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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2464 on: September 06, 2023, 01:49:39 AM »
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4. Mr. Oswald--------a 'known' pro-Castro troublemaker but in actuality a govt. asset---------would become the public face/name of the outrage, the inside man at the TSBD who helped make it all happen. There would be evidence pointing to his involvement (though NOT as gunman), which fact would allow the incident to be sold to the public as a pro-Castro provocation.

I believe this evidence would have included something Mr. Oswald was to leave by the front entrance just after the (non-lethal) incident. Something political. A signature of sorts.

But Mr. Shelley (who had been working on the same false-flag operation with Mr. Oswald) dashed off the steps just after the shooting and bumped into Ms. Gloria Calvery out by the corner of the grassy area. She told him Pres. Kennedy had been shot.

Mr. Shelley is in shock. What does he do? He stops Mr. Oswald from leaving behind the something by the front entrance.

And what does Mr. Shelley, now in panicked damage limitation mode, do with that something? Why, he walks away with it in his arms, to dispose of it somewhere south of the hot zone:



The only thing left by the front entrance is the bag in which the something had been carried. It has been picked up by a woman who saw the strange Oswald-Shelley exchange:



(This bag will later, absurdly, be presented to the world as having been found by the SN window. No: the first officer to see it is Officer Marion L. Baker, whom the Darnell film shows running towards it.)

Mr. Oswald, meanwhile, re-enters the building. His Plan A (leave Dealey Plaza at once) has been trumped by the shocking news Mr. Shelley has told him about Pres. Kennedy. He now needs to take care of something else of an evidentiary nature that is inside the building.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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« Reply #2465 on: September 06, 2023, 01:58:52 AM »
Mr. Oswald, meanwhile, re-enters the building. His Plan A (leave Dealey Plaza at once) has been trumped by the shocking news Mr. Shelley has told him about Pres. Kennedy. He now needs to take care of something else of an evidentiary nature that is inside the building.

A few minutes later, Mr. Oswald is cleared at the front door by Mr. Truly--------------who knows (via Mr. Shelley?) that Mr. Oswald has been told to go meet a contact at the Texas Theatre.

After a decent interval of time, Mr. Truly 'notices' that Mr. Oswald is 'missing'. And he feeds the name of Mr. Oswald-----------his fellow good-faith TSBD facilitator on the false-flag operation------------to the cops. He does this not because he is evil but because he is acting under instruction.

Neither Mr. Truly, Mr. Shelley nor Mr. Oswald came to work this morning with the remotest notion that Pres. Kennedy's life would be in actual danger. They were no more and no less than good-faith patriotic assistants in 'Conspiracy A'------------the White House-sanctioned anti-Communist false-flag operation.

What made Mr. Oswald uniquely vulnerable to damage-limitation scapegoating once the false-flag incident became an actual assassination was the fact that he-------------alone of all the TSBD participants------------had agreed in advance to be blamed post hoc as the TSBD inside man involved in the pro-Castro missed-shots incident. Not even Mr. Oswald's 'pro-Castro' confederates on the sixth floor (the external 'floor-laying crew') would be so vulnerable: they would be out of the building before the cops got near the sixth floor. (In the event, Officer Marion Baker's quick entry complicated matters a little: he met one of that team by the rear stairs------Tan Jacket Man.)

Mr. Oswald was not set up in advance by ANYONE as a shooter, let alone as a lone nut shooter. Mr. Oswald was ASSIGNED the role of confederate in 'Conspiracy A', not the role of gunman. And 'Conspiracy A' was DESIGNED to look like a conspiracy. That was its whole point.

The ludicrous notion of LHO Acting Alone was ENTIRELY the invention of the 'investigation'. And the tone of that 'investigation' was set very early on by Deputy Attorney General, and JFK ultra-loyalist, Mr. Nicholas Katzenbach:

"The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial."

Those who had designed something that would look like a pro-Castro provocation conspiracy, now-----------in the wake of their non-lethal false-flag operation having been trumped by an actual assassination-----------simply HAD to push the opposite line: 'Oswald and Oswald alone'.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2466 on: September 06, 2023, 02:55:32 AM »
The ludicrous notion of LHO Acting Alone was ENTIRELY the invention of the 'investigation'. And the tone of that 'investigation' was set very early on by Deputy Attorney General, and JFK ultra-loyalist, Mr. Nicholas Katzenbach:

The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.

