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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2744 on: December 06, 2020, 08:45:12 AM »
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I’m starting to wonder if the fraud was the other way.....how did an 8 point advantage to Biden in the polls turn into just a 4 point swing in the end. Maybe the Republicans ensured a few seats in the House and a better Senate result than predicted.

Lame Duck Donald and his stooge USPS inspector General Louis DeJoy dismantled the Post Office which was their attempt to steal the election by suppressing the vote. Then you had right wing judges rule that late arriving ballots can't  be counted even though the mail was 7 days slow. Don't forget they also ripped mailboxes from out of the ground, removed mail sorting machines, only had one drop box per county, and purposely mailed ballots late to voters in heavily Democratic districts. They thought they could slow down the mail enough and make it more difficult to vote so millions of votes wouldn't be counted in this election. Millions of votes weren't allowed to be counted because of their corrupt election scheme, but the vote was so overwhelming against Trump, that he still lost in a blowout. Unfortunately, their scheme did affect Senate and House races.             

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2745 on: December 06, 2020, 08:51:19 AM »
This one act of voter fraud alone may have given Biden his margin of victory in Michigan. A Dominion contractor saw about 30,000 ballots being scanned multiple times, as many as nine or 10 times, at a Detroit vote-counting center. Biden only "won" Michigan by 155,000 votes out of 5.6 million votes cast. Yet, Michigan's Democratic governor and Democratic secretary of state are refusing to take any action to investigate this report or any of the many other reports of voter fraud in the state.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dominion-contractor-detroit-counting-center-says-thousands-ballots-were

So we had tens of thousands of non-signature-verified mail-in ballots in Georgia, a surveillance video showing election workers in Georgia pulling out containers stuffed with ballots after the GOP observers were told to leave, tens of thousands of non-signature-verified mail-in ballots in Arizona and Pennsylvania, thousands of non-signature-verified mail-in ballots in Wisconsin, 30,000 ballots being scanned multiple times at one large vote-counting center in Michigan, around 200,000 ballots counted in Pennsylvania after GOP observers were refused entrance to vote-counting locations, and drastically unprecedented--and virtually statistically impossible--Democratic turnout in certain counties in Wisconsin, among other "irregularities."

Yet, shamefully, pro-Biden news outlets continue to claim there is "no evidence whatsoever" of substantial voter fraud.

 :D :D :D

More bogus right wing nonsense.

If there was any "voter fraud", Lame Duck Donald would have won every court case instead of Republican judges dismissing and throwing each one out. There is no fraud and no evidence. All these "so called witnesses are scam artists. Every single Government offical said the election was secure.       

Biden officially secures enough electors to become President
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-electoral-college-3e0b852c3cfadf853b08aecbfc3569fa

Trump and Giuliani’s star witness at Michigan hearing had been charged with obscenity
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-and-giuliani-s-star-witness-at-michigan-hearing-had-been-charged-with-obscenity-b1766853.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2746 on: December 06, 2020, 09:02:42 AM »
Today we will go over 15 million coronavirus cases. We hit 14 million just a few days ago. It adds up quick when over 200K Americans are getting sick each day and we have a failure who does nothing.

That will change in 44 days when President-Elect Biden becomes President.   

Texas had another consecutive day with 200+ new deaths

Saturday COVID Deaths

Texas:        203
Florida:         98
Missouri:      96
Indiana:        85
New York:    54

All these red states had significantly more COVID deaths than New York. New York has a lower current death rate than all these states. 
 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2747 on: December 06, 2020, 12:22:36 PM »
Trump "won"... or...

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/04/politics/georgia-county-trump-supporters/index.html
12/04/20
Tallapoosa, Georgia (CNN)Sixty miles west of Atlanta, Haralson County sits a world away from Georgia's largest and booming metro area. Here, in the small towns that sit in the foothills of the Appalachian mountains, Republican roots run generations deep. In November, the county voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden, 87% to 13% -- making it one of the most Republican-leaning areas in the state.

In the heart of the half-mile downtown of Tallapoosa, diners waited outside two food trucks and chatted about the upcoming January 5 Senate runoffs. But the conversation about next month's election began with November's results.
"I honestly think Trump did," said Ralph Horton, when asked who he thinks won the election, despite no legitimate evidence to support that belief.

