Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Joe Elliott]

Word to the wise for Alan Dershowitz. Cash on the barrelhead.

[Joe Elliott]

I still quote the federal constitution as the mainstay of how elections should be handled, senate, representative or president.   There is a procedure to be followed to amend the "manner" in which elections are to be held.  Would manner include allowing/disallowing mail-in votes, changing deadlines for receiving and the like? 

In the case of Georgia (or any other state for that matteR), it does not say it is to be decided by Raffensperger and Abrams behind close doors in a mutually agreeable fashion and then have it ruled on by a judge or state or federal court system - even if it was your sister or associate.  The constitution said there are 2 ways to change the "manner" of elections not 3.  The new precedent throws that one out the window or stretches the meaning of "the legislature"!

1) You need to bring it before the legislature and have procedures and manners decided.
2) You can go federally and  do it with congress
3) There are no other options, See rule 1 & 2!

Yes, it very "questionable" when you evoke special privilege due to COVID and use that to extend voter ballot deadlines, allow mail-in ballots and whatever other "manner" you decide you want to make.  That sets a precedent and with no SCOTUS ruling,  anyone can change rules as long as the judges in power okay it and 2 parties agree.

Did the Governor of Georgia create the position of the Secretary of State, which Raffensperger occupied? No. The position of the Secretary of State was created by the Georgia State Legislature. They created it so that there would be a person who would administer the elections. And Raffensperger was elected to his position by the people of Georgia. This position allows him tweak the rules for voting when unexpected issues come up. Like extending voter ballot deadlines due to unforeseen circumstances, like COVID-19. That is why the Georgia State Legislature created this position. So, these tweaks can be made, even within a few weeks of the election, if circumstances so dictate.

There is nothing in Georgia law that prohibits these tweaks to the election laws. Indeed, these tweaks are common in many elections.

In Florida in 2000, not the state legislature, but various county officials tweaked the election law. But allowing a type of ballot not used before. The butterfly ballot. These types of ballots had no be used before, or at least not recently. They came about because the Florida legislature expanded the number of Presidential candidates so that there were too many to easily fit on one page. These “tweaks” almost certainly cost Al Gore the election in Florida, which lost him the overall Election to George W. Bush.

Even though this tweak was not directly ordered by the Florida State legislature, tweaks like this are common. Circumstances are always causing elections to “evolve” from election to election. In no way does this mean that the vote in 2000 was fraudulent. Or that George W. Bush was not the true victor of both Florida and the national election.

Questions:

If changing the voter ballot deadlines in Georgia for 2020, done without explicit approval of the Georgia Legislature, invalidates the 2020 election in that state.
Then:
Why didn’t the use of butterfly ballots in Florida for 2000, done without explicit approval of the Florida Legislature, and never before or at least recently been used in Florida, invalidate the 2000 election in that state?

Why are not all state elections which have these tweaks, which are common, invalid?

[Rick Plant]

I don’t get it. What does Rudy Giuliani get out of all this anyway?

Nothing. Ghouliani wanted money and now he needs a pardon for his crimes.

[Rick Plant]

No surprise that racist cops joined the insurrection along with the klan and neo nazi hate groups because they are part of the maga cult. This was a planned coup and you can bet Bannon and Stone had their fingers in the pot.

Rioters Included Highly Trained Ex-Military and Cops

“As Trump’s supporters massed outside the Capitol last week and sang the national anthem, a line of men wearing olive-drab helmets and body armor trudged purposefully up the marble stairs in a single-file line, each man holding the jacket collar of the one ahead,” the AP reports.

“The formation, known as ‘Ranger File,’ is standard operating procedure for a combat team that is ‘stacking up’ to breach a building — instantly recognizable to any U.S. soldier or Marine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a chilling sign that many at the vanguard of the mob that stormed the seat of American democracy either had military training or were trained by those who did.”

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/15/rioters-included-highly-trained-ex-military-and-cops/

[Rick Plant]

US rioters sought to 'capture and assassinate' lawmakers at Capitol: prosecutors

US prosecutors now believe supporters of President Donald Trump planned to "capture and assassinate elected officials" in their siege of the Capitol building last week, according to a new court filing.

The filing, submitted by Justice Department lawyers late Thursday, sought the detention of Jacob Chansley of Arizona, the QAnon conspiracy theorist pictured in the riot dressed as a horned shaman at the desk of Vice President Mike Pence.

"Strong evidence, including Chansley's own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government," prosecutors said of the January 6 siege.

Read more here
https://www.rawstory.com/us-rioters-sought-to-capture-and-assassinate-lawmakers-at-capitol-prosecutors/

[Rick Plant]

Real leadership is finally coming. 

Biden to speak on Covid vaccinations; security concerns delay inaugural rehearsal: The president-elect takes office in five days

President-elect Joe Biden will deliver remarks Friday about his plan to administer Covid-19 vaccines to people across the country, as security concerns have postponed a dress rehearsal for his inauguration on Wednesday.

The inaugural rehearsal that was scheduled for Sunday has now been postponed until Monday because of those concerns, according to two sources familiar with the matter. Politico first reported the postponement.

Biden is expected to speak Friday afternoon from Wilmington, Delaware. He’s also scheduled to meet with transition advisers and will attend a finance event for the Presidential Inaugural Committee.

Health experts and government officials at the state and local levels have said that the Trump administration bungled the distribution of the vaccines and never had a strategy. As of Thursday, from the more than 30 million vaccine doses distributed nationwide, but just over 11 million people had received their first doses, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Over the last week, Trump administration officials finally began giving Biden's team access to critical Covid-19 vaccination data. After weeks of requesting to attend Operation Warp Speed vaccine briefings, last week, Trump officials finally allowed Biden's representatives to attend, according to a person familiar with the plans. As of Thursday, the Biden transition team has not yet obtained access to the Defense Department’s vaccination plans for the military, the source said.

Biden has said that his goal is for 100 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines to be administered within the first 100 days of his presidency, which would be the end of April.

Meanwhile, the death toll from the pandemic and case count counts to climb. For several days in a row this week, it exceeded 4,000 deaths. According to NBC News' Covid-19 data tracker, 388,599 people have died from the disease and there have been more than 23 million cases.

In other transition news:

In a primetime speech Thursday, Biden laid out a $1.9 trillion relief package that he wants Congress to quickly pass to help people who are struggling from the coronavirus pandemic. The plan would provide $1,400 direct payments and include an extra $400 per week for people who are unemployed. It would also raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.
Biden will appoint lawyer David Cohen as deputy director of the CIA, a transition team official told NBC News. Cohen previously served in the role for two years in the Obama administration and unlike the position of CIA director, this job doesn't require Senate confirmation so he can start immediately.

The committee overseeing Biden’s inaugural announced Friday morning several more speakers and performers for the primetime special that is expected to air between 8:30 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. ET on Wednesday. "Eva Longoria and Kerry Washington will introduce segments throughout the night ranging from stories of young people making a difference in their communities to musical performances. Foo Fighters, John Legend and Bruce Springsteen will perform from iconic locations across the country, joining Demi Lovato, Justin Timberlake, Ant Clemons, and Jon Bon Jovi with additional performances to be announced ahead of January 20," the committee said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-speak-covid-vaccinations-security-concerns-delay-inaugural-rehearsal-n1254381

[Richard Smith]

Your messiah can't even read from a teleprompter. The fact is current and former cops were arrested for being in the insurrection and the Capitol police let them in.

So the cops were racist as China Joe claimed? 

[Rick Plant]

So the cops were racist as China Joe claimed?

Cops were storming the Capitol with the klan and hate groups.