Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Jack Trojan]

Gosh, imagine that! A President taking credit for something that happened on his watch, something that he strongly urged and encouraged, and something that he facilitated by ordering the FDA to wave most of the senseless regulations that usually delay a drug's development and distribution by 1-5 years! Scandal! "Narcissism"!

He's never said he's the one who developed the vaccines, only that he deserves credit for pushing along the process, an entirely valid point.

And let's remember that when Trump said in October that a vaccine was just about ready and would be distributed early next year, Biden and Harris and other Democrats mocked, scoffed, and howled.

Where are you getting this stuff? Drumpf never waved regulations that would delay the Pfizer vaccine.  Everyone developing a vaccine was fast tracking it short of intentionally infecting people in their clinical trials (except for Putin of course, who infected "volunteers" in the Russian military.)

Did you actually expect Biden and Harris to believe Drumpf had a clue when the vaccine would be ready? Pfizer didn't even know, so how would Drumpf know? Especially when he claimed the virus was a hoax and would go away in April and that we were "rounding the corner" and that no one would be talking about it Nov 4th?

BTW, how do you Trumptards know when the dear leader is telling the truth? Or do you assume he's a pathological xxxxxxxxxxx and you do the opposite of what he says? Or are you guys in extreme denial and lap up his BS and form your own alternate reality from them? I suspect it's the latter.

Stop the Steal!

 

[Jack Trojan]

Just an outrageous serious of lies.

LOL MY lies? You mean lies like Heir Drumpf spews out of his festering gob every time he opens it? You aren't actually a LNer, are you? You're a tin-foil hat CT like the xxxxxxxxxxx in chief and Alex Jones. Psst...your slip is showing and you have TP on your shoe.

[Colin Crow]

I hate to be the bearer of more good news about COVID-19, since I know liberals prefer to wallow in baseless panic over the virus, but here are more numbers that prove that the virus poses a minimal risk to most Americans.

If New York City (NYC), with its population of 8.4 million, were a state, it would be the 13th most populated state and the most densely populated state in the country. So let us look at NYC’s COVID-19 numbers to see if they tell us anything about how we should be responding to the virus. NYC’s numbers are further proof that one-size-fits-all lockdowns are unscientific and unjustified.

The age groups are the groups used by NYC’s health department. Also, NYC’s health department does its case numbers and its age-group case and death rates in increments of the rate per 100,000 people, but you’ll still easily get the picture.

All Ages
Cases: 277,558
Deaths: 24,202
Death rate: 8.72%
Survival Rate: 91.28%

Ages 0-17
Cases: 2,564 per 100,000
Deaths: 19
Death rate: 1.1 per 100,000
Survival rate: 99,999.9 per 100,000

Ages 18-24
Cases: 2,790 per 100,000
Deaths: 44
Death rate: 2.49 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,997.51 per 100,000

Ages 25-34
Cases: 3,242 per 100,000
Deaths: 228
Death rate: 12.94 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,987.06 per 100,000

Ages 35-44
Cases: 3,841 per 100,000
Deaths: 623
Death rate: 46.09 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,953.91 per 100,000

Ages 45-54
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 1,618
Death rate: 126.93 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,873.07 per 100,000

Ages 55-64
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 3,756
Death rate: 306.43 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,693.57 per 100,000

Ages 65-74
Cases: 4,275 per 100,000
Deaths: 5,805
Death rate: 670.01 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,329.99 per 100,000

Ages 75-100
Cases: 4,956 per 100,000
Deaths: 12,092
Death rate: 1,705.45 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 98,294.55 per 100,000

Notice that ages 65-74 and 75-100 account for 17,897 of NYC’s 24,202 COVID-19 deaths, or 73.95% of those deaths. So why are we not focusing our restrictions on those two age groups instead of imposing them on everyone? Why are we closing schools when children are far less likely to die from COVID-19 than they are from the common flu? We don’t close schools during flu season, so why should we close them because of COVID-19 when the risk from COVID-19 is far lower than the risk from the flu? If there are teachers in their sixties, they can take extra precautions when they’re around students or other teachers.

Notice also that NYC’s numbers debunk the myth that teens and college-aged kids are “super spreaders.” The super spreaders are people aged 45-100. People aged 0-24 are far less likely to catch the virus than older groups and therefore are the age group that is least likely to spread the virus. You can’t spread it if you don’t have it.

If you want to confirm the above numbers, here’s the link to the NYC health department’s website:

COVID-19: Data Totals - NYC Health

Are you unable to mount meaningful replies to anything I post in response to you? If not I will simply reciprocate and ignore any more of your drivel.

[Richard Smith]

LOL MY lies? You mean lies like Heir Drumpf spews out of his festering gob every time he opens it? You aren't actually a LNer, are you? You're a tin-foil hat CT like the xxxxxxxxxxx in chief and Alex Jones. Psst...your slip is showing and you have TP on your shoe.

The Moderna vaccine is a product of Operation Warp Speed.  How about you not take the Trump vaccine and let Darwinism run its course?

[Richard Smith]

A President taking credit for something that happened on his watch, something that he strongly urged and encouraged, and something that he facilitated by ordering the FDA to wave most of the senseless regulations that usually delay a drug's development and distribution by 1-5 years! Scandal! "Narcissism"!

Yes, it is narcissism. You don't ask for credit for simply doing (for once) the job you were supposed to do. This is the same guy who basically begged to be given a Nobel Prize. It's pathetic and shameless. European leaders also did their job and did the same things Trump did. None of them have claimed credit for it.

He's never said he's the one who developed the vaccines, only that he deserves credit for pushing along the process, an entirely valid point.

Wrong the cronies around him wanted him to get the credit for the development of the vaccine. Stop trying to rewrite history.

And let's remember that when Trump said in October that a vaccine was just about ready and would be distributed early next year, Biden and Harris and other Democrats mocked, scoffed, and howled.

By October he had lost all credibility after claiming in March that the virus would disappear by itself. Even if somebody makes false promises all the time, there is always a possibility that one promise actually turns out to be correct. But let's wait and see what really happens, as the companies are saying the vaccine distribution will likely not be before summer 2021.

When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN. 

[Martin Weidmann]

When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN.

If only you could manage for once to get your facts straight and not misrepresent them. Operation Warp Speed did not start until April 2020, at which time we were already in the middle of the pandamic. That's hardly "day one".

And again, you don't need to get credit for doing something that's part of your job in the first place.

Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.

Just like Trump is casting "doubt" about the election where there is none? 

The Democrats only want to ensure that the medication is safe to use. Approval by the FDA will settle that matter.

[Colin Crow]

The Moderna vaccine is a product of Operation Warp Speed.  How about you not take the Trump vaccine and let Darwinism run its course?

Again you don’t even know how Darwinism works......ffs....I already called you on this. Are my posts filtered to you and Michael G?

[Martin Weidmann]

Now we have a third vaccine that's 90% effective and it was developed completely outside the USA by Oxford/Astrazeneca in England.

So, that's two out of three vaccines that were developed outside Operation Warp Speed. Are the idiots still going to credit Trump?