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Offline Chris Davidson

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2032 on: February 14, 2023, 09:05:45 AM »
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Wiegman frames, four seconds between them:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2033 on: February 14, 2023, 01:25:00 PM »
Wiegman frames, four seconds between them:


Last couple of Wiegman doorway frames------------------------


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2034 on: February 14, 2023, 01:27:32 PM »
Perhaps completely OFF-TOPIC! (Or perhaps not................):

Question! Why were so many people standing packed together on the EAST side of the doorway , and so few standing on the WEST side? What was it about those west steps that made folks so west-averse??

Think about it. What------------other than somebody already standing there-----------might stop you from taking up your position on a certain part of the steps?

Here's one answer: common courtesy.

You won't plant yourself in a place that blocks the view of any person or persons sitting there

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2035 on: February 14, 2023, 02:30:12 PM »
'But!' I hear you cry, 'Altgens Altgens Altgens!!! It refutes your claim because it shows Jones not Lewis!!!!!!'

Indeed it does, at least in its 'canonical' reiterations.

Ah yes, Altgens Altgens Altgens. That's where the real fun and games begin...................


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Here's what happened. The authorities, in their desperation to keep a lid on Mr. Oswald's presence on the steps, made the mother of all goof-ups.

-They studied any front doorway images they had managed to get their hands on

-They saw Mr. Oswald in Wiegman: We'll have to black him out

-They saw Mr. Oswald's right arm/coke in Altgens: We'll have to deal with that

-They looked again at Wiegman: Hey, see that black guy standing at the bottom of the steps? He might be useful here. Who is he?

-They scoured some aftermath photos, and found-------or thought they had found---------this black man: Let's take this profile of his face and paste it into Altgens to help hide the Oswald bits

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-A profile pic was the best they could throw at the thing.  It wasn't perfect, as it had the man looking the wrong way, but needs must..........

-However, what they didn't know was that, in looking at the black-and-white Wiegman frames, they had misidentified Mr. Roy Edward Lewis as Mr. Carl Edward Jones!

-They did some retouching to Mr. Jones's face to blend it in, and retouched Mr. Oswald's lower arm/hand to make it look like Mr. Lovelady's left arm:



A bit of further retouching, and hey presto----------the 'canonical' post-Cronkite Altgens photo was born. The result was a hot mess, but it did the job.

Mr. Jones in 'canonical' Altgens does not refute the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps; the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps proves that Altgens was doctored

Fascinating exchange from 24:28 here. The lady questioner is quite right to point out the problem, but she hasn't worked out that the wrong man's face was used!


Mr. Lewis knew and knows exactly where he was standing at the time of the assassination. When he first saw Canonical Altgens, he must have been pretty perplexed!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2036 on: February 14, 2023, 04:07:50 PM »
Here's what happened. The authorities, in their desperation to keep a lid on Mr. Oswald's presence on the steps, made the mother of all goof-ups.

-They studied any front doorway images they had managed to get their hands on

-They saw Mr. Oswald in Wiegman: We'll have to black him out

-They saw Mr. Oswald's right arm/coke in Altgens: We'll have to deal with that

-They looked again at Wiegman: Hey, see that black guy standing at the bottom of the steps? He might be useful here. Who is he?

-They scoured some aftermath photos, and found-------or thought they had found---------this black man: Let's take this profile of his face and paste it into Altgens to help hide the Oswald bits

e.g.



-A profile pic was the best they could throw at the thing.  It wasn't perfect, as it had the man looking the wrong way, but needs must..........

-However, what they didn't know was that, in looking at the black-and-white Wiegman frames, they had misidentified Mr. Roy Edward Lewis as Mr. Carl Edward Jones!

-They did some retouching to Mr. Jones's face to blend it in, and retouched Mr. Oswald's upper arm/hand to make it look like Mr. Lovelady's left arm:



A bit of further retouching, and hey presto----------the 'canonical' post-Cronkite Altgens photo was born. The result was a hot mess, but it did the job.

Mr. Jones in 'canonical' Altgens does not refute the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps; the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps proves that Altgens was doctored

Fascinating exchange from 24:28 here. The lady questioner is quite right to point out the problem, but she hasn't worked out that the wrong man's face was used!


Mr. Lewis knew and knows exactly where he was standing at the time of the assassination. When he first saw Canonical Altgens, he must have been pretty perplexed!

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Full moon or another Chinese balloon floating overhead?  This stuff is far out even from a CTer.  Take this "evidence" to the NY Times or Tucker Carlson.  Tell them you have proven that Oswald was not a shooter and that there was a conspiracy to kill the president.  Get back to us with their response.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2037 on: February 14, 2023, 07:39:43 PM »
Atlantic Monthly might be interested. They're doing a series exposing conspiracy cults.

The guy in the red sweater ...



... appears momentarily (he's sitting or stands for the President) through some foliage in a film clip. But he must be Lovelady or Oswald?? They're so desperate to get Oswald on the steps (in front of people on the steps who would have noticed him).

~Grin~

Mr. Organ, if all you've got by way of alternative candidate to Mr. Lovelady is a guy in a brown cardigan over a blue shirt, then I'm not the one who's desperate here



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2038 on: February 14, 2023, 07:42:50 PM »
Full moon or another Chinese balloon floating overhead?  This stuff is far out even from a CTer.  Take this "evidence" to the NY Times or Tucker Carlson.  Tell them you have proven that Oswald was not a shooter and that there was a conspiracy to kill the president.  Get back to us with their response.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2039 on: February 14, 2023, 10:12:03 PM »




Mr. Lovelady in Bell is already behind and up a few steps from Mrs. Reese. He appears to be on the same step as in the later Wiegman frames (one of which I have posted above).

The syncing of Towner and Bell rules out all possibility that Reddish Shirt Man in Hughes is Mr. Lovelady:



Reddish Shirt Man in Hughes is Mr. Oswald-------------------in his reddish shirt, drinking his Coke

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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