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« Reply #5032 on: April 25, 2022, 12:27:06 PM »
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Evangelicals and 'Christian righteousness' power Trump's delusions of election fraud: NYT



As Donald Trump continues to lie about the 2020 election he lost, his conspiracy theories are finding a home in some white, Evangelical churches, The New York Times reported Sunday.

"Evangelical churches have long been powerful vehicles for grass-roots activism and influence on the American right, mobilized around issues like abortion and gay marriage. Now, some of those churches have embraced a new cause: promoting Donald J. Trump’s false claim that the 2020 election was stolen," the newspaper reported. "They have opened their church doors to speakers promoting discredited theories about overturning President Joe Biden’s victory and lent a veneer of spiritual authority to activists who often wrap themselves in the language of Christian righteousness. For these church leaders, Trump’s narrative of the 2020 election has become a prominent strain in an apocalyptic vision of the left running amok."

Trump repeatedly pushed his "big lie" of election fraud at a SaPersonay rally with J.D. Vance in Ohio.

"Still, surveys show that the belief in a fraudulent election retains a firm hold on white evangelical churchgoers overall, Mr. Trump’s most loyal constituency in 2020. A poll released in November by the Public Religion Research Institute found that 60 percent of white evangelical respondents continued to believe that the election was stolen — a far higher share than other Christian groups of any race," the newspaper reported. "Shortly after the election was called for Mr. Biden, Paula White, a Florida televangelist who served as the White House faith adviser during Mr. Trump’s presidency, led a prayer service in which she and others called upon God to overturn the election."

One prominent evangelical pastor has ties to Jan. 6.

"Greg Locke, a preacher who leads the Global Vision Bible Church in Mount Juliet, Tenn., spoke alongside Alex Jones of Infowars at a 'Rally for Revival' demonstration in Washington the night before the Jan. 6 attack. Mr. Locke offered a prayer for the Proud Boys, the violent far-right group, and for Enrique Tarrio, the organization’s leader who has since been indicted on charges of conspiracy for his role in the Capitol insurrection," the newspaper reported. "Mr. Locke — whose congregation is relatively small, but who claims a social media audience in the millions — is one of more than a dozen pastors who have appeared onstage at the ReAwaken America Tour: a traveling roadshow that has featured far-right Republican politicians, anti-vaccine activists, election conspiracists and Trumpworld personalities, including Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a central figure in the effort to overturn the election in late 2020."

At a rally earlier this month in Michigan, the opening prayer was given by a preacher claiming, "Father in heaven, we firmly believe that Donald J. Trump is current and true president of the United States."

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Thousands of Christian nationalists gathered at Oral Roberts University Thursday night for an special "Flashpoint" broadcast that featured multiple rants about how the 2020 election was supposedly stolen from Trump, such as this one from host Gene Bailey. https://bit.ly/3L49yp0

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/us/politics/evangelical-churches-trump-election.html

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« Reply #5033 on: April 25, 2022, 12:30:05 PM »
Piers Morgan says Trump is 'pathological' after election clash: 'He called me a fool seven times'

Fox Nation host Piers Morgan on Sunday revealed new details to explain why former President Donald Trump stormed off during an interview about the 2020 election.

For his part, Trump has claimed that Morgan deceptively edited a promotion for the interview, which is set to air on Monday. But Morgan said that Trump became upset because the two men disagreed about the outcome of the 2020 election.

"He was very angry, quite profane in parts," Morgan recalled. "And he was reading out these things, one by one, and saying, 'How can you say these things about me? This is so disloyal after all I've done for you.' I said, 'Look, I didn't agree with what you were doing.'"

"When we got around to the election results and to Jan. 6, I just looked him straight in the eye and said I want to be clear with you, I do not agree that you had this election stolen or that it was rigged," the British host said. "And at that point, the fuse kind of went with him and he started insulting me. He called me a fool seven times."

Morgan said that he told Trump there is no "hard evidence" that the election was rigged against him.

"He couldn't accept that," he explained. "He has a kind of blind, pathological belief that it was taken from him."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5034 on: April 25, 2022, 02:03:46 PM »
At his rally on SaPersonay night, Criminal Donald struggled to pronounce the name of his own social network platform, slurring his words with several consecutive mispronunciations like "Troth Sential". In the past few years, his gaffes and slurs were usually corrected on his second attempt. Now, he often can't even correct the first slur as he slurs his second attempt. Donnie's condition is worsening, his health is rapidly deteriorating and he appears to be in serious cognitive decline.   

