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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4976 on: April 12, 2022, 01:23:03 PM »
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Conservative zeroes in on why backlash over his Dr. Oz endorsement 'has got to be terrifying for Trump'



Allies of former President Donald Trump expressed dismay over the weekend when he endorsed Dr. Oz in the Pennsylvania Senate race.

Writing in The Daily Beast, conservative columnist Matt Lewis argues that the backlash Trump received for the endorsement might finally signal that the GOP base is ready to move on from him in 2024.

Lewis starts by acknowledging that predictions of Trump's political demise have been foiled repeatedly in the past, and he admits that "doing so would serve as a tacit admission that they backed the wrong horse in 2016 and 2020."

But he also imagines scenarios where GOP voters might just say it's time to turn the page even if they have warm feelings for the twice-impeached former president.

"They could also pivot to: Trump created a movement that will survive him," he writes "But he’s getting older, less 'tough,' and besides, Ron DeSantis is less chaotic and better equipped to actually win the culture wars... the idea that he’s past his sell-by date—that 'it’s time to move on'—THAT’s got to be terrifying for Trump, as he imagines a triumphant return to the White House."

Lewis also believes there's actually a chance Trump might accept this rejection without suicide-bombing the GOP in 2024.

"What I’m saying is, there’s a way for Republican voters to retire Trump in a way that preserves his ego and allows Republicans to save face," he said. "And if giving him a gold watch is what it takes, then everyone should chip in."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-backlash-over-trumps-dr-oz-endorsement-shows-his-hold-on-the-gop-is-slipping

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4977 on: April 12, 2022, 01:35:40 PM »
Russia wants their orange puppet back in office and they are openly discussing it on Russian state television.   

Russia Airs Its Ultimate ‘Revenge Plan’ for America
Battered and infuriated by sanctions over the war in Ukraine, Putin’s henchmen are plotting their master plan for revenge on live television.



As Russia’s war of aggression continues to ravage its neighbor, the Kremlin’s propaganda apparatus has been more blatant than ever in outlining the country’s goals for its biggest nemesis: the U.S.

Last week, American intelligence officials reportedly assessed that Russian President Vladimir Putin may use the Biden administration’s support for Ukraine as a pretext to order a new campaign to interfere in U.S. elections. Though AP reported that “it is not yet clear which candidates Russia might try to promote or what methods it might use,” Russian state media seem to be in agreement that former U.S. President Donald Trump remains Moscow’s candidate of choice.

The time is coming “to again help our partner Trump to become president,” state TV host Evgeny Popov recently declared. On Thursday’s edition of the state television show The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, Putin’s pet pundits offered an update on plans for 2024.

“We’re trying to feel our way, figuring out the first steps. What can we do in 2023, 2024?,” Russian “Americanist” Malek Dudakov, a political scientist specializing in the U.S., said. He suggested that Russia’s interference in the upcoming elections is still in its early stages, and that more will be accomplished after the war is over and frosty relations between the U.S. and Russia start to warm up. “When things thaw out and the presidential race for 2024 is firmly on the agenda, there’ll be moments we can use,” he added. “The most banal approach I can think of is to invite Trump—before he announces he’s running for President—to some future summit in liberated Mariupol.”

Dmitry Drobnitsky, an omnipresent “Americanist” on Soloviev’s show, suggested that Tulsi Gabbard should be invited along with Trump. Dudakov agreed: “Tulsi Gabbard would also be great. Maybe Trump will take her as his vice-president?” Gabbard has recently become a fixture of state television for her pro-Russian talking points, and has even been described as a “Russian agent” by the Kremlin’s propaganda machine.

If state television is any indication, the real agenda of the Kremlin’s operatives was never limited to boosting any particular candidates, but rather aimed to harm America as a whole. Dudakov stressed: “With Europe, economic wars should take priority. With America, we should be working to amplify the divisions and—in light of our limited abilities—to deepen the polarization of American society.”