Horton is not alone -- all across Haralson County, his neighbors feed off each other's inaccurate theories.
"I believe there was a little something shady going on," Cheryl Cantrell said about the election, reciting unsubstantiated claims.
For these shell-shocked supporters of Trump, it's impossible to move beyond November with a continued deluge of misinformation from the President and others.
Ahead of his scheduled visit to Georgia on Saturday, Trump has tweeted his grievances for weeks, refusing to concede the election to Biden, blaming everything from ballots to machines to elections officials. From the Oval Office on Thursday, the President thanked the Americans who voted for him -- and then shared his repeated lies about the election.
For Mark Clayton, he's not sure he wants to vote at all in the system that the President has repeatedly, and incorrectly, called "rigged."
"I really don't know. I mean, I don't know if it's going to change anything or not, it may or may not," Clayton said. "I don't know 100% what's going on or how they count the votes or whatever. It's confusing with trusting anything anymore."
But the lack of faith in the election system could turn into a Republican nightmare in the upcoming Senate runoffs -- GOP voters who choose to stay at home.
Republicans are relying on an enthusiastic base in places like Haralson County to vote for incumbent Republican Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue in the runoffs, driven by the popularity of the President.
In Haralson County, the President increased his support by about 3,000 votes from four years ago -- a trend in Georgia's deep red counties. In counties where Trump won by a margin of more than 10%, 276,622 more voters supported him in 2020 as compared to 2016.
But the President has been talking and repeatedly tweeting various conspiracy theories and lies about voting machines and the electoral process, undermining the very system that needs GOP votes in a matter of weeks.
Trump has also criticized Georgia's Republican Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger for their roles in overseeing the election in the state, which Trump narrowly lost by about 12,000 votes....

Shell shocked, maskless (selfish, direct attack on medical providers) cultists, in a land of the many uninsured and too few ICU beds (both GA and FL have refused to expand medicaid), who have donated, post election, over $200 million to the Trump University Grifter :

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-georgia-elections-valdosta-d671563fe8baac7e49d163fa2b549962
Trump assails vote integrity while urging turnout in Ga.apnews.com › article › joe-biden-donald-trump-georgia...
10 hours ago — VALDOSTA, Georgia
(AP) — President Donald Trump pressed his grievances over ... Trump's 100-minute rally before thousands of largely maskless ... about Georgia elections that voters will think the system is rigged and ...

Why People Follow a Trump (or a Hitler): Malignant Narcissism
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Frank Yeomans discusses the primitive appeal of splitting - "We're good they're bad" - and what happens ...
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2748 on: December 06, 2020, 04:29:43 PM »
The U.S. COVID-19 death rate has now dropped below 2%. As of this morning, it is 1.92% (281,000 deaths/14.7 million cases). This means the average survival rate is 98.08%.

Yet, Democratic governors have learned nothing and are once again reflexively resorting to one-size-fits-all lockdown measures. Democrats still refuse--just refuse--to base their response measures on the readily available data that prove that for most Americans, COVID-19 poses either an astronomically low risk, a very low risk, or a low risk, depending on your age group. But Democrats simply refuse to consider this crucial, profusely documented fact.

Since Gov. Gavin Panic Newsom is re-imposing lockdown measures, let's take a look at California's COVID-19 numbers from the state's department of health website:

ALL AGES
Cases: 1.31 million
Deaths: 19,800 deaths
Death rate: 1.51%

AGES 0-17
Cases: 147,807
Deaths: 2
Death rate: 0.0014% (110 times * lower* than the common flu's death rate of 0.15%-0.25%)
11.3% of state's cases
0.0001% of state's deaths

AGES 18-49
Cases: 780,365
Deaths: 1,411
Death rate: 1.11% (survival rate: 98.89%)
59.5% of state's cases
7.1% of state's deaths

AGES 50-64
Cases: 246,393
Deaths: 3,782
Death rate: 1.535% (survival rate: 98.465%)
18.8% of state's cases
19.1% of state's deaths

