer Person
--------and much else besides.

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he visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, then went down to one, then "went outside to watch P. Parade"

Mr Ford, you clearly have a reading comprehension problem.

Lee told the lead conspirator, Capt. Fritz that he was eating his lunch on the First floor ( the Domino Room) when he saw James "Junior" Jarman, and Harold Norman pass by the Lunchroom.  Those two employees verified that they had in fact walked by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:26.  So they unknowingly corroborated Lee's statement that he was eating his lunch in the FIRST FLOOR LUNCHROOM at 12:26.   Lee told Fritz that while eating his lunch he went to the 2nd floor lunchroom ( about 12:28) to get a Coca Cola from the Coke machine in the second floor lunchroom. While he was there in the second floor lunchroom DPD officer Baker encountered him in that 2nd lunchroom (12:31) After Baker left Lee went back down to the first floor lunchroom and finished eating his lunch.( 12:35)   He then went outside and stood around for about five minutes and talked to Bill Shelley before leaving to go to his rented room to change his clothes.   




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #944 on: January 20, 2021, 04:12:09 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #945 on: January 20, 2021, 04:36:18 PM »
he visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, then went down to one, then "went outside to watch P. Parade"

Mr Ford, you clearly have a reading comprehension problem.

Lee told the lead conspirator, Capt. Fritz that he was eating his lunch on the First floor ( the Domino Room) when he saw James "Junior" Jarman, and Harold Norman pass by the Lunchroom.  Those two employees verified that they had in fact walked by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:26.  So they unknowingly corroborated Lee's statement that he was eating his lunch in the FIRST FLOOR LUNCHROOM at 12:26.   Lee told Fritz that while eating his lunch he went to the 2nd floor lunchroom ( about 12:28) to get a Coca Cola from the Coke machine in the second floor lunchroom. While he was there in the second floor lunchroom DPD officer Baker encountered him in that 2nd lunchroom (12:31) After Baker left Lee went back down to the first floor lunchroom and finished eating his lunch.( 12:35)   He then went outside and stood around for about five minutes and talked to Bill Shelley before leaving to go to his rented room to change his clothes.   



You have just accompanied your imagined version of events with a document that makes a nonsense of it!

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #946 on: January 20, 2021, 07:58:54 PM »
You have just accompanied your imagined version of events with a document that makes a nonsense of it!

I'll think you'll find Walt's interpretation of said document is spot on, tying in with other recorded interrogations of Oswald. Something your interpretation doesn't do. Also, Walt's interpretation is independently corroborated by the testimonies of Jarman and Norman.
How is your interpretation corroborated by anything other than your own fertile imagination.

"Then went out to watch P. parade"

It doesn't say he saw the parade, does it.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #947 on: January 20, 2021, 10:11:33 PM »
I'll think you'll find Walt's interpretation of said document is spot on, tying in with other recorded interrogations of Oswald. Something your interpretation doesn't do. Also, Walt's interpretation is independently corroborated by the testimonies of Jarman and Norman.

My, you really aren't very good at this, are you, Mr O'Meara?

Mr Oswald visited the second floor lunchroom, came down to one (during which time he saw Messrs Jarman and Norman), then went outside to watch the P. Parade.

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How is your interpretation corroborated by anything other than your own fertile imagination.

"Then went out

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to watch P. parade"[/b]

It doesn't say he saw the parade, does it.

~Grin~ It says he went outside to watch the P. Parade. Your bizarre theory is that he was challenged by a cop at pistol-point in the lunchroom, then had a lady employee in the office area exclaim to him that someone had shot the President, then went down to-------eat lunch (!) and then went out to--------watch the P. Parade:D

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #948 on: January 20, 2021, 10:37:36 PM »
Your bizarre theory is that he was challenged by a cop at pistol-point in the lunchroom, then had a lady employee in the office area exclaim to him that someone had shot the President, then went down to-------eat lunch (!) and then went out to--------watch the P. Parade:D

Really Alan?
And would you like to point out where I've ever said anything remotely like that.
Obviously you can't as it's just part of your fantasy world.
Like this Hoax the "investigating authorities" have made up that you don't have a single scrap of evidence for.
Pure fantasy.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #948 on: January 20, 2021, 10:37:36 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #949 on: January 20, 2021, 10:43:11 PM »
Really Alan?
And would you like to point out where I've ever said anything remotely like that.

Which bit of this do you, with your Warren Gullible take on the lunchroom incident and the Ms Reid incident, not believe?-----------

---------Mr Oswald was challenged by a cop at pistol-point in the lunchroom (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then had a lady employee in the office area exclaim to him that someone had shot the President (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then went down to one to eat lunch (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then went out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade (YES?/NO?)

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #950 on: January 20, 2021, 10:50:19 PM »
Which bit of this do you, with your Warren Gullible take on the lunchroom incident and the Ms Reid incident, not believe?-----------

---------Mr Oswald was challenged by a cop at pistol-point in the lunchroom (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then had a lady employee in the office area exclaim to him that someone had shot the President (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then went down to one to eat lunch (YES?/NO?)
---------Mr Oswald then went out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade (YES?/NO?)

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Yes
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No
No

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #951 on: January 20, 2021, 10:55:38 PM »
Yes
Yes
No
No

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So it turns out that, unlike Mr Cakebread, you believe-----------------

---------Mr Oswald did NOT, after his visit to the second floor lunchroom, go down to one to eat lunch
---------Mr Oswald did NOT then go out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade

Question! Do you believe that Mr Oswald did, however, make those claims in that first interrogation?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #951 on: January 20, 2021, 10:55:38 PM »