Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Martin Weidmann]

LOL.  On the very day the election was called we are being told it's fine to hold mass gatherings!  Wow.  That didn't take long. No hypocrisy there.

we are being told it's fine to hold mass gatherings!

And who is supposed to have said that?

Or are you making stuff up again, as per usual?

[Martin Weidmann]

Conspiracy theories?  You mean like Russian "collusion" to influence the outcome of the 2016 election?  The single biggest fake conspiracy in history.  Isn't Hillary still pushing that one?

Isn't Hillary still pushing that one?

You really need to get over this Hillary Clinton obsession of yours.....

[Richard Smith]

126,000 new cases yesterday.
Unbelievable. 
Might be why Trump lost. ??

It was absolutely why Trump lost.  The media pushed a relentless and largely baseless narrative that Trump failed to perform some yet unspecified act that resulted in the loss of 200K lives.  The states used this as an excuse to change the voting laws to allow milliions of mail in ballots and that was the difference in the election.  A straight up election would have resulted in a Trump landslide.  They did this despite the CDC and Dr. Fauci (i.e. the "scientists") confirming it was entirely safe to vote in person.  In fact, the CDC confirmed that even "people who test positive for the virus can still vote in person."  The original CDC projections for the loss of life in the US due to the pandemic ranged from 100-200K with full mitigation.   Approximately where the matter stands.  Old Joe has propose nothing that has not already been done by Trump.   Trump's messaging on the virus was awful but he took every possible action imaginable.  Look at the state of many European countries today.  They are having exactly the same issues - and as far as I know Trump is not in charge there.  It is just another fake media narrative that was designed to influence the election.  And it worked.

[Richard Smith]

we are being told it's fine to hold mass gatherings!

And who is supposed to have said that?

Or are you making stuff up again, as per usual?

You are attempting to justify the mass gatherings to celebrate Biden's win by baselessly asserting that people were wearing "masks" and see no hypocrisy in that statement?  Wow.  Lots of people wore masks at Trump rallies.  In fact, they handed them out.  The loons and crazies celebrating last night on the streets were crammed together like sardines.  Some were wearing masks.  Some were not.  No different from the Trump rallies. 

[Richard Smith]

Isn't Hillary still pushing that one?

You really need to get over this Hillary Clinton obsession of yours.....

An attempt to distract from the obvious point by going down another rabbit hole.  Trump and his supporters were being attacked for pushing conspiracy theories in response to the election results.  I merely pointed out that perhaps the biggest conspiracy theory in history is that President Trump was acting in "collusion" with Putin to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  A totally baseless claim that Hillary and many dems push to this date.  So if anyone wants to criticize Trump for asking for an accurate count of legal votes as a conspiracy theory, they should at least have a consistent standard and condemn the reckless conspiracy theories perpetuated by the dems for the last four year.   A simple and obvious point to anyone with a functioning brain. 

[Martin Weidmann]

You are attempting to justify the mass gatherings to celebrate Biden's win by baselessly asserting that people were wearing "masks" and see no hypocrisy in that statement?  Wow.  Lots of people wore masks at Trump rallies.  In fact, they handed them out.  The loons and crazies celebrating last night on the streets were crammed together like sardines.  Some were wearing masks.  Some were not.  No different from the Trump rallies.

You may want to compare the videos of Trump rallies and those of the Biden's celebrations before you say something as stupid as this again.

You are attempting to justify the mass gatherings to celebrate Biden's win by baselessly asserting that people were wearing "masks" and see no hypocrisy in that statement?  Wow. 

No. There was nothing baseless about the assertion that people at the Biden celebrations were (for the most part) wearing masks. What really is hypocrisy is you not calling out any Trump rally (take your pick) of the past couple of months where hardly anybody was wearing a mask.

Another thing you seem to have missed/ignored is that Trump's organisation organized his rallies.The Biden celebrations were not organized, they were just people coming out to celebrate the end of the worst Presidency the country has ever had.

But I'll ask again; who is supposed to have said that "it's fine to hold mass gatherings!"?

