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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1584 on: August 15, 2021, 04:03:43 AM »
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Mr Oswald did not use the word "inside". The fact that you need to--------yet again---------put a word in his mouth that he never used tells us just how desperate you are. In his terse exchange with the reporter, Mr Oswald merely confirms that he was at his place of work at the time of the shooting. BFD.

Since 2019, of course, we know that Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he "went outside to watch P. Parade". There is only one place that is both in the building (i.e. part of it) and outside------------enclosed front entranceway  Thumb1:

Now! Consider this exchange-----------------

Mr. BALL. You asked him why he left the building, didn't you?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. He told you because he didn't think there would be any work?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you ask him what he did after he left the building?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What did he say?
Mr. FRITZ. He told me he went over and caught a bus and rode the bus to North Beckley.....................


Question! What does 'leaving the building' mean here?

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Even though I've demonstrated that not one employee which I previously quoted on numerous occasions described the front steps as being "inside", in fact they all indicated they were outside on the steps, yet you still persist in insisting that Oswald for some unknown reason would think otherwise and let's be frank here, even Oswald would have known that if he says he was on the steps that would have been a perfect alibi?

Watch all of the following video and every time Oswald is asked if he killed/shot the President, all he does is deny but if he was actually outside on the steps he would just simply say that he was outside at the time watching the President and thus beyond all doubt conclusively prove his innocence, it's a total no brainer., well to anyone with a brain that is. *smirk*
Even at the midnight press conference when he has time to prepare some sort of defence and he has the Worlds Press at his command and has the ultimate opportunity to give the perfect alibi, yet when Oswald is again asked if he shot the President all Oswald can muster is that he requests legal assistance and the reason is that he knows that he has no alibi because as we know Oswald was inside shooting the President.
Just ask yourself if YOU were outside watching the President, what would YOU tell the Press when asked if YOU killed the President? Would you speak in gobbledegook and agree that you were inside at the time even though YOU were outside, or at EVERY opportunity would YOU emphatically say I was on the steps watching the President therefore it couldn't have possibly be me! End of line.


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1584 on: August 15, 2021, 04:03:43 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1585 on: August 15, 2021, 04:41:06 AM »
Even though I've demonstrated that not one employee which I previously quoted on numerous occasions described the front steps as being "inside", in fact they all indicated they were outside on the steps, yet you still persist in insisting that Oswald for some unknown reason would think otherwise and let's be frank here, even Oswald would have known that if he says he was on the steps that would have been a perfect alibi?

So you put the word 'inside' into Mr Oswald's mouth. Shows your desperation. Thanks for confirming!  Thumb1:

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Watch all of the following video and every time Oswald is asked if he killed/shot the President, all he does is deny but if he was actually outside on the steps he would just simply say that he was outside at the time watching the President and thus beyond all doubt conclusively prove his innocence, it's a total no brainer., well to anyone with a brain that is. *smirk*
Even at the midnight press conference when he has time to prepare some sort of defence and he has the Worlds Press at his command and has the ultimate opportunity to give the perfect alibi, yet when Oswald is again asked if he shot the President all Oswald can muster is that he requests legal assistance and the reason is that he knows that he has no alibi because as we know Oswald was inside shooting the President.
Just ask yourself if YOU were outside watching the President, what would YOU tell the Press when asked if YOU killed the President? Would you speak in gobbledegook and agree that you were inside at the time even though YOU were outside, or at EVERY opportunity would YOU emphatically say I was on the steps watching the President therefore it couldn't have possibly be me! End of line.


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Already dealt with, Mr Mytton. Captain Fritz, knowing Mr Oswald had an alibi, pretended to him that he was on the hook not as the gunman but as an accessory. Hence Mr Oswald's lack of interest in telling the world he was on the front steps at the time of the assassination.

