Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

Someone did record his final alteration of the story. Holmes noted what he said and it is obvious you see the importance and significance of his change in his movements of the day. LHO's mistake was centered on him stating he came down after the "commotion" nothing more. LHO's story always had him in an encounter with Baker on the second floor following the assassination which he stated he came down the stairs to the encounter in the second floor lunchroom. At the time nobody had a clear view of the whole picture of the employees movements, today we do.

No sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story was noted by Captain Fritz or anyone else, and the reason is that there was no sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he visited the second floor lunchroom before the motorcade and went outside to watch the P. Parade.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he encountered a cop at the front entrance.

This is the same story: Mr Oswald being out front for the assassination puts him in Officer Baker's path. And-------a point you keep ignoring-------DPD on 11/22 were telling the press all about this front entrance encounter. And Mr Lovelady saw it and told Mr Jarman all about it.

If Officer Baker's dash into the building had not been so disastrously quick, the encounter never would have been moved up to the second floor lunchroom.

[Alan Ford]

Are there any other prints of the Altgens 6 photo that show the same anomaly (fore arm with bottle in hand) as in the Cronkite  TV show print ?

Not to my knowledge, Mr Mason

[Alan Ford]

From Mr Truly's 11/22 FBI interview report------------



Why are you telling us this, Mr Truly? 

[Jack Nessan]

From Mr Truly's 11/22 FBI interview report------------



Why are you telling us this, Mr Truly? 

Good post about Truly's account of the encounter, but it gets worse for LHO and his mistaken admission of being located on the upper floor during the assassination.

This explains the vestibule and also the double doors as being on the second floor before the lunchroom.

The following affidavit was executed by Roy Sansom Truly on August 3, 1964.
PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION
ON THE ASSASSINATION OF
PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY

AFFIDAVIT

STATE OF TEXAS,
County of Dallas, ss:

I, Roy Sansom Truly, being duly sworn say:
1. I am the Superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository Building Dallas, Texas.
2. The door opening on the vestibule of the lunchroom on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building is usually shut because of a closing mechanism on the door

[Jack Nessan]

No sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story was noted by Captain Fritz or anyone else, and the reason is that there was no sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he visited the second floor lunchroom before the motorcade and went outside to watch the P. Parade.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he encountered a cop at the front entrance.

This is the same story: Mr Oswald being out front for the assassination puts him in Officer Baker's path. And-------a point you keep ignoring-------DPD on 11/22 were telling the press all about this front entrance encounter. And Mr Lovelady saw it and told Mr Jarman all about it.

If Officer Baker's dash into the building had not been so disastrously quick, the encounter never would have been moved up to the second floor lunchroom.

LHO's own admissions in repeated interogations place him and Baker meeting on the second floor. They also repeated infer there was some interaction by coworkers. No coworker has ever stated they ate lunch with him or saw him eating lunch in the first floor lunch room
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Holmes clearly states he has no knowledge of the interior of the TSBD. He also states the encounter with Baker took place by the Coke Machine. Understanding an encounter by a Coke Machine requires no knowledge of the layout of the TSBD.

The only time LHO was outside of the TSBD was when he left the building to catch the bus.

You cannot judge what people knew in 11/ 63 with what is known today. The whereabouts of all the employees is well known now, but would not have been known by LHO or anyone else with any degree of certainty. LHO inadvertently stated his whereabouts during the assassination based on what he knew at the time. Today we know he gave himself up as being on the 6th floor by stating he came down stairs to the lunch room encounter after the "commotion" referenced by him.

[Walt Cakebread]

LHO's own admissions in repeated interogations place him and Baker meeting on the second floor. They also repeated infer there was some interaction by coworkers. No coworker has ever stated they ate lunch with him or saw him eating lunch in the first floor lunch room
.
Holmes clearly states he has no knowledge of the interior of the TSBD. He also states the encounter with Baker took place by the Coke Machine. Understanding an encounter by a Coke Machine requires no knowledge of the layout of the TSBD.

The only time LHO was outside of the TSBD was when he left the building to catch the bus.

You cannot judge what people knew in 11/ 63 with what is known today. The whereabouts of all the employees is well known now, but would not have been known by LHO or anyone else with any degree of certainty. LHO inadvertently stated his whereabouts during the assassination based on what he knew at the time. Today we know he gave himself up as being on the 6th floor by stating he came down stairs to the lunch room encounter after the "commotion" referenced by him.

Wow!!.... I've seen some real idiots post in the various forums, but YOU Mr Nessan surpass them all....

[Alan Ford]

Good post about Truly's account of the encounter, but it gets worse for LHO and his mistaken admission of being located on the upper floor during the assassination.

This explains the vestibule and also the double doors as being on the second floor before the lunchroom.

The following affidavit was executed by Roy Sansom Truly on August 3, 1964.
PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION
ON THE ASSASSINATION OF
PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY

AFFIDAVIT

STATE OF TEXAS,
County of Dallas, ss:

I, Roy Sansom Truly, being duly sworn say:
1. I am the Superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository Building Dallas, Texas.
2. The door opening on the vestibule of the lunchroom on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building is usually shut because of a closing mechanism on the door

So two doors rather than two sets of doors (as per Mr Holmes). Got it! 

[Alan Ford]

LHO's own admissions in repeated interogations place him and Baker meeting on the second floor.

How many times are you going to misrepresent what's in the Hosty draft report, Mr Nessan?
--------visit to second floor lunchroom (pre-assassination)
--------lunch on one (pre-assassination)
--------then outside to watch P. Parade

No post-assassination encounter with Officer Baker in the second floor lunchroom.

They also repeated infer there was some interaction by coworkers. No coworker has ever stated they ate lunch with him or saw him eating lunch in the first floor lunch room

Why do you favor Inspector Kelley's version of this over Agent Bookhout's? Oh, I forgot------Agent Bookhout took a little nap while Inspector Kelley stayed awake to hear Mr Oswald change his story.

Mr Oswald claimed----truthfully----that he ate lunch alone in the domino room, during which time he noticed Messrs Jarman and Norman pass through. He also claimed----truthfully----that he took what remained of his lunch/coke outside to watch the P. Parade------------and hence was (as Captain Fritz let slip) eating his lunch in the presence of other employees when the assassination happened, and saw all the 'excitement'.
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Holmes clearly states he has no knowledge of the interior of the TSBD.

And yet he describes its front area to a T. Because he is recalling Mr Oswald's description.

He also states the encounter with Baker took place by the Coke Machine. Understanding an encounter by a Coke Machine requires no knowledge of the layout of the TSBD.

~Yawn~ More shameless cherry-picking......

"But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke."

Mr Holmes heard Mr Oswald mention having bought the coke from the coke machine--------a pre-motorcade event.

The only time LHO was outside of the TSBD was when he left the building to catch the bus.

You cannot judge what people knew in 11/ 63 with what is known today. The whereabouts of all the employees is well known now, but would not have been known by LHO or anyone else with any degree of certainty.

Did Mr Oswald have access to the latest newspapers? If not, how come he was able to tell the same story of a front entrance encounter that DPD were telling press on 11/22?

LHO inadvertently stated his whereabouts during the assassination based on what he knew at the time. Today we know he gave himself up as being on the 6th floor by stating he came down stairs to the lunch room encounter after the "commotion" referenced by him.

We know nothing of the sort, lol.

And once again------you are aware, I hope, that Mr Oswald was seen downstairs after folks broke for lunch. So your wild theory, based on a ridiculously forced reading of Mr Holmes' compressed account, is that Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz on the Sunday that he never came downstairs after folks broke for lunch. Good luck with that!