Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

Seditious Donald has been permanently suspended from Twitter. Something that should have been done a long time ago.

More Republicans are now supporting impeachment but there are still traitors that refuse to support it.

Nancy Pelosi is giving Seditious Donald until Monday to resign or for Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment otherwise Articles of Impeachment will be begin first thing Monday morning.       

[Martin Weidmann]

I agree this violence should never have happened.   The 42 year old officer died after being hit with a fire extinguisher as Joe pointed out.  He collapsed later at his precinct and likely had a blood clot from his injury - very sad.      Yes, that is tragic but no officer was killed at the scene.  This march was announced long before it occurred.  Where were the police and why did they allow an infiltration into the building?  Where was the teargas and resistance?  Did the police really open up the gates or was that photo op made by Trump supporters?   

The only one killed violently at the scene was Ashley and you can clearly see this in the video, there were  4 heavily armed police with ARs nearby or on there way there.  How did the mob get past them?  The other 3 of the 5 deaths were heart attacks and that happens in any crowd of 100,000 plus.   Surely these heavily armed police should have been deployed at doorways to buildings earlier and ground stood - not inside!    The man on the other side of door, did not attempt to arrest and give warning  but chose to shoot her in cold blood to make an example.   Of course, it is always justified when you can say it was done to stop the onslaught of the mob.    Biden should give him the medal of honor and elevate him to hero status for doing that!

One of the main right wing arguments used to somehow shift the blame to others is the question being asked why there were not more police on hand, when they were warned in advance. The reply is an easy one and also a question; why did there have to be more police to secure the building when the protesters were really only protesters, and how could they have known that some of them were not protesters but rioters instead?

Protests happen every day in Washington. Up until now, none of those protests have ever resulted in a storming of the building by an angry mob of rioters. So, if this was to be a peaceful demonstration, why did there have to be riot police and National Guard on hand to protect a building that was never stormed before?

If all the protesters had behaved lawfully, the protest would have stayed without incident and 5 people would not have died. To somehow blame the Capitol police officers because there were not enough of them to stop the mob is pathetic.

The bottom line is; the rioters had no business storming the building. It is they who are responsible for 5 deaths and nobody else!

[Allan Fritzke]

The biggest problem I see is that it went out of control.   I don't think it was planned that way - it was escalated by thugs.   You could say you had similar situation where BLM marches had same consequences.  Some peaceful protestors marching  will a few that are smashing, looting and burning businesses to the ground.  Because it was the Capital buildings, it now gives the government an excuse to implement even more control since it took place on Federal property.  It appears only 2 aggravated deaths, the policeman and Ashli Babbitt and officer Brian Sicknick.  The other 3 were likely heart attacks and not from provocation - haven't heard nothing about them except that they were medical incidents.  Would you expect if you have a million people there! 
   
When you see a police man gun down a helpless woman in execution style (not self-defense), without even a warning in the video of "stop or I will shoot" - very uncalled for.  You see the gun come around corner of office  and shoot in cold blood without warning in the videos.  It is another George Floyd type killing.   Was she resisting arrest or warned?  It looked like excessive force was used.  I didn't see any weapon on her.

Oh well.  Soon utopia will be here.  Biden and Harris with the help of Sanders can ensure that the treasury is further indebted and Kruschev socialism can be ushered in to replace.  Maybe there is a Chinese version?!   Here is a brief excerpt from his UN Speech.   Will China turn capitalist or will US turn communist?   Will the CCP party win or will it be the Democrats?!

https://archive.org/stream/khrushchevinamer006997mbp/khrushchevinamer006997mbp_djvu.txt

I said that in the course of historical progress and in the historical sense, capitalism would be buried and communism would come to replace capitalism. You will say that this is out of the question. But then the feudal lords burned at the stake those who fought against feudalism and yet capitalism won out.  Capitalism fights against communism. I am convinced that the winner will be communism, a social system which creates better conditions for the development of a country's productive forces, enables every individual to prove his worth and guarantees complete freedom for society, for every member of society. You may disagree with me. I disagree with you. What are we to do, then? We must coexist Live on under capitalism, and we will build communism. The new and progressive will win; and the old and moribund will die. You believe that the capitalist system is more productive, that it creates better conditions for social progress, that it will win. But the brief history of our Soviet state does not speak in favor of capitalism.