He went on: “There is a horrific polarization of society in the United States, very serious conflicts between the Democrats and Republicans that keep expanding. You’ve already mentioned that America is a dying empire—and most empires weren’t conquered, they were destroyed from within. The same fate likely awaits America in the near decade. That’s why, when all the processes are thawed, Russia might get the chance to play on that.”

Dudakov’s Twitter feed, which he maintains despite the service being blocked in Russia, offers a glimpse into his own propaganda efforts. Tweeting as “Duderman67,” Dudakov focuses on criticizing U.S. President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and Hillary Clinton—while boosting Trump.

On his Thursday show, host Soloviev argued that Russia wasn’t fighting against the United States with full competency just yet, and griped about losing the main weapon behind enemy lines: “the brilliantly working structure of RT,” the Kremlin-funded state TV network that was banished from U.S. cable stations last month.

He then offered up his own ideas about how to influence American voters without the help of RT: “I would act through various diasporas. For example, I would work with the Spanish-speaking media—since America is becoming predominantly Spanish-speaking, with the colossal influence of Latin America, I would work through their press, through those narratives, moving in that direction… they aren’t allowing us to work with American media directly, but we have many opportunities that we aren’t using thus far.”

Appearing on Soloviev’s show two days earlier, Vitaly Tretyakov, dean of the Moscow State University's School of Television, complained that Russia: “had military hypersonic weapons, but we don’t have informational hypersonic weapons… all of our forces need to be dedicated to that. We don’t have info-weapons equal in strength to our hypersonic weapons... as opposed to what they have. You can’t survive in this world without winning an info-war. That is out of the question.”

Pundit Karen Shakhnazarov suggested: “I would find it useful to break diplomatic relations with the United States. I don’t see any point in maintaining them. And that would deliver a crushing blow to Biden. There are plenty of people in the U.S. who say that he is bringing us all to the edge of nuclear war. That will be a strong signal.”

That wasn’t the only talk of nuclear war on Soloviev’s show this week. On Thursday, Soloviev confirmed a well-known concept frequently aired on state media when he acknowledged: “De facto, we aren’t fighting a campaign against Ukraine, but against the entire West.” A parade of pundits recounted various ways U.S. sanctions are affecting the Russian economy, and the limited avenues for Russian retaliation. Soloviev resorted to pulling out his beloved trump card designed to intimidate the West: the threat of nuclear war. He asked: “Maybe it’s time we strike them? Since we’re already a pariah state, a war criminal, if everything is so bad.”

Short of nuclear holocaust, it is now clear that Russia is focusing its efforts on distracting America from its foreign policy objectives by threatening to meddle in U.S. internal affairs. Speaking about the upcoming midterm elections on Soloviev’s show last week, Konstantin Dolgov, the deputy chairman of the Committee on Economic Policy of Russia’s Federation Council, predicted that “the results will apparently not be good for the Democrats,” because of rising gas prices in the U.S. But the midterms, he emphasized, are “just a rehearsal. The main elections are further ahead and preparations for those are already underway.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-airs-its-ultimate-revenge-plan-for-2024-us-presidential-elections

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4978 on: April 12, 2022, 01:43:02 PM »
Trump's move to Mar-a-Lago handed New York prosecutors a huge gift: report



According to a report from the Daily Beast's Asawin Suebsaeng and Jose Pagliery, Donald Trump's decision to change his residency from Manhattan to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida likely handed New York prosecutors extra time to continue their multiple investigations into his business dealings.

As the report notes, under normal circumstances, investigators and prosecutors in New York have five years in which to bring charges once an investigation is opened. However, the Beast is reporting that an obscure law can be used to double that time.

With the former president attempting to run out the clock with a flood of legal challenges and maneuvers, prosecutors have working against the clock to make the case for a criminal indictment or indictments.