Those who had designed something that would look like a pro-Castro conspiracy, now-----------in the wake of their non-lethal false-flag operation having been trumped by an actual assassination-----------simply HAD to push the opposite line: 'Oswald and Oswald alone'.

However!

That would not be the end of the story, if Mr. Robert Kennedy had anything to do with it. As a (the?) prime architect of the false-flag operation, he knew that a genuine fact-finding official investigation would be anathema. And so he had to bide his time. He publicly endorsed the ridiculous findings of the Warren Commission. But he was determined to identify, and take revenge on, whoever had murdered his brother. The only way was under-the-radar inquiry and investigation, not anything the public would see. If elected President at some point in the future, he would be in a position to take things to the next level.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2467 on: September 06, 2023, 03:08:26 AM »
However!

That would not be the end of the story, if Mr. Robert Kennedy had anything to do with it. As a (the?) prime architect of the false-flag operation, he knew that a genuine fact-finding official investigation would be anathema. And so he had to bide his time. He publicly endorsed the ridiculous findings of the Warren Commission. But he was determined to identify, and take revenge on, whoever had murdered his brother. The only way was under-the-radar inquiry and investigation, not anything the public would see. If elected President at some point in the future, he would be in a position to take things to the next level.

Thus is resolved the hitherto baffling paradox of post-JFK-assassination Mr. Robert Kennedy:
1. A man who plays a key role in the cover-up of his brother's murder
2. A man who passionately wants to get to the bottom of his brother's murder.

Grief, guilt------------------and rage

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2468 on: September 07, 2023, 03:29:37 AM »
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Mr. Shelley tells this to FBI on 18 March 1964.

I suspect Mr. Lovelady may indeed have been seated in the doorway as Pres. Kennedy was passing. His view, however, was suddenly obscured by the energetic waving of a flag by his co-worker, Mr. Lee Oswald. An irritated Mr. Lovelady rises to his feet to see over the flag.

This would explain the fact that a standing Mr. Lovelady is not evident in Towner but is visible in the LATER Bell frames:



Bell may be showing him JUST after rising to his feet.

If so, then Mr. Lovelady may not have been as in the loop on things as I previously supposed
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« Reply #2469 on: September 07, 2023, 03:42:48 AM »


One thing that has puzzled me is the squareness of Mr. Lovelady's white tshirt here. Very different to the V-shape we see elsewhere.

Could it in fact be the flag itself, which Mr. Oswald is waving just in front of Mr. Lovelady?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2470 on: September 07, 2023, 04:02:21 AM »
I think I see what Mr.Ford sees, that white element appears to me to rather SQUARE!

And it’s BETWEEN the two reddish blobs and the right edge of that white square does appear to be slightly obscuring part of the reddish blob that right and slightly higher than the left reddish blob.

That right side reddish blob is pretty much where Lovelady was when he was NEXT to Sarah Stanton ( white shirt mass blob with both hands raised to shade her face in the Altgens 6 photo).

So this white square is either a banner or flag and I’m wondering if it meant “surrender” as in a symbolic gesture like Umbrella man was supposedly suggesting “appeasement” opening the black umbrella?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2471 on: September 07, 2023, 04:08:31 AM »
I think I see what Mr.Ford sees, that white element appears to me to rather SQUARE!

And it’s BETWEEN the two reddish blobs and the right edge of that white square does appear to be slightly obscuring part of the reddish blob that right and slightly higher than the left reddish blob.

That right side reddish blob is pretty much where Lovelady was when he was NEXT to Sarah Stanton ( white shirt mass blob with both hands raised to shade her face in the Altgens 6 photo).

So this white square is either a banner or flag and I’m wondering if it meant “surrender” as in a symbolic gesture like Umbrella man was supposedly suggesting “appeasement” opening the black umbrella?

It may be a fluke that is generating an optical illusion, Mr. Mason------------the flag just chances to be positioned right in front of the area where Mr. Lovelady's white tshirt would be visible. The eye is tricked into 'reading' the white as Mr. Lovelady's tshirt. The movement of the foliage only strengthens the optical illusion: as it gets out of the way, there seems to be revealed nothing but Lovelady-in-motion, all elements of his body moving as one. The eye does not realize that the white is independent of the body, and was there BEFORE the Lovelady shirt behind it moved into position.
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