An attempt to distract from the obvious point by going down another rabbit hole.  Trump and his supporters were being attacked for pushing conspiracy theories in response to the election results.  I merely pointed out that perhaps the biggest conspiracy theory in history is that President Trump was acting in "collusion" with Putin to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  A totally baseless claim that Hillary and many dems push to this date.  So if anyone wants to criticize Trump for asking for an accurate count of legal votes as a conspiracy theory, they should at least have a consistent standard and condemn the reckless conspiracy theories perpetuated by the dems for the last four year.   A simple and obvious point to anyone with a functioning brain. 

I merely pointed out that perhaps the biggest conspiracy theory in history is that President Trump was acting in "collusion" with Putin to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

Another dubious claim that you can only make because Mueller stopped short of going after Trump personally as he should have done. You don't really believe that, with Barr in charge, Mueller's investigation was really completed when he issued his report, do you? Btw it was called the "Russia investigation" not the "collusion investigation".

they should at least have a consistent standard and condemn the reckless conspiracy theories perpetuated by the dems for the last four year.

And anybody with a functioning brain would understand that this is just another one of many Republican conspiracy theories. Too bad that Durham is having such a hard time finding evidence for it.

[Martin Weidmann]

It was absolutely why Trump lost.  The media pushed a relentless and largely baseless narrative that Trump failed to perform some yet unspecified act that resulted in the loss of 200K lives.  The states used this as an excuse to change the voting laws to allow milliions of mail in ballots and that was the difference in the election.  A straight up election would have resulted in a Trump landslide.  They did this despite the CDC and Dr. Fauci (i.e. the "scientists") confirming it was entirely safe to vote in person.  In fact, the CDC confirmed that even "people who test positive for the virus can still vote in person."  The original CDC projections for the loss of life in the US due to the pandemic ranged from 100-200K with full mitigation.   Approximately where the matter stands.  Old Joe has propose nothing that has not already been done by Trump.   Trump's messaging on the virus was awful but he took every possible action imaginable.  Look at the state of many European countries today.  They are having exactly the same issues - and as far as I know Trump is not in charge there.  It is just another fake media narrative that was designed to influence the election.  And it worked.

The only major difference between Europe and the USA is that the Europeans have understood that another lockdown is needed to fight this dangerous virus, where Trump wanted to get rid of all lockdowns, mask wearing and open up the country, so the virus could spread even faster and infect more people.

It was absolutely why Trump lost.  The media pushed a relentless and largely baseless narrative that Trump failed to perform some yet unspecified act that resulted in the loss of 200K lives.  The states used this as an excuse to change the voting laws to allow milliions of mail in ballots and that was the difference in the election.

So, the whining and blaming others for just about everything is continuing..... Pathetic!

A straight up election would have resulted in a Trump landslide.

Can I borrow that crystal ball?

[Colin Crow]

It was absolutely why Trump lost.  The media pushed a relentless and largely baseless narrative that Trump failed to perform some yet unspecified act that resulted in the loss of 200K lives.  The states used this as an excuse to change the voting laws to allow milliions of mail in ballots and that was the difference in the election.  A straight up election would have resulted in a Trump landslide.  They did this despite the CDC and Dr. Fauci (i.e. the "scientists") confirming it was entirely safe to vote in person.  In fact, the CDC confirmed that even "people who test positive for the virus can still vote in person."  The original CDC projections for the loss of life in the US due to the pandemic ranged from 100-200K with full mitigation.   Approximately where the matter stands.  Old Joe has propose nothing that has not already been done by Trump.   Trump's messaging on the virus was awful but he took every possible action imaginable.  Look at the state of many European countries today.  They are having exactly the same issues - and as far as I know Trump is not in charge there.  It is just another fake media narrative that was designed to influence the election.  And it worked.

We agree....when challenged he decided to be a cheerleader (I suspect with the intention of keeping DJI up) rather than a leader. He put his re-election prospects ahead of the health of the nation. He displayed the pathetic human characteristics and qualities that most could see. Others followed him for reasons only they can identify.

He was a selective pressure for America, and when the light was turned on I suspect the numbers in various less attractive categories appear higher than many would have hoped exist.