According to the report, "Law enforcement in New York has five years from the date of an alleged crime to officially file charges for most felonies, but under New York law § 30.10(4)(a)(i), that clock stops for up to five more years when a defendant is outside the state," adding, "That 10-year grace period means Trump’s time in the White House and his post-presidential political exile at the Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida may be gifting prosecutors much-needed extra time."

The Beast is reporting investigators are deep into "poring over thousands of spreadsheets and financial records from the Trump Organization and slowly building a case against Trump for allegedly inflating property values, lying on business forms, dodging taxes, duping banks," before adding that sources have hinted that a "team of Manhattan assistant district attorneys has considered the use of the state’s clock-stopping measure in the Trump investigation."

According to former Manhattan prosecutor Adam Kaufmann, he doesn't remember a case where the law was applied.

“You don’t often have white collar cases that are so… old. It just doesn’t happen that much that you’re trying to get something from more than five years ago,” he explained before adding, "It’s easy to prove he was not in the state of New York. There’s going to be records of where he was physically located every day for four years.”

According to the report, aides close to the former president were stunned when they were informed about the law, with several asking, "How is that legal?"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-obscure-law-new-york-prosecutors-could-use-to-charge-donald-trump-years-from-now?ref=home

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« Reply #4979 on: April 12, 2022, 01:49:06 PM »
REVEALED: Trump allies secretly pushed DHS to help change the results of the 2020 election



A Donald Trump ally who's running to oversee Arizona's elections played a key role in the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election, and he was joined in those efforts by a fringe figure who was in constant contact with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.

Arizona state Rep. Mark Finchem asked the Department of Homeland Security to conduct “a full spectrum forensic examination” of voting machines" in the final weeks of the Trump presidency, and he got the attention of the department's acting director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, reported Politico.

“We need to do a call on this today,” wrote acting director Brandon Wales minutes after receiving the request from Finchem, early on the morning of Christmas Eve 2020.

Politico reviewed the emails obtained by the watchdog group American Oversight through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit and showing attempts by Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and outside allies like Finchem to reverse the former president's election loss, and some of those individuals remain active in government roles.

Trump met in the Oval Office on Dec. 18, 2020, with supporters, including Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn, to discuss extreme measures -- such as an executive order to have the Department of Defense seize voting machines -- to change the election outcome, and Finchem's outreach to CISA appears to have originated around that time.

The newly released emails show that top CISA officials reviewed Finchem's request, which was sent through a standard online form, six days after the Oval Office meeting, and the request made its way up the chain of command over the following days and an employee whose name was redacted noted the agency conducted fact-finding on the issue with Arizona's secretary of state Katie Hobbs and the state election director.

Finchem specifically asked for help probing voting machines from CISA's Hunt and Incidence Response Teams, a term that's not widely used outside the cybersecurity world, and he asked for a company known as CyTech, which he believed was connected to Raytheon Technologies, examine the voting equipment using their CyFIR technology.

CyTech, CyFIR and their former owner Ben Cotton eventually did play a role in the effort to overturn Trump's election loss when they were hired by Cyber Ninjas to examine voting machines in Maricopa County, Arizona, in an audit ordered by the Republican-led state Senate.

Cotton copied data from the county and drove with it to a lab in Montana, and he also gave a presentation when the final report was delivered to the state Senate.

He sold CyFIR last year to eSentire and works for that company, which was aware of its role in the Arizona audit, as a vice president for incident response.

Another email obtained by American Oversight appears to show another Trump ally, which the watchdog believes to be Flynn associate Phil Waldron, directly contacted Chad Mizelle, DHS’ acting general counsel, on Dec. 21, 2020, to request a collaboration.