 

[Joe Elliott]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/james-clyburn-says-somebody-on-the-inside-of-capitol-was-complicit/ar-BB1cB2Pn?ocid=msedgntp

House Majority Whip James Clyburn suggested the ease in which rioters were able to get into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday suggests that someone on the inside of the Capitol was "complicit" in the assault.
"I do believe that something was going on," Clyburn told CBSN anchor Lana Zak on Friday. "They knew where to go. I've been told … by some other Congress people that their staff are saying that they saw people being allowed into the building through side doors. Who opened those side doors for these protesters, or I call them these mobsters, to come into the building, not through the main entrance where magnetometers are but through side doors. Yes, somebody on the inside of those buildings were complicit in this."

Supporters of President Trump ransacked the building, forcing the evacuation of lawmakers who were meeting to count the Electoral College votes.
Clyburn suggested his inner office was targeted by the mob because there was "activity outside of my inner office where most people don't know where that is."

"The office with my name on the door was not touched. But the office where I do most of my work in, they were on that floor and outside that door," the South Carolina Democrat said.

Clyburn also said he felt something was "amiss" Wednesday morning when he arrived at the Capitol and "the perimeter had not been established."

"There were no security people on the steps. They were all out in a place which I thought gave low security," he said, adding, "They were not just derelict. You could say they were complicit."

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/security-fallout-in-capitol-could-be-swift-455803

McConnell said ultimate blame lies with "unhinged criminals" that desecrated the Capitol, but nonetheless suggested that the Congress would have to address the "shocking failures in the Capitol’s security posture and protocols.” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a trusted Pelosi ally who chairs the committee in charge of Capitol security logistics, said Sund misled her about the security preparations for the Jan. 6. session.

Lofgren told reporters Thursday that the Capitol Police chief assured her that all contingencies were in place and "there was no doubt they were completely able to keep us secure in the Capitol." The National Guard was at the ready, Lofgren said Sund told her.

"We were told it was all in place, it was all a go," she said. "It was just not true. They had not been called."

Ok. I no longer think there is some possibility of Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund allowing the riot to enter the Capitol. I think it is very likely. He told Representative Lofgren that the National Guard was in place and ready. Yes. All 300 of them. They would have about as much chance as the original Spartan 300. Except the National Guard 300 were placed well away from the Capitol and could not stop the all-critical initial break in. At bad as they had it, least the Spartan 300 where placed squarely in the middle of the narrow pass of Thermopylae where they could block the huge Persian army and not put out of position by hundreds of yards. And just as the Spartan 300 had a Greek traitor who guided the Persians so they can outflank the Spartan 300, it seems the Capitol Police had one or more traitors opening doors allowing the loyal Capital Policemen to get outflanked.

It sounds like Sund arranged for the minimum number to be available so he could tell people, “Don’t worry, we have the National Guard in place”. And there were others who opened doors. And told leaders of the “protesters” which side doors to go to. While many, most of the Capitol Police tried there best, got injured, one got killed, there were at a few who were helping.

[Allan Fritzke]

So this guy might have a little bit right Joe!

[Joe Elliott]

So this guy might have a little bit right Joe!

Watched first 39 seconds. Irrelevant.

[Allan Fritzke]

This is really concerning.  The new round of censorship by big Tech is going to push all the right (conservatives) into a different corner of the world - off on another platform.  2 camps are being formed and there will be no middle ground meeting, debate or conversation.

Having Biden and AOC stating what they did today has dangerously divided the country.   There is absolutely no reach across the aisle here by the left.  75 million people who will be black listed by the 85 million leftists on the other side is not good.      Communication needs to be encouraged not censored.  Freedom of speech (1st amendment) is dangerously close to being eliminated by mass censorship.   The Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank - Democracy fails and they love it.

Cuomo said "who says protesters have to be peaceful" - the list goes on.   
Ayanna Pressley says ""there needs to be unrest in the streets."   
Kamala Harris says  "protesters should not let up".   
Maxine Waters said ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere".   
Even Nancy Pelosi said "I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be...."

She may be more right than she thinks.

The left has never backed down from their stance and continue to push for country breakup.   This will force a bad situation I predict.  Here Prince Charming adds more foliage to the fire - should "maybe take them back behind in the school yard and beat them up"!  It sure looks like there is a real conciliatory leader in the making here.  Talks like a real leader!  Joseph Goebbels!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/08/biden-likens-ted-cruz-to-nazi-propagandist-goebbels-for-helping-trump-spread-big-lie-about-election-fraud/

[Colin Crow]

Watched first 39 seconds. Irrelevant.

I managed almost 4 minutes......was looking for something about the circumcision freaks, maybe it was later.

Amazing how the US did not become communist in 2008.....8 years of radical socialist leftist rule then....

Joe McCarthy lives on it seems. While you duck and cover look for some reds under your beds.