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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #192 on: August 14, 2020, 04:53:08 PM »
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I have no need to 'pass off' anything. You lot have that market cornered.

Says the guy who thought Jackie said "Top, behind the forehead"

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The graphic is the only thing I recollected. Therefore I posted only that. And I'm not responsible for how White or anyone else chooses to sum up his lengthier description in order to fit a limited space in the overall graphic.

You are responsible for putting words into Jackie's mouth that she didn't say.  By the way, it's not a "graphic" -- it's a table.

Jackie had the best view.

'Top, behind the forehead' said she.

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #193 on: August 14, 2020, 06:02:16 PM »
By the way, it's not a "graphic" -- it's a table.

So you're going to latch onto a hyper-literal interpretation of "look down"

When did this become a Literary Forum?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #194 on: August 14, 2020, 06:50:30 PM »
Says the guy who thought Jackie said "Top, behind the forehead"

You are responsible for putting words into Jackie's mouth that she didn't say.  By the way, it's not a "graphic" -- it's a table.

That's how I recalled it. And the person who entered the sum-up in the non-graphic is the one responsible for putting words in her mouth.

Not that you're nitpicking or splitting hairs.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #195 on: August 14, 2020, 07:06:26 PM »
When did this become a Literary Forum?

When these characters start playing the semantics game as they hit the wall with nowhere else to go.
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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #196 on: August 14, 2020, 07:20:19 PM »
"Ignored"?  Chapman has no friggin' clue what Jackie said.  He reads McAdams' site, misunderstands it, and then misquotes it.  Which is what he does with all the details of the case.

'Details', or CT-authored misrepresentations, Barrister?

Chapman is waiting for that link to what MTG thinks she meant.
And what you think she meant. And for your when-the-wheels-fall-off-last-resort-cop-out 'how does that prove Oswald shot anybody?'
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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #197 on: August 14, 2020, 09:03:00 PM »
Nellie Connally and Jackie both stated that the first shot hit both men, referencing when JBC cried out Oh No No No, which Gov Connally stated he cried out when he was hit.

Neither Nellie Connally  nor Jackie Kennedy  said that the first shot hit both men.  Jackie seemed to recall that JFK reacted to the first shot but it is not clear.  She said her attention was drawn by Gov. Connally shouting.  She did not say Connally had been hit.

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The eyewitnesses state JFK reacted to the first shot.
That is a bit of an understatement.  Every witness who observed JFK's reaction to the first shot said he reacted visibly in ways that are not seen until after z223.  They recalled things he is not seen doing before disappearing behind the Stemmons sign: moving left, bringing his hands up to his face/neck, pretending to duck etc.   When you combine that evidence with the photographic evidence and the absence of any reliable evidence of a missed first shot, let alone any reasonable explanation of how he could have missed the entire vehicle from above at less than 60 yards, there is no reason at all to conclude that the first shot did not hit JFK.   But there is no evidence at all that it hit Gov. Connally in the back/armpit and fairly cogent evidence (from the Connally's themselves) that it did not.

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A large number of them also stated there was only two shots.
It depends on what you mean by "large".  It is certainly a very small proportion of the witnesses who heard only two shots - less than 10%.  As tabulated for the HSCA of 178 witnesses: 17 recalled hearing two; 7 said they heard two or three shots; 132 reported hearing exactly three shots; 6 people said they heard four shots; and 9 said they were not sure how many shots they heard. A further 7 bystanders reported hearing 1, 5, 6, or 8 shots. (D. M. Green, “Analysis of Earwitness Reports Relating to the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy”, Report No. 4034, 8 HSCA 128 at 142).


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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #198 on: August 14, 2020, 11:58:07 PM »
Three shots. Three hits. Two in the head.

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #199 on: August 15, 2020, 06:28:08 AM »
That's how I recalled it.

Sure, just like you recalled that Callaway was 12-15 feet away from his trotting man.

Which is why you’re a joke.

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And the person who entered the sum-up in the non-graphic is the one responsible for putting words in her mouth.

Nope. You’re the one who wrote “said she”.

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« Reply #199 on: August 15, 2020, 06:28:08 AM »