Thankfully, however, the coming to light in 2019 of the Hosty draft interrogation report confirmed that
a) Mr Oswald stated clearly in custody that he went outside to watch the P. Parade
b) this claim was suppressed because it was known to be true

Upshot: you lose (yet again)!  Thumb1:
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1586 on: August 15, 2021, 05:05:34 AM »

Already dealt with, Mr Mytton. Captain Fritz, knowing Mr Oswald had an alibi, pretended to him that he was on the hook not as the gunman but as an accessory. Hence Mr Oswald's lack of interest in telling the world he was on the front steps at the time of the assassination.

Thankfully, however, the coming to light in 2019 of the Hosty draft interrogation report confirmed that
a) Mr Oswald stated clearly in custody that he went outside to watch the P. Parade
b) this claim was suppressed because it was known to be true

Upshot: you lose (yet again)!  Thumb1:

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Already dealt with, Mr Mytton. Captain Fritz,....blah blah blah

Pay close attention this time because your inability to understand the basic facts is truly embarrassing, My post had nothing to do with Fritz, all I asked was how Oswald who has the Press recording his every word, how would Oswald defend himself when asked if he shot the President and all the ammunition Oswald has, is to deny, and he even goes on to say that because he lived in Russia he was a Patsy again a lacklustre response from someone who knows he has no alibi, but if indeed he or anyone else on the Planet Earth was in a similar predicament and having the unprecedented platform of being completely accessible to the Press, they would just outright say they had a "perfect alibi" and clearly and emphatically declare that "I watched the President as he passed by the building and if you don't believe me check the cameras or ask my workmates because I was OUTSIDE!"
And I thought that speaking to your childlike brother Alan J. was as bad as you people can get.

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Thankfully, however, the coming to light in 2019 of the Hosty draft interrogation report confirmed that
a) Mr Oswald stated clearly in custody that he went outside to watch the P. Parade
b) this claim was suppressed because it was known to be true

It was written on a piece of paper why would "they" simply suppress instead of destroy a piece of paper that "they" apparently never wanted to see the light of day? Doh!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1587 on: August 15, 2021, 05:31:04 AM »
So you put the word 'inside' into Mr Oswald's mouth. Shows your desperation. Thanks for confirming! 

No wrong again, let me repost my original post, I quoted exactly what Oswald said, see Alan the words between the "quotation marks" indicates what was said, I simply paraphrased to make it clearer to people like yourself but the fact that your pathetic unwarranted attempt to discredit me due to your lack of comprehension skills is only a poor reflection of the depths that you will descend to, in your weak continued efforts to defend your absolutely indefensible idiotic conclusions.

No, Oswald himself said he was inside at the time, don't you believe him?

Reporter:  "Were you in the building at the time?"
Oswald:  "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1588 on: August 16, 2021, 03:29:05 AM »
The WC theory suggests Oswald was suffering from “delusions of grandeur” (DOG) which could be motive for Oswald desiring to shoot the POTUS.

What if Oswald was Not the shooter , and was a patsy, yet nevertheless he DID have this DOG personality disorder?

Could this be another plausible reason for Oswald to not immediately offer his alibi upon his arrest?

The explanations offered in this thread  (IMO)  for Oswald failing to inform the public of his “out front on the steps” alibi as

1.Oswald told Fritz and Fritz told Oswald not to worry, that they were not charging Oswald with any crime just yet. Hence at midnight conference Oswalds curious “don’t know what this is all about” and “nobody has charged me with that yet” statements

2. Oswald is being careful and is waiting until he has a reliable trustable attorney who will find photographic/film evidence. Oswald fears that such evidence might be destroyed if Oswald speaks too early during this period of uncertainty in the investigation.

No.2 is not very plausible if no.1 explanation is true, because why would Oswald trust Will Fritz if Oswald has not been allowed an attorney present during such vital disclosure?

How to reconcile how Oswald could trust Will Fritz, thus Oswald making the P.Parade statement (alibi) per Hosty note, yet Oswald not declaring this alibi publicly to the press neither preceding nor after the interrogation period?