Waldron reportedly originated the strategy to have the Defense Department seize voting machines, and he also distributed a PowerPoint presentation urging Trump to declare a state of emergency

“It’s concerning that someone like Phil Waldron had this degree of access to DHS officials even while he and other Trump allies were pursuing dangerous schemes to reverse the election,” said American Oversight spokesperson Dera Silvestre. “It’s even more concerning that we’re only now finding out about it, over a year later.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/12/trump-ally-arizona-voting-machine-audit-00024444

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4980 on: April 12, 2022, 01:54:26 PM »
Notorious 'coup memo' author John Eastman tried to get Wisconsin to 'decertify' Biden's win — last month

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On Monday, ABC News reported that infamous right-wing lawyer John Eastman tried to persuade Republicans in the Wisconsin General Assembly to "decertify" that state's 2020 election results showing President Joe Biden as the winner — last month.

"Eastman, a right-wing lawyer who drafted a plan for former President Donald Trump to cling to power by falsely claiming then-Vice President Mike Pence could reject legitimate electors during the 2020 presidential election, was part of a small group of Trump allies who secured a private meeting last month to try and convince the Republican leader of the Wisconsin state Assembly to decertify President Joe Biden’s win, multiple sources familiar with the meeting told ABC," reported Will Steakin, Katherine Faulders, and Laura Romero.

"Eastman in the meeting urged [Assembly Speaker Robin] Vos to decertify the election, sources familiar with the meeting said," the report continued. "According to Jefferson Davis, a Wisconsin activist pushing to reverse Biden’s victory who was also in the meeting, Trump’s former lawyer pushed Vos to start 'reclaiming the electors' and move forward with 'either a do over or having a new slate of electors seated that would declare someone else the winner.'"

Vos has pushed to investigate the results of the Wisconsin election, hiring a former state Supreme Court justice to try to drum up evidence for Trump's conspiracy theories about the race being stolen. There is no evidence the election was stolen, and no legal mechanism by which Wisconsin could decertify their results.

Eastman's infamous "coup memo" outlined an untested legal theory that if Republican state legislatures in states Biden won sent "alternate" lists of Trump electors, Pence could rule neither set of electors are counted and erase Biden's electoral majority, throwing control of the White House to the House of Representatives, where Republicans controlled enough state delegations to throw the election to Trump. Most experts believed this plan to be illegal, including Pence himself, who did not go through with it.

Eastman is currently under an ethics investigation by the California State Bar, under which he is licensed to practice law.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lawyer-amid-clash-jan-committee-pushing-decertify/story?id=83965757

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« Reply #4981 on: April 12, 2022, 02:50:18 PM »
'They think he's a child': GOP pollster claims Republicans are laughing behind Trump's back



In a column asserting that there is increasing evidence Republicans can put former president Donald Trump in their rearview mirrors and move on without him, longtime political observer Eleanor Clift reports one well-known conservative pollster admitted that the GOP lawmakers privately have a very low opinion of the former leader of the free world.

As Clift points out, New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) took some very pointed jabs at the former president over a week ago, telling attendees at the annual Gridiron dinner, "He's f***ing crazy! The press often will ask me if I think Donald Trump is crazy. And I'll say it this way: I don't think he's so crazy that you could put him in a mental institution. But I think if he were in one, he ain't getting out."

As the columnist notes, the notoriously thin-skinned Trump did not respond in kind to the popular Republican governor which should hearten conservatives and wants to leave the twice impeached former president and his 2020 election loss behind.

"Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland said he hadn’t heard a Republican drop that many f-bombs since the Nixon administration. He also praised Sununu as the vanguard of a new GOP that dares to speak the truth, then assailed him for taking credit for federal spending in his state passed by Democrats while simultaneously denouncing Washington politicians for their free spending," the Daily Beast columnist wrote. "The crowd of media and political professionals, as evidenced by their enthusiastic response, seemed to sense that something significant had shifted with this fresh face grabbing the spotlight and saying the emperor has no clothes."

According to pollster Frank Luntz, who advised Republican for decades, Sununu was saying out loud what most GOP lawmakers are thinking.