AGES 65-100
Cases: 135,981
Deaths: 14,612
Death rate: 10.75% (survival rate: 89.25%)
10.4% of state's cases
73.8% of state's deaths

Don't believe it? Here's the website:

https://data.ca.gov/dataset/covid-19-cases/resource/339d1c4d-77ab-44a2-9b40-745e64e335f2
« Last Edit: December 06, 2020, 04:31:51 PM by Michael T. Griffith »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2749 on: December 06, 2020, 04:52:55 PM »
The U.S. COVID-19 death rate has now dropped below 2%. As of this morning, it is 1.92% (281,000 deaths/14.7 million cases). This means the average survival rate is 98.08%.

Yet, Democratic governors have learned nothing and are once again reflexively resorting to one-size-fits-all lockdown measures. Democrats still refuse--just refuse--to base their response measures on the readily available data that prove that for most Americans, COVID-19 poses either an astronomically low risk, a very low risk, or a low risk, depending on your age group. But Democrats simply refuse to consider this crucial, profusely documented fact.

Since Gov. Gavin Panic Newsom is re-imposing lockdown measures, let's take a look at California's COVID-19 numbers from the state's department of health website:

ALL AGES
Cases: 1.31 million
Deaths: 19,800 deaths
Death rate: 1.51%

AGES 0-17
Cases: 147,807
Deaths: 2
Death rate: 0.0014% (110 times * lower* than the common flu's death rate of 0.15%-0.25%)
11.3% of state's cases
0.0001% of state's deaths

AGES 18-49
Cases: 780,365
Deaths: 1,411
Death rate: 1.11% (survival rate: 98.89%)
59.5% of state's cases
7.1% of state's deaths

AGES 50-64
Cases: 246,393
Deaths: 3,782
Death rate: 1.535% (survival rate: 98.465%)
18.8% of state's cases
19.1% of state's deaths

AGES 65-100
Cases: 135,981
Deaths: 14,612
Death rate: 10.75% (survival rate: 89.25%)
10.4% of state's cases
73.8% of state's deaths

Don't believe it? Here's the website:

https://data.ca.gov/dataset/covid-19-cases/resource/339d1c4d-77ab-44a2-9b40-745e64e335f2

Yet, Democratic governors have learned nothing

Duh, it's you who still hasn't understood that the lock downs are to stop the virus from spreading or at least to slow it down.

The rate of infections and deaths has skyrocketed after states started opening up again and the more freedom of movement people have the faster the virus will spread. Also, infected people who themselves do not show major symptoms can still infect more vulnerable people.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2750 on: December 06, 2020, 05:10:54 PM »
The U.S. COVID-19 death rate has now dropped below 2%. As of this morning, it is 1.92% (281,000 deaths/14.7 million cases). This means the average survival rate is 98.08%.

Yet, Democratic governors have learned nothing and are once again reflexively resorting to one-size-fits-all lockdown measures. Democrats still refuse--just refuse--to base their response measures on the readily available data that prove that for most Americans, COVID-19 poses either an astronomically low risk, a very low risk, or a low risk, depending on your age group. But Democrats simply refuse to consider this crucial, profusely documented fact.

Since Gov. Gavin Panic Newsom is re-imposing lockdown measures, let's take a look at California's COVID-19 numbers from the state's department of health website:

ALL AGES
Cases: 1.31 million
Deaths: 19,800 deaths
Death rate: 1.51%

AGES 0-17
Cases: 147,807
Deaths: 2
Death rate: 0.0014% (110 times * lower* than the common flu's death rate of 0.15%-0.25%)
11.3% of state's cases
0.0001% of state's deaths

AGES 18-49
Cases: 780,365
Deaths: 1,411
Death rate: 1.11% (survival rate: 98.89%)
59.5% of state's cases
7.1% of state's deaths

AGES 50-64
Cases: 246,393
Deaths: 3,782
Death rate: 1.535% (survival rate: 98.465%)
18.8% of state's cases
19.1% of state's deaths

AGES 65-100
Cases: 135,981
Deaths: 14,612
Death rate: 10.75% (survival rate: 89.25%)
10.4% of state's cases
73.8% of state's deaths

