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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2192 on: March 02, 2023, 10:08:41 PM »
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Your comparison picture is a different scale than that of the still from Hackerott's 3D.

Mr. Organ's embarrassing self-own does of course correctly identify the problem with the 3D reconstruction. The scale isn't quite right (with things in Bell being bigger than in the 3D version)---------------



--------------because an honest but erroneous assumption has been made that this (pink box) is the right edge of the west column base:



This has let to a certain squeezing in of the doorway in order to fit that assumption, with some of the resulting obvious distortions I have been pointing out.

Now! How wide west does the actual doorway in Bell go? Well, the below is I think--------with all due caution respecting angles-------quite suggestive (marks in orange are mine!):



Quite by happy chance, this suggests a location for the west edge of the west column (NOT column base) just where we see two unmoving [i.e. non-foliage] white spots in Bell:



This of course would explain how Mr. Lovelady's left side can be appearing to Bell's POV just as far west as Ms. Reese's raised right elbow:



Mr. Lovelady is a lot further east than the 3D graphic has him.

This in turn explains why Mr. Lovelady is blocked by Ms. Toni Glover in Hughes:



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2192 on: March 02, 2023, 10:08:41 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2193 on: March 02, 2023, 10:17:10 PM »
Mr. Lovelady is a lot further east than the 3D graphic has him.

This in turn explains why Mr. Lovelady is blocked by Ms. Toni Glover in Hughes

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HOWEVER! Now for my favorite bit (courtesy of the longer clip from Hughes that Mr. Organ has so kindly posted).......................

Look at this clip closely and you will see a detail that puts an end to all debate:

MR. LOVELADY LEANS OVER FOR A MOMENT AND SHOWS US THE RIGHT EDGE OF HIS RED SHIRT!



Two red shirts on the west side of the doorway------------just like I've been saying all along

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2194 on: March 03, 2023, 12:34:11 AM »
Keep your eye on the area just left of the girl on the pedestal and----------wait for it...........



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2194 on: March 03, 2023, 12:34:11 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2195 on: March 03, 2023, 01:28:08 AM »
Now you don't see him........... now you do............now you don't



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2196 on: March 03, 2023, 01:37:01 AM »
Mr. Lovelady's hand to Ms. Reese's right elbow:


About the wonky vertical scaling, I must have used the wrong 'master" frames to generate the initial fading animation I posted. This animation has better registration with the breeze blocks and doorway. I'll have a talk with the quality control guy in the morning  >:(


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2196 on: March 03, 2023, 01:37:01 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2197 on: March 03, 2023, 01:39:06 AM »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2198 on: March 03, 2023, 02:12:35 AM »
About the wonky vertical scaling, I must have used the wrong 'master" frames to generate the initial fading animation I posted. This animation has better registration with the breeze blocks and doorway. I'll have a talk with the quality control guy in the morning  >:(


Haha, and thanks indeed for this, Mr. Hackerott------------I think we're inching closer to that boring place known as Common Ground!  ;)

While I appreciate the human figures in your 3D model are not programmable for verisimilitude, is there any way of increasing the (how do I put this politely?) girth of Ms. Reese? The spatial relationship between her right elbow and Mr. Lovelady's left side is critical.

More importantly, Mr. Lovelady himself now needs to go quite a ways east (at the very least as far as the yellow arrow shows), and his posture needs to reflect the fact that (in Bell) his left arm is down in front of his body, rather than forming the easternmost part of it----------------



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2199 on: March 03, 2023, 02:20:00 AM »


What's nice is that, even at this distance, Mr. Hughes' camera is picking up the difference in tone between Mr. Oswald's shirt and Mr. Lovelady's



This moment in Hughes is literally the only time anywhere we get a color glimpse of their shirts together.

Indeed, this is the only time anywhere we ever get to see a color image of Mr. Oswald wearing the shirt he brought to work that day..............

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2199 on: March 03, 2023, 02:20:00 AM »