In the fifteen months since Donnie was forced out of office, his handlers have seemingly worked hard to keep him out of the public view as much as possible. He holds relatively few rallies, even though they’re his favorite thing to do in politics. And he very rarely does mainstream media interviews, even though they’re the only way he has left for speaking directly to the public.

A few days ago, Criminal Donald sat down for a rare on-camera mainstream media interview with Piers Morgan. This was a mistake, given that Morgan is only ever looking to stir up controversy. It also appears to have gone very poorly, based on the video clip Morgan has released in which a flustered and overmatched Criminal Donald angrily got up and walked out on the interview while muttering to himself and shouting at the production crew to "turn off the cameras".

Now Criminal Donald has held a rally this weekend, ostensibly to try to help one of his handpicked Republican primary candidates. But in a reminder of just how far gone Donnie is, he failed in multiple attempts at saying the name of his own failed social network:

Watch Here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1518209203952881669

Criminal Donald is not someone with a stutter or chronic speech impediment. This is someone who’s simply so far gone, he doesn’t even seem to know what he’s trying to say. If Donnie has a purely physical health condition that’s causing him to decline this badly, the media should demand that he disclose what it is, since he’s pretending like he’s a 2024 candidate. And if Donnie refuses to do so, then it’ll be fair to presume that he’s suffering from a serious cognitive health condition. This guy isn’t within a million miles of being in shape to try to run in 2024. No wonder his handlers have spent all this time trying so hard to keep him hidden as much as possible. If Donnie keeps running his mouth like this in public, the jig may soon be up.

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« Reply #5035 on: April 25, 2022, 02:45:10 PM »
Video shows Donald Trump struggling to say the name of his own social media platform, Truth Social
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5036 on: April 25, 2022, 11:05:02 PM »
N.Y. judge holds Trump in contempt for failing to produce documents in attorney general probe

Trump will be fined $10,000 a day until he complies with the judge’s order to produce the documents.



A New York state judge on Monday found Donald Trump in civil contempt of court and ordered him to pay $10,000 a day until he turns over documents that have been subpoenaed by the state attorney general's office.

Attorney General Letitia James had sought the fine as a way to force the former president to turn over documents her investigators say they need as part of their civil probe into the Trump Organization's business practices.

In a pair of tweets, James hailed Justice Arthur Engoron's ruling as "a major victory."

"Today, justice prevailed. Our investigation into Donald Trump and the Trump Organization’s financial dealings will continue undeterred because no one is above the law," James wrote.

The judge didn’t address in his oral ruling whether or not the $10,000-a-day fine was retroactive to the date Trump was supposed to have turned over the documents — March 31 — or if the clock would start running on Monday.

He was expected to issue a written ruling by Tuesday.

Trump lawyer Alina Habba said, “We respectfully disagree with the court’s decision" and "intend to appeal."

"All documents responsive to the subpoena were produced to the attorney general months ago," Habba said in a statement.

In a court filing earlier this month, James' office said Trump had been trying to stonewall their long-running investigation into whether he and his company manipulated financial statements.

In court filings, her office alleged that it has “uncovered substantial evidence establishing numerous misrepresentations in Mr. Trump’s financial statements provided to banks, insurers, and the Internal Revenue Service.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-judge-holds-trump-contempt-produce-documents-attorney-general-probe-rcna25875

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« Reply #5037 on: April 25, 2022, 11:18:37 PM »
Mark Meadows ain't laughing now. He's up to his eyebrows in a criminal conspiracy. This entire coup and the 1/6 violent insurrection was premeditated, pre-planned, and coordinated by Criminal Donald, his henchmen, and right wing Republicans in Congress and state legislatures across America. They all knew it was illegal but they went ahead with it anyway because they wanted to keep a deranged orange lunatic in power.   

Trump allies' secret work to overturn 2020 election detailed in new text messages

The text messages, obtained by CNN, help illuminate how far the Trump White House and its allies secretly tried to go to overturn the 2020 election.



WASHINGTON — A new tranche of text messages published Monday between former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and allies of former President Donald Trump sent in the months after the 2020 election offer new insight into the efforts to overturn Joe Biden's election victory.

