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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2024 on: February 13, 2023, 07:56:33 PM »
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Friends, there are still some details to be teased out here and there, and some jolly back-and-forth to be had, but I believe we are now at the point where we can-------------for the very first time ever------------track Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald's exact positions/movements during the assassination.

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.

We first see him here in Hughes, sipping from his Coke bottle, which he holds in his right hand-------------

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The next time we see him here is in Towner a couple of seconds later------------



(We don't see him in Bell because he is blocked by all the intervening foliage.)

The final glimpse of him in this same spot is in the version of the Altgens photograph shown live on TV by Mr. Walter Cronkite the evening of the assassination. He is caught doing once again exactly what we saw him do a few seconds prior in Hughes: taking a drink from his Coke, which he holds in his right hand:



POSITION B

Mr. Oswald, in response presumably to hearing the first loud bang, and wishing to better see what's going on down Elm St., has moved across to his left (i.e. east).

He is now here, his recognizable face hidden to history by a ridiculous and physically impossible artificial shadow that has been added down Mr. Lovelady's right side in the Wiegman frames:



By the time of Darnell, he has left the front steps.

The Weaver photo suggests he came out through that glass front door at the very last minute, and so would have stayed on those steps for under a minute in all.

Mr. Oswald claimed in that first interrogation that he "went outside to watch P. Parade", and he was telling the truth. The rest is non-history.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2024 on: February 13, 2023, 07:56:33 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2025 on: February 13, 2023, 10:34:22 PM »
Alan,

Another would probably be, as you have long suspected, the action upon the TSBD steps so clearly in view from Towner's position.

The splice is between 2+3
A little clearer, hopefully:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2026 on: February 13, 2023, 10:55:14 PM »
The splice is between 2+3
A little clearer, hopefully:


Wow, Mr. Davidson, excellent stuff!

Have you any thoughts as to what is going on there (the flapping)? I never bought the 'It's a woman in the crowd' claim.

If the splice is related to this, what might they have wanted to hide?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2027 on: February 13, 2023, 11:38:24 PM »
It's the strangest darn thing, this Towner scene



Coming to it from Hughes...............:

-------------We can see that Mr. Carl Edward Jones is still in place (& stationary) ✔

-------------We can see that the figure behind him is still in place (& stationary) ✔

-------------But what the heck is that large flapping object just east of both men? ???
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2028 on: February 13, 2023, 11:54:42 PM »
Wow, Mr. Davidson, excellent stuff!

Have you any thoughts as to what is going on there (the flapping)? I never bought the 'It's a woman in the crowd' claim.

Apropos!



This lady in black is most certainly NOT responsible for the large flapping object! Her 'handkerchief' is just film noise in Bell.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2029 on: February 14, 2023, 12:07:09 AM »
It's the strangest darn thing, this Towner scene

Perhaps completely OFF-TOPIC! (Or perhaps not................):

Question! Why were so many people standing packed together on the EAST side of the doorway , and so few standing on the WEST side? What was it about those west steps that made folks so west-averse??

Think about it. What------------other than somebody already standing there-----------might stop you from taking up your position on a certain part of the steps?
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2030 on: February 14, 2023, 01:33:22 AM »
Perhaps completely OFF-TOPIC! (Or perhaps not................):

Question! Why were so many people standing packed together on the EAST side of the doorway , and so few standing on the WEST side? What was it about those west steps that made folks so west-averse??

Think about it. What------------other than somebody already standing there-----------might stop you from taking up your position on a certain part of the steps?

We shall return to this question anon....................

But first, some other questions!

Question 1!
Why are Mr. Carl Edward Jones' clothes showing up in blue in Hughes and Towner? He was wearing beige that day.






Question 2!
Why did this same Mr. Carl Edward Jones say this to FBI on 3/18/64?
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was sitting on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building."

Question 3!
If Mr. Roy Edward Lewis had his cardigan off, what color would his clothes show up as in a color film?


Question 4!
If Mr. Roy Edward Lewis and not Mr. Carl Edward Jones were the man standing at the bottom of the west side of the doorway, and if Mr. Lewis were (with his left hand) waving his brown cardigan enthusiastically at the passing Pres. & Mrs. Kennedy, might it not look just like what we see in Towner?


Question 5!
If the beige-clothed Mr. Carl Edward Jones were sitting several steps up just east of and some distance behind Mr. Roy Edward Lewis, might not his torso flicker in and out of view from behind Mr. Lewis' cardigan just like this?



Question 6: The Summative Question!
Is this man really Mr. Carl Edward Jones? Or is he in fact Mr. Roy Edward Lewis?



I submit that he is Mr. Roy Edward Lewis.

It may interest you to know that Mr. Lewis himself has identified himself as this man (in an audio interview not too long ago). Everyone (myself included) thought he was crazy. And the mystery of where the heck he is on those steps has bedevilled researchers for ages.

I submit we've been staring at him the whole time, thinking he was Mr. Carl Edward Jones.

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'But!' I hear you cry, 'Altgens Altgens Altgens!!! It refutes your claim because it shows Jones not Lewis!!!!!!'

Indeed it does, at least in its 'canonical' reiterations.

Ah yes, Altgens Altgens Altgens. That's where the real fun and games begin...................


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2031 on: February 14, 2023, 01:46:29 AM »
Friends, there are still some details to be teased out here and there, and some jolly back-and-forth to be had, but I believe we are now at the point where we can-------------for the very first time ever------------track Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald's exact positions/movements during the assassination.

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.

In the light of what I have just posted, I must update the above:

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones Roy Edward Lewis at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2031 on: February 14, 2023, 01:46:29 AM »