Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Richard Smith]

More disinformation. California opened up the state and right wingers such as yourself refuse to wear masks just like in New York and keep spreading COVID-19. 

Your cult says COVID-19 is a hoax. Why do you care about a vaccine?   

No, the vaccine is not coming to millions of Americans.  Benedict Donal.d  passed up millions of more doses from Pfizer and we won't have it until June.

A multitude of lies.  Moderna has 85-100 million doses of the vaccine ready for the US.  The bureaucrats are holding up the distribution.  Fauci even criticized the UK for beginning vaccinations.  Incredible.  A complete incompetent who has been on the wrong side of every decision made.  Thankfully President Trump made the correct decisions and didn't rely on political hacks like Fauci.

[Martin Weidmann]

A multitude of lies.  Moderna has 85-100 million doses of the vaccine ready for the US.  The bureaucrats are holding up the distribution.  Fauci even criticized the UK for beginning vaccinations.  Incredible.  A complete incompetent who has been on the wrong side of every decision made.  Thankfully President Trump made the correct decisions and didn't rely on political hacks like Fauci.

Do you actually believe a word of what you write? Are you really that credulous?

[Joe Elliott]

And, no, the Georgia video showing apparent election fraud has not been "debunked":

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/

If you haven't learned this by now, be advised that liberal news media will lie through their teeth if they deem it necessary. They are flat-out lying about the mounting evidence of massive voter fraud in this election.

False. It is Trump and his lawyers who are lying to us:

False Claim 1: The ballots were smuggled in with suitcases.

The ballots were not in suitcases (I assume with airport tags from Venezuela) but in the regular ballot boxes, as can be clearly seen in the video.

False Claim 2: The ballots were kept hidden until it was time to count them.

These big ballot boxes were kept under tables and were clearly in plain view. It’s like saying the umbrella man kept under the umbrella, partly so he could use it to send signals, and partly because he wanted to be ‘invisible’. Big ballot boxes under tables but still clearly visible are not hidden.

False Claim 3: The observers were forced out of the building before the counting of these ballots started.

Observers were they watching the counting of the ballots the whole time.


Trump is doing the same thing dictators do when they lose elections. Claim the election was rigged against them and remain in power.

As a Republican, I will never vote for Trump. I don’t need a President for Life. God, if the American people are stupid enough to vote him in in 2024, we are lost. He will do whatever it takes while in power to assure he never loses another election. I will never vote for any candidate that supports him. I will be happy to consider voting for Mitt Romney, if I ever have another chance. He has earned my vote. But will never vote for Ted Cruz for any office. Other Senators and Congressmen better be careful what they do in the next 7 weeks or any serious aspirations of being elected President are in serious jeopardy. The moderate Republicans will never forget.

[Joe Elliott]

Trump has blown it. He could have purchased a lot more than 100 million vaccines from Pfizer, enough for half or 50 million double doses, last summer but blew it. He wanted to save a relative pittance. What to do now? Issue Executive Order “America First”, stating we have claim to any vaccines produced in America. The problem is this is not America’s private property. This is Pfizer’s private property, which they have subsequently sold to other countries. America cannot legally do anything about this. Pfizer cannot legally do anything about this without breaking their business deals.

This “America First” Executive Order can have no legal effect. Its only effect is to divert blame. Trump cannot enforce this executive order. And when Biden as well fails to enforce this illegal executive order, Trump will try to get Biden to get the blame for the months of delay in not getting the vaccine, not Trump.

[Joe Elliott]

Hi Joe,

According to Pfizer, this fraud passed up on securing millions of more vaccine doses for Americans and because of that, other counties will get those doses instead while we have to wait until June. I'm pretty sure there was some nefarious reason behind this because this con man always has some other ulterior motive.       

Yeah they refuse to wear masks but have no problem wearing their white pointy ones.

Justin Trudeau announced Canada will be receiving their first vaccine next week and millions more will be coming by the end of the year unlike the United States which will be delayed by months. So, the orange fraud had nothing to do with getting the vaccine manufactured or approved. 

All of the maga hate rallies have contributed to mass infection and death. Michigan and Pennsylvania are averaging 100+ deaths a day and these are the morons that attended the maskless hate rallies.

Canada to receive first Pfizer coronavirus vaccines next week
https://www.axios.com/canada-first-pfizer-covid-vaccines-next-week-6d1a9afc-e2f4-471a-bb58-7402742de87c.html

Hi Rick

Yes, on Trump we see eye to eye. Trump has set a much worse example than Biden. Very late in setting an example of wearing a mask. Holding mass rallies, generally without people wearing masks and shouting, while Biden did without the usual mass rallies in support of himself because of the pandemic. And compounded this error by not reserving more vaccines last summer.

[Joe Elliott]

And, no, the Georgia video showing apparent election fraud has not been "debunked":

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/

If you haven't learned this by now, be advised that liberal news media will lie through their teeth if they deem it necessary. They are flat-out lying about the mounting evidence of massive voter fraud in this election.

The liberal news media is lying to me. Ok, then let’s just stick to the claims that Trump and Giuliani have made:

Claim 1: The Dominion Voting Systems computers turn Trump votes into Biden votes. This company is widely used throughout the United States including all six of the contested states of which Trump needs to flip three or four.

Claim 2: Invalid ballots were mailed in from people who had died, or had moved, or were no longer eligible voters for that state.

Claim 3: In Georgia, ballots were brought in inside suitcases that were kept hidden. Ok, brought in inside the normal ballot boxes and kept in plain sight under tables. They were then counted.


Question for anyone:

Which of these claims are true and which are false?


It doesn’t make sense for all three to be true. If Claim 1 is true, there is no need to use the methods alleged in either Claim 2 or Claim 3. Whatever the real vote counts were, the computer program could change them to give a Biden win.

If Claim 2 is true, why use the method show in Claim 3? By this time, the bogus ballots have been mailed in and mixed in with the good ballots, leaving no need to bring in special bogus ballots?


As usual, I expect Michael to dodge the questions and not answer them. Perhaps he will give a link to a long article to imply the answer is to be found somewhere in there.

[Colin Crow]

There was a record 34K new cases in California yesterday.  A state that has had aggressive mask mandates and lockdowns for months.  More evidence that that strategy is not working.  But the Trump vaccine is coming!  The first doses have been administered in the UK.  It is criminal negligence that vaccine distribution is being delayed here in the US.  Millions of doses are waiting for some bureaucrats to act.  Every day means about 2K needless deaths.

The Trump vaccine is delivered on January 20th. As for mask wearing I posted CDC evidence from Kansas on its efficacy.

PS. California cases per million population 35,000 #41
North Dakota cases per million population 110,000 #1

[Richard Smith]

The Trump vaccine is delivered on January 20th. As for mask wearing I posted CDC evidence from Kansas on its efficacy.

PS. California cases per million population 35,000 #41
North Dakota cases per million population 110,000 #1

I guess that resolves the issue!  Mask wearing is effective and the cases are declining in CA and all other states with a mask mandate!  Right?  They are not instead hitting a record high number in CA as reported in the media today.  We probably don't even need the Trump vaccine since the head of the CDC indicated that mask wearing was as effective as a vaccine.  The crisis is over.