Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Dan O'meara]

Bull. As I pointed out at least three times already, all Lovelady said was that Stanton and Shelley were standing next to him. He didn’t say in what direction.

Alan said:
 "The Hughes film shows Mr Lovelady having stood up for the limousine's arrival. He is right over by the west column of the entranceway. This places Mr Shelley unequivocally (or rather: unequivovally) on the west side of the entranceway."

You don't have a problem with this (of course) and what I said was a response to this.
What are you talking about anyway? Who is saying 'what direction'? What does this mean?
Lovelady is saying he is stood over by the west wall and that Stanton is in close proximity to him. What has 'direction' got to do with it?

[Alan Ford]

Alan said:
 "The Hughes film shows Mr Lovelady having stood up for the limousine's arrival. He is right over by the west column of the entranceway. This places Mr Shelley unequivocally (or rather: unequivovally) on the west side of the entranceway."

You don't have a problem with this (of course) and what I said was a response to this.
What are you talking about anyway? Who is saying 'what direction'? What does this mean?
Lovelady is saying he is stood over by the west wall and that Stanton is in close proximity to him. What has 'direction' got to do with it?

 

Looks like the new Mr Doyle is going to have to keep looking for that hitherto elusive dictionary that defines 'next to' as 'to the right rather than to the left of'!

[John Iacoletti]

Alan said:
 "The Hughes film shows Mr Lovelady having stood up for the limousine's arrival. He is right over by the west column of the entranceway. This places Mr Shelley unequivocally (or rather: unequivovally) on the west side of the entranceway."

You don't have a problem with this (of course) and what I said was a response to this.
What are you talking about anyway? Who is saying 'what direction'? What does this mean?
Lovelady is saying he is stood over by the west wall and that Stanton is in close proximity to him. What has 'direction' got to do with it?

Because you (and Doyle) keep trying to use this to "show" that Stanton must therefore have been "over by the west column of the entranceway".

[Dan O'meara]

Because you (and Doyle) keep trying to use this to "show" that Stanton must therefore have been "over by the west column of the entranceway".

So when Alan states:"The Hughes film shows Mr Lovelady having stood up for the limousine's arrival. He is right over by the west column of the entranceway. This places Mr Shelley unequivocally (or rather: unequivovally) on the west side of the entranceway.", you don't have a problem with this at all. But when I point out that Lovelady places both Shelley and Stanton with him you suddenly have a problem.
This is no surprise. When Mr Ford made his utterly ludicrous identification of Sarah Stanton as Joe Molina you actually supported it. When the same Mr Ford uses a shaky Wiegman frame to fraudulently attempt to show Shelley was west of Lovelady at the time of the assassination, you have nothing to say.

Are you a Prayer Man advocate? If not, what is the problem you have with proposing Stanton as the person stood in the shadows?

[John Iacoletti]

So when Alan states:"The Hughes film shows Mr Lovelady having stood up for the limousine's arrival. He is right over by the west column of the entranceway. This places Mr Shelley unequivocally (or rather: unequivovally) on the west side of the entranceway.", you don't have a problem with this at all. But when I point out that Lovelady places both Shelley and Stanton with him you suddenly have a problem.

My problem is that "with" and "next to" don't mean what you want them to mean.  Nobody disagrees that Lovelady said he was standing with Shelley and Stanton. 

This is no surprise. When Mr Ford made his utterly ludicrous identification of Sarah Stanton as Joe Molina you actually supported it.

I did?  When?  And why is this more utterly ludicrous than your "smoking fat lady"?  And how you identified both Shelley and Molina remains a mystery.  Kinda like how you identified Calvery.

Are you a Prayer Man advocate? If not, what is the problem you have with proposing Stanton as the person stood in the shadows?

Because there's no evidence that this is Stanton.  "Lovelady said Stanton was next to him" ain't it.

[Alan Ford]

When the same Mr Ford uses a shaky Wiegman frame to fraudulently attempt to show Shelley was west of Lovelady at the time of the assassination, you have nothing to say.

 

Ain't it funny how the old Doyle pattern of blatantly misrepresenting others' posts surfaces again in the posts of the new Doyle? It's almost like they're one and the same guy!

[Alan Ford]

Prayer Man in the Weaver photograph (taken as JFK is just turning on to Houston St)?



A few seconds later, and Mr Lovelady has risen to his feet to see the limousine--------------



 

[Zeon Mason]

There is photo of the bottle a front steps that indicates it’s a Dr.Pepper bottle, one with large white oval emblem on it typical of 1963 era Dr. Pepper bottles