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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1216 on: August 05, 2020, 10:58:04 PM »
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This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

When are you panic peddlers ever going to deal with the fact that the worst death spikes from the virus began 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, and continued for several weeks?

To show how sharply COVID-19 deaths have dropped in recent weeks, and to show that the worst spikes in deaths occurred 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, below are the stats from the CDC’s “Daily Updates” site. Some states imposed lockdowns in the 3rd week of March. By late March, about half the states had imposed lockdowns; nearly all other lockdowns were imposed by April 7. Most states began to reopen in mid-May and late May.

DATE---------------NUMBER OF NEW DEATHS
4/18/2020-------- 16,987
4/25/2020-------- 15,333
5/2/2020---------- 13,046
5/9/2020-----------11,059
5/16/2020--------- 9,060
5/23/2020--------- 7,072
5/30/2020--------- 6,030
6/6/2020----------- 4,899
6/13/2020--------- 4,103
6/20/2020--------- 3,676
6/27/2020--------- 3,553
7/4/2020----------- 4,005
7/11/2020---------- 4,629
7/18/2020---------- 4,608
7/25/2020---------- 2,405
8/1/2020------------ 258

Here’s the URL to the CDC “Daily Updates” page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

"Just crazy talk"?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/13/president-trump-has-made-more-than-20000-false-or-misleading-claims/
Fact Checker
Analysis
President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims

By Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly
July 13, 2020 at 3:00 a.m. EDT

...The coronavirus pandemic has spawned a whole new genre of Trump’s falsehoods. The category in just a few months has reached nearly 1,000 claims, more than his tax claims combined. Trump’s false or misleading claims about the impeachment investigation — and the events surrounding it — contributed almost 1,200 entries to the database....

Michael, would it actually hurt you in any way, if you were to pursue a timely, mental and emotional health evaluation? If you are concerned about your medical record, pay in cash and arrange for confidentiality with the health care provider you select to perform the evaluation.

You are motivated to post what you've been posting, in defense of Trump, from very narrow influences. White grievance, AKA racism, or an attraction to the authoritarian. If you disagree, post links to a psychiatrist or psychologist who refutes the professional opinions of Mary Trump, PhD, or of Dr. Bandy X. Lee, M.D.!

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support
A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support
Science can help us make sense of the president's political invincibility.
Dec 27, 2018 - While dozens of psychologists have analyzed Trump, to explain the man's ... authoritarianism were more likely to vote for Trump in the election.

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https://www.salon.com/2020/07/22/trumps-psychosis-has-infected-his-followers-heres-how-to-get-them-better_partner/
Yale psychiatrist: Trump’s psychosis has infected his followers. Here's how to get them better
Without rallies, it’s harder to pass his contagious mental disease to his MAGAites


Jul 22, 2020 - Trump supporters enjoy a boat parade for the re-election of President Donald Trump on July 4, 2020 in Pittsburgh, ... Bandy X. Lee. July 22 ...
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1217 on: August 06, 2020, 02:13:12 AM »
This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

When are you panic peddlers ever going to deal with the fact that the worst death spikes from the virus began 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, and continued for several weeks?

To show how sharply COVID-19 deaths have dropped in recent weeks, and to show that the worst spikes in deaths occurred 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, below are the stats from the CDC’s “Daily Updates” site. Some states imposed lockdowns in the 3rd week of March. By late March, about half the states had imposed lockdowns; nearly all other lockdowns were imposed by April 7. Most states began to reopen in mid-May and late May.

DATE---------------NUMBER OF NEW DEATHS
4/18/2020-------- 16,987
4/25/2020-------- 15,333
5/2/2020---------- 13,046
5/9/2020-----------11,059
5/16/2020--------- 9,060
5/23/2020--------- 7,072
5/30/2020--------- 6,030
6/6/2020----------- 4,899
6/13/2020--------- 4,103
6/20/2020--------- 3,676
6/27/2020--------- 3,553
7/4/2020----------- 4,005
7/11/2020---------- 4,629
7/18/2020---------- 4,608
7/25/2020---------- 2,405
8/1/2020------------ 258

Here’s the URL to the CDC “Daily Updates” page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

Uh, the website notes that the numbers are incomplete. Provisional.
I just clicked:
Week ending 7/25 now over 3,000.
Week ending 8/1 up to 501

You seem confused about facts.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1218 on: August 06, 2020, 02:37:24 AM »


Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1219 on: August 06, 2020, 02:43:23 AM »
This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

When are you panic peddlers ever going to deal with the fact that the worst death spikes from the virus began 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, and continued for several weeks?