“I don’t know a single Republican who was surprised by what Sununu said. He said what they were thinking," Luntz explained.

Elaborating on GOP attitudes about the former president, Luntz stated, "They won’t say it [in public], but behind his back, they think he’s a child. They’re laughing at him. That’s what made it [Sununu’s comments] significant.”

“Trump isn’t the same man he was a year ago,” the pollster continued. “Even many Republicans are tired of going back and rehashing the 2020 election. Everybody else has moved on and in Washington everyone believes he lost the election.”

Clift then cautioned that attitudes about Trump are subject to change depending on which way the political winds blow, writing, "Republicans may be laughing at Trump behind his back, as Luntz indicated, but making fun of the former president could backfire. When President Barack Obama ridiculed Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2011, the putdown was so stinging that some believe it prompted the real-estate tycoon’s 2016 bid for the presidency."

"This time around, we will learn when the votes are counted in the nearly 130 races where Trump has endorsed a candidate, testing his strength in the Republican Party to pick governors and senators and even state legislators—and testing the theories of those who say his best days are behind him, and the fortitude of those who mock him," she added.

You can read more here:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-how-the-gop-can-move-beyond-trumpism-following-chris-sununu?ref=home

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4982 on: April 13, 2022, 12:08:27 PM »
Former Roger Stone aide urged Trump supporters to 'descend on the Capitol' -- and martial law would be declared



The New York Times is reporting that Jason Sullivan, a onetime aide to Trump ally Roger Stone, encouraged Trump supporters on a conference call to "descend on the Capitol" on January 6th, 2021 -- and he said that after they did, former President Donald Trump would declare martial law.

According to the report, Sullivan told Trump supporters that the purpose of going to the Capitol was to ensure members of Congress knew that "people are breathing down their necks" and demanding that they not certify President Joe Biden's victory.

He then said Trump would declare martial law to stop the certification of the election and said he would not leave office.

“Biden will never be in that White House,” Sullivan told the Trump supporters. “That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”

Sullivan also specifically said lawmakers should feel threatened.

“If we make the people inside that building sweat and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said. “We have to put that pressure there.”

The call took place on December 30, 2020, roughly a week before angry Trump fans violently rioted at the Capitol.

"Mr. Sullivan’s remarks during the call appeared to be an effort to motivate a group of people aggrieved by the election to take direct action against members of Congress on Jan. 6, presaging what Mr. Trump himself would say in a speech that day," notes the Times. "While it remains unclear whether anyone on Mr. Sullivan’s call went on to join the mob that breached the Capitol, he seemed to be exhorting his listeners to apply unusual pressure on lawmakers just as they were overseeing the final count of Electoral College votes."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-riot-sullivan-trump.html

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« Reply #4983 on: April 13, 2022, 12:12:09 PM »
Prosecutors 'may soon reach a charging decision' on Rudy Giuliani: CNN

Former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani recently met with federal prosecutors and unlocked several of his own devices for them -- and now CNN reports that they could reach a decision on whether to charge him with crimes "soon."

CNN's sources say that Giuliani in recent weeks "met with prosecutors and during the meeting he assisted them in unlocking three devices that investigators had been unable to open."

Federal prosecutors seized 18 different devices during a raid on his office last year as part of an investigation into his lobbying activities in Ukraine.

The interest in Giuliani's lobbying activities relates to his efforts to push the Ukrainian government in 2019 to publicly announce investigations into Joe Biden, who at the time was seen as a top potential challenger to former President Donald Trump's reelection bid.

"Prosecutors are investigating whether Giuliani violated US foreign lobbying laws when he sought the ouster of the US ambassador to Ukraine and an investigation into Joe Biden and his son Hunter," CNN writes. "Prosecutors are exploring whether Giuliani was working on behalf of Ukrainian officials at the same time he was pursuing those efforts as then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney, people familiar with the investigation said."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/rudy-giuliani-phone-unlock/index.html

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