Don't believe it? Here's the website:

https://data.ca.gov/dataset/covid-19-cases/resource/339d1c4d-77ab-44a2-9b40-745e64e335f2

Without the lockdowns, there would be no emergency or IC healthcare in the most covid-19 affected areas, and you have the intelligence to grasp this reality but you are too politicized to focus on it. Doctors, nurses, respiration specialists are already pushed to the extreme. They have no family life, patients die in their arms or in no arms. Family cannot visit. These care providers have become sick and died in troubling numbers, at least one thousand, by five months agp. The long term effects of covid-19.... it does untolled vascular system damage from the kidneys to the brain, is ignored by you.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/11/third-surge-breaking-healthcare-workers/617091/
The Atlantic
COVID-19's Third Surge Is Breaking Health-Care Workers
But health-care workers do not have the luxury of looking away: ... But when an ICU is packed with COVID-19 patients, most of whom are likely to die, “to protect yourself, you just shut down ... This need not involve a lockdown.
3 weeks ago

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/publications/health-system-edition/2020/november2020/covid-19-is-linked-to-cardiovascular-complications
COVID-19 Is Linked to Cardiovascular Complications
COVID-19 has been associated with direct and indirect ... storm, which affects the blood vessels, brain, heart muscles, kidneys, and liver.
3 weeks ago

https://khn.org/news/clots-strokes-and-rashes-is-covid-a-disease-of-the-blood-vessels/
Clots, Strokes and Rashes: Is COVID a Disease of the Blood Vessels?
Those reveal that the virus warps a critical piece of our vascular infrastructure: ... may link many of COVID-19's complications: “the effects in the brain, the ... the legs, the COVID toe, the problem with the kidneys and even the heart. ... “In COVID-19 patients, we have both of these markers of dysfunction,” said ...
3 weeks ago

Chew on this.:

https://www.amazon.com/WEIRDest-People-World-Psychologically-Particularly/dp/0374173222/
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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2751 on: December 06, 2020, 06:07:38 PM »
The U.S. COVID-19 death rate has now dropped below 2%. As of this morning, it is 1.92% (281,000 deaths/14.7 million cases). This means the average survival rate is 98.08%.

Yet, Democratic governors have learned nothing and are once again reflexively resorting to one-size-fits-all lockdown measures. Democrats still refuse--just refuse--to base their response measures on the readily available data that prove that for most Americans, COVID-19 poses either an astronomically low risk, a very low risk, or a low risk, depending on your age group. But Democrats simply refuse to consider this crucial, profusely documented fact.

Since Gov. Gavin Panic Newsom is re-imposing lockdown measures, let's take a look at California's COVID-19 numbers from the state's department of health website:

ALL AGES
Cases: 1.31 million
Deaths: 19,800 deaths
Death rate: 1.51%

AGES 0-17
Cases: 147,807
Deaths: 2
Death rate: 0.0014% (110 times * lower* than the common flu's death rate of 0.15%-0.25%)
11.3% of state's cases
0.0001% of state's deaths

AGES 18-49
Cases: 780,365
Deaths: 1,411
Death rate: 1.11% (survival rate: 98.89%)
59.5% of state's cases
7.1% of state's deaths

AGES 50-64
Cases: 246,393
Deaths: 3,782
Death rate: 1.535% (survival rate: 98.465%)
18.8% of state's cases
19.1% of state's deaths

AGES 65-100
Cases: 135,981
Deaths: 14,612
Death rate: 10.75% (survival rate: 89.25%)
10.4% of state's cases
73.8% of state's deaths

Don't believe it? Here's the website:

https://data.ca.gov/dataset/covid-19-cases/resource/339d1c4d-77ab-44a2-9b40-745e64e335f2

To put this in a common context, consider that your odds of rolling double sixes with one roll of a pair of dice are 1/36, or 2.77%. Suppose you were offered the chance to win $5 million by rolling double sixes but on the condition that if you failed, your retirement account would be cut by 80%. Virtually no one would take that gamble, because the odds of winning would be extremely low. For ages 0-64, the odds of dying from COVID-19 are even lower than the odds of rolling double sixes.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2751 on: December 06, 2020, 06:07:38 PM »