This is were the DOG personality disorder may be an answer.

In the early statements  of Oswald in Hallway preceding his interrogation, due to DOG ,  Oswald is irrationally contemplating how he can take advantage of his wrongful arrest to become famous. Thus he refrains from divulging his alibi. He will wait till getting his attorney. Oswald simply denies shooting anybody and declares he is a patsy


During the interrogation of Oswald , the DOG disorder causes Oswald to let slip just a hint of his alibi being on the steps (P.Parade statement )made in the presence of FBI agent Hosty. Will Fritz once made aware of the Hosty note, then tells Oswald that he is a suspect and will be detained but not charged just yet with any crime.

Oswalds DOG personality interprets Fritz statement as an opportunity and therefore Oswald refrains from publicly announcing his alibi, conceiving his plan to wait until attorney. The the midnight conference is  Oswalds DOG personality to some degree actually enjoying his moment of world viewing publicity, and reassuring Oswald of future fame once his attorney finds the photograph and film evidence before announcing his alibi.

It’s the DOG personality disorder that
Was the  reason Oswald did  not disclose to brother, wife , or mother, of an alibi.

In conclusion, it’s the DOG personality disorder of Oswald that the WC proposes (albeit for wrong reason)that resulted in Oswald miscalculating the possibility that the authority would Simply kill him well before any potential alibi evidence might be discovered at later date.




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1588 on: August 16, 2021, 03:29:05 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1589 on: August 18, 2021, 01:45:38 AM »
Pay close attention this time because your inability to understand the basic facts is truly embarrassing, My post had nothing to do with Fritz, all I asked was how Oswald who has the Press recording his every word, how would Oswald defend himself when asked if he shot the President and all the ammunition Oswald has, is to deny, and he even goes on to say that because he lived in Russia he was a Patsy again a lacklustre response from someone who knows he has no alibi, but if indeed he or anyone else on the Planet Earth was in a similar predicament and having the unprecedented platform of being completely accessible to the Press, they would just outright say they had a "perfect alibi" and clearly and emphatically declare that "I watched the President as he passed by the building and if you don't believe me check the cameras or ask my workmates because I was OUTSIDE!"
And I thought that speaking to your childlike brother Alan J. was as bad as you people can get.

Already explained, Mr Mytton, as well you know: Mr Oswald was manipulated by Fritz & Co. (your heroes) into believing that his claim to have been on the front steps had been verified but that he was on the hook for involvement in the assassination. The fact that you don't have a substantial counter-argument here is not my problem!  Thumb1:

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It was written on a piece of paper why would "they" simply suppress instead of destroy a piece of paper that "they" apparently never wanted to see the light of day? Doh!

The piece of paper was in the possession of Agent Hosty who------for whatever reason-------made a decision not to destroy it. What is on that piece of paper is utterly at odds with what is in the official interrogation reports. The fact that this is an utter disaster for Warren Gullibles like you is not my problem!  Thumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1590 on: August 18, 2021, 01:51:19 AM »
No wrong again, let me repost my original post, I quoted exactly what Oswald said, see Alan the words between the "quotation marks" indicates what was said, I simply paraphrased to make it clearer (~snippety snip!~)

You didn't paraphrase, Mr Mytton, you invented something that never happened: Mr Oswald's saying he was "inside" the building at the time. You need to resort to fantasy here because you're desperate!  Thumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1591 on: August 18, 2021, 01:56:43 AM »

How to reconcile how Oswald could trust Will Fritz, thus Oswald making the P.Parade statement (alibi) per Hosty note, yet Oswald not declaring this alibi publicly to the press neither preceding nor after the interrogation period?

Did Mr Buell Wesley Frazier declare his alibi to the press? No, because he felt no need to.

Same goes for Mr Oswald

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1591 on: August 18, 2021, 01:56:43 AM »