To show how sharply COVID-19 deaths have dropped in recent weeks, and to show that the worst spikes in deaths occurred 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, below are the stats from the CDC’s “Daily Updates” site. Some states imposed lockdowns in the 3rd week of March. By late March, about half the states had imposed lockdowns; nearly all other lockdowns were imposed by April 7. Most states began to reopen in mid-May and late May.

DATE---------------NUMBER OF NEW DEATHS
4/18/2020-------- 16,987
4/25/2020-------- 15,333
5/2/2020---------- 13,046
5/9/2020-----------11,059
5/16/2020--------- 9,060
5/23/2020--------- 7,072
5/30/2020--------- 6,030
6/6/2020----------- 4,899
6/13/2020--------- 4,103
6/20/2020--------- 3,676
6/27/2020--------- 3,553
7/4/2020----------- 4,005
7/11/2020---------- 4,629
7/18/2020---------- 4,608
7/25/2020---------- 2,405
8/1/2020------------ 258

Here’s the URL to the CDC “Daily Updates” page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

Repeatedly expressed sorrow? Seriously??? The man doesn’t have an empathetic bone in his body. One only need listen to him. Remarkable how Trump supporters are so similar to Trump. Just lie needlessly.

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1220 on: August 06, 2020, 02:45:43 AM »
This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

When are you panic peddlers ever going to deal with the fact that the worst death spikes from the virus began 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, and continued for several weeks?

To show how sharply COVID-19 deaths have dropped in recent weeks, and to show that the worst spikes in deaths occurred 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, below are the stats from the CDC’s “Daily Updates” site. Some states imposed lockdowns in the 3rd week of March. By late March, about half the states had imposed lockdowns; nearly all other lockdowns were imposed by April 7. Most states began to reopen in mid-May and late May.

DATE---------------NUMBER OF NEW DEATHS
4/18/2020-------- 16,987
4/25/2020-------- 15,333
5/2/2020---------- 13,046
5/9/2020-----------11,059
5/16/2020--------- 9,060
5/23/2020--------- 7,072
5/30/2020--------- 6,030
6/6/2020----------- 4,899
6/13/2020--------- 4,103
6/20/2020--------- 3,676
6/27/2020--------- 3,553
7/4/2020----------- 4,005
7/11/2020---------- 4,629
7/18/2020---------- 4,608
7/25/2020---------- 2,405
8/1/2020------------ 258

Here’s the URL to the CDC “Daily Updates” page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/

1400 people died today so quit posting your disinformation. 224,000 dead predicted by November 

U.S. averages more than 1,000 coronavirus-related deaths for ninth day in a row
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-coronavirus-aug5-update-20200805-4o36xauk5zbnlhbyzvwdm3tbrq-story.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-15/coronavirus-model-predicts-224-000-deaths-by-november

GOP is pushing bogus disinformation like this.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/watch-white-house-official-grilled-on-trumps-lie-that-children-are-almost-immune-to-19/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1221 on: August 06, 2020, 02:56:16 AM »
This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

This is what right wingers call "alternate facts" which is code for  BS:

Trump said "it is what it is" about over 160,000 dead Americans and didn't even shed a tear over the death of his friend Herman Cain who he killed at his Tulsa Death Rally.  Trump says he 'has no remorse' and then made up excuses claiming Cain probably contracted COVID-19 somewhere else. Trump doesn't care about you or all the people he killed including his own followers.

Telling people to inject themselves with disinfectant and UV lights is not reality, that is fiction. Promoting Hydroxychloroquine which is a bogus drug is not reality.

Trump attacks Dr. Fauci and ignores all medical experts claiming he "knows more than they do".

He is a lunatic and in 90 days we can vote this S.O.B. out in a massive landslide.

Your post was full of nonsense and not one thing you said was accurate.               

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1223 on: August 06, 2020, 03:28:24 AM »
"as a naval officer" still? Either way, you're pulling your hair out, that is if it's not all out already.

Trump is obnoxious, but those who hate him are more obnoxious.






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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1223 on: August 06, 2020, 03:28:24 AM »