The text messages, obtained by CNN, help illuminate how far the Trump White House and its allies secretly tried to go to overturn the 2020 election, including failed efforts by Meadows to contact Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

The 2,319 text messages were provided by Meadows to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. CNN did not say how it obtained the messages, some of which were published on the news organization's website.

NBC News has not been able to independently confirm all of the text messages. The Jan. 6 committee refused to confirm the veracity of the texts or to comment on them. NBC News has also reached out to those who sent or received texts, including a representative for Meadows, and not received responses from most.

The text messages offer another glimpse into the inner workings of the White House after Trump lost the 2020 election and then as the Jan. 6 riot unfolded. Publicly, Trump and his allies were working to overturn his election defeat by convincing state officials in places like Georgia and Arizona to negate the will of their voters, but behind closed doors, the effort was even more frantic.

The messages also show how efforts to substantiate conspiracy theories that were fomented on the internet were circulating in the White House and a fixation of Trump himself.

Several days after Biden was declared the winner, Trump political aide Jason Miller texted Meadows on Nov. 13, 2020, flagging that he had e-mailed him a "backgrounder" on Dominion Voting Systems, which sells voting software and machines.

"Lots there re: functionality problems, not much there on Dem/Soros conspiracy connections," Miller texted Meadows. "Will defer to you on whether or not to share full report with POTUS. POTUS is clearly hyped up on them, not just from his tweets, but he also called me and Justin separately last night to complain."

Miller did not respond to a request for comment on his texts.

Businessman Mike Lindell, a prominent Trump supporter who owns My Pillow, confirmed that he sent a lengthy text message to Meadows that was published by CNN. He added he also sent Meadows a PDF that included claims that Russia and China, among other countries and private companies, hacked into voting machines.

Meadows responded, "I am not an attorney. I don’t have the expertise to weigh in on any of this," according to Lindell.

On Nov. 19, 2020, more than a month before a phone call in which Trump begged Raffensperger to find 11,780 votes to recalculate in his favor, Meadows texted Raffensperger asking him to call him.

A spokesman for Raffensperger said Monday he had no recollection of receiving that message.

In early December, Meadows texted Raffensperger again, "mr Secretary. Can you call the White House switchboard at 202 757 6000. For a call. Your voicemail is full."

Raffensperger did recall getting that message, a spokesman said. Raffensberger believed the message wasn’t genuine — possibly a prank — and did not respond, the spokesman said.

Republicans in Congress also discussed with Meadows their plans to object to the certification of the election results on Jan. 6.

On Dec. 30, 2020, Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, texted Meadows a Politico story and said, "Dems and some Republicans may well try to shortstop our objection efforts. Hoping the VP sticks with us."

The following day, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who had been elected to Congress but not yet sworn into office, texted Meadows saying that they had to "get organized for the 6th."

"I would like to meet with Rudy Giuliani again. We didn’t get to speak with him long. Also anyone who can help. We are getting a lot of members on board. And we need to lay out the best case for each state," Greene, R-Ga., wrote.

Greene's congressional office did not respond to a request for comment.

A day before the Jan. 6 riot, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, texted Meadows that Vice President Mike Pence "should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all -- in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence."

"I have pushed for this. Not sure it is going to happen," Meadows responded on Jan. 6.

Jordan's congressional office did not respond to a request for comment.

On the day of the attack, a number of GOP lawmakers, family members and former Trump aides texted Meadows calling on him to get Trump to stop the riot.

Trump’s former chief of staff Mick Mulvaney texted Meadows, “Mark: he needs to stop this, now. Can I do anything to help?”

Asked Monday if that text to Meadows was authentic, Mulvaney emailed NBC News, “I remember texting him. And I recall he did not respond. I don’t recall My exact verbiage but that text looks accurate to me.”

“TELL THEM TO GO HOME !!!” another former White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus, texted Meadows.

Priebus did not respond to a request for comment.

Lawmakers who supported the president also tried to get him to calm the rioters.

"Mark I was just told there is an active shooter on the first floor of the Capitol Please tell the President to calm people This isn’t the way to solve anything," texted Greene, who added later on, "Mark we don’t think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters.

The Department of Justice has arrested nearly 800 Jan. 6 riot participants and not found evidence to support claims that any were members of Antifa dressed up like Trump supporters. Many who have pleaded guilty or gone to trial have expressed continued support for Trump, while some have said they regret their prior support for Trump.

