Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

The tape exists.  We don't have to debate what was said.  Here is what Trump said when asked if he would condemn white supremacy:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  It was obscured by Wallace but the media reports are false.  If there was any doubt, though, as to Trump's position on that issue he has condemned it on several occasions.  How about asking Hiden about his record of locking up blacks, calling them "predators", speaking at the funeral of the grand wizard of the KKK, on tape mocking the accent of foreigners who he said worked at convenience stores, opposing busing (maybe Kantala will be asked about that again since she called him out as a racist)?

Donald Trump never condemned White Supremacy. Republicans claim to want claim "law and order" but attack Biden for enforcing law and order.  Pathetic. This is just more bogus conspiracy theories like the rest of the b.s. you parrot.

Trump's failure to condemn white supremacy at debate part of well-established pattern
The debate was not the first time Trump has failed to condemn white supremacy

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-failure-condemn-white-supremacy-debate-part-established/story?id=73340315

[Rick Plant]

Biden Expands His National Lead

A new CNBC/Change Research poll finds Joe Biden expanding his national lead over Donald Trump to 13 percentage points, 54% to 41%.

This is the first national poll conducted entirely after the first presidential debate.

[Rick Plant]

How about asking Hiden about his record of locking up blacks, calling them "predators", speaking at the funeral of the grand wizard of the KKK, on tape mocking the accent of foreigners who he said worked at convenience stores, opposing busing (maybe Kantala will be asked about that again since she called him out as a racist)?

 

Richard spouting off more b.s. he parrots from the lying right wing media. These clowns have nothing on Biden except for bogus made up smears. That's why they are losing in a landslide. Richard is using a racist name against Kamala Harris calling her "Kantala".

Fact check: Photograph does not show Robert Byrd; Byrd was not the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-robert-byrd-photo-grand-wiz/fact-checkphotograph-does-not-show-robert-byrdbyrd-was-not-the-grand-wizard-of-the-ku-klux-klan-idUSKBN23O2K1

[John Tonkovich]

If Trump loses in November, can he resign in the lame duck period allowing President Pence to pardon him? Like Ford did for Nixon.

Certainly a possibility, Mr Crow.
But two little problems for Trump re: pardon:
1) it's only applicable to federal crimes, not state, as I'm sure you know
2) if trump is pardoned, then he can still be subpoenaed and forced to testify, under oath, because...he cant invoke his Fifth Amendment right, based on fear of self incrimination. Which means, at least in theory, that he would have to come clean about all his cohorts. ( That means..Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric, as well as all his business and government associates.)

[Colin Crow]

Certainly a possibility, Mr Crow.
But two little problems for Trump re: pardon:
1) it's only applicable to federal crimes, not state, as I'm sure you know
2) if trump is pardoned, then he can still be subpoenaed and forced to testify, under oath, because...he cant invoke his Fifth Amendment right, based on fear of self incrimination. Which means, at least in theory, that he would have to come clean about all his cohorts. ( That means..Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric, as well as all his business and government associates.)

Thanks for your prompt and informative reply John. As a follow up do you think it is too late for the Republicans to cut their losses by cutting the umbilical to Trump? Let’s say if polling indicated they could retain the senate majority by doing so, would that be contemplated? If so, would Donald comply?

PS for Richard, let’s all rejoice that Hunter overcame his addiction. Maybe Joe can give Donald advice on how to deal with Don Jr's "erratic behaviour".

[Richard Smith]

He never said "I condemn White Supremacy". He called on his Proud Boys to "stand by". Nice try.

Idiot.  He was asked to condemn white supremacy.  In response, he said "Sure, I'm willing to do that."   If there were any doubt about Trump's position, however, he has clarified numerous times that he condemns white supremacy.  This is simply a fantasy of the crazies and fake media.  It's on tape for f's sake.  There is no reason to debate it.  Also on tape is Hiden mocking folks who work at convenience stores for having an accent.

[Richard Smith]

Richard spouting off more b.s. he parrots from the lying right wing media. These clowns have nothing on Biden except for bogus made up smears. That's why they are losing in a landslide. Richard is using a racist name against Kamala Harris calling her "Kantala".

Fact check: Photograph does not show Robert Byrd; Byrd was not the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-robert-byrd-photo-grand-wiz/fact-checkphotograph-does-not-show-robert-byrdbyrd-was-not-the-grand-wizard-of-the-ku-klux-klan-idUSKBN23O2K1

You are truly insane.  Explain how it is "racist" to call Kamala "Kantala."   I look forward to that one.

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

"The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."


— Robert C. Byrd (hero to Old Joe Hiden)

[John Tonkovich]

Thanks for your prompt and informative reply John. As a follow up do you think it is too late for the Republicans to cut their losses by cutting the umbilical to Trump? Let’s say if polling indicated they could retain the senate majority by doing so, would that be contemplated? If so, would Donald comply?

PS for Richard, let’s all rejoice that Hunter overcame his addiction. Maybe Joe can give Donald advice on how to deal with Don Jr's "erratic behaviour".

Mr Crow:  the Republicans - in their present form - live in fear of Trump. Primarily, they fear an attack from Trump, if they express any divergence from total fealty to Dear Leader. Or is it Great Leader? I sometimes confuse the monikers of the North Korean Kim dynasty.
While I have never been enticed by any of the Republican party's goals, plans, policies, etc., I must mention a few Republicans who had a moral code.
Specifically, when asked by Nixon during 1973 Saturday Night massacre to fire the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox, both Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus- lifelong Republicans - resigned, immediately, in lieu of carrying out what they believed to be  an unethical, possibly illegal act.
Sad that such Republicans do not exist today.

As an aside, supposedly, Al Haig, then chief of staff, implored Elliot Richardson to obey Nixon's order, saying, "your President needs you". Richardson, the ultimate WASP, Boston Brahmin, conservative gentleman, etc., replied: " F#%k you, Al."