Several days before Biden's inauguration, Greene texted Meadows on Jan. 17, 2021 that some lawmakers were saying Trump should call for martial law.

"In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall law. I don’t know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him. They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!" she wrote.

In December 2021, the House voted to refer Meadows to the Justice Department for a potential criminal charge over his refusal to answer questions about the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. Meadows had initially provided numerous documents to the committee investigating Jan. 6 before deciding against further engagement, claiming executive privilege.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-allies-secret-work-overturn-2020-election-detailed-new-text-mess-rcna25880

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5038 on: April 25, 2022, 11:35:49 PM »
Conspiracy theories, 'Marshall law' and 'psycho list' -- here are 7 shocking revelations from Mark Meadows text dump



Thousands of newly revealed text messages show former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows coordinating efforts to overturn Donald Trump's election loss -- and the panicked reactions of the former president's family and allies as the Jan. 6 insurrection raged.

CNN obtained 2,319 text messages Meadows exchanged with various figures in Trump's orbit between Election Day and Inauguration Day, revealing their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and their fear as that resulted in a violent siege of the U.S. Capitol.

Here are some of the most shocking noteworthy revelations from those private exchanges:

1.) Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) was among numerous Trump allies and family members who expressed concern about the violence, and a newly revealed text shows Donald Trump Jr. frantically urging Meadows to take action to calm the situation: "This his(sic) one you go to the mattresses on. They will try to f**k his entire legacy on this if it gets worse."

2.) Trump Jr. and former energy secretary Rick Perry each texted Meadows the day after the election to discuss ideas for overturning the results, which Perry had previously denied -- but CNN confirmed the message was sent from his phone because he signed his name and included his number.

3.) The former president's allies tried to blame the violence on Antifa almost right away, with campaign spokesman Jason Miller suggesting that Trump pin the blame on them at 3:45 p.m. on Jan. 6, and GOP lawmakers started texting Meadows with the same claims within minutes: "Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent," texted Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX).

4.) Greene (R-GA) told a court last week that she couldn't recall discussing the possibility of Trump declaring martial law, but she texted Meadows on Jan. 17, 2020, to say that several other members of Congress wanted the president to do that as "the only way to save our Republic" following what she called a stolen election. "I don't know on those things," she texted. "I just wanted you to tell him. They stole this election. We all know."

5.) Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) connected Meadows in late December with then-DOJ official Jeffrey Clark, who was pushing baseless voter fraud claims after attorney general William Barr resigned, and Trump considered placing him atop the department: "Mark, just checking in as time continues to count down. 11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration. We gotta get going!"

6.) Meadows was in contact with numerous journalists from a wide variety of outlets, but one of his most frequent interactions was with Fox News host Sean Hannity, who agreed to coordinate his coverage on Election Day to benefit Republican candidates in Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania: "'Yes sir," Hannity replied. "On it. Any place in particular we need a push."

7.) The former chief of staff was also involved in planning the Jan. 6 rally that preceded the riot, but Trump adviser Katrina Pierson was upset by the fringe figures who were expected to speak: "Things have gotten crazy and I desperately need some direction. Please," Pierson texted on Jan. 2, and followed up the next day. "Scratch that, Caroline Wren has decided to move forward with the original psycho list. Apparently Dan Scavino approved?? So, I'm done. I can't be a part of embarrassing POTUS any further."

https://www.rawstory.com/mark-meadows-texts/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5039 on: April 26, 2022, 12:24:06 AM »
'That's terrifying': Jake Tapper reacts in horror to revelations about Marjorie Taylor Greene floating martial law



CNN's Jake Tapper on Monday reacted in horror to newly released text messages showing Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) floated the possibility of former President Donald Trump declaring martial law just days before he was due to leave office.

While discussing the texts with Tapper, CNN's Jamie Gangel read Greene's full text to former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows on January 17th, 2021.

"In our private chat with only members, several are saying the only way to save our republic is for trump to call for martial law," Greene wrote to Meadows. "I don't know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him they stole this election, we all know they will destroy our country. Tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anything else."

Gangel summarized this by noting that "three days before the inauguration, she is trying to encourage the White House to invoke martial law."

"That's terrifying," Tapper replied.

Gangel then went over several panicked text messages that Trump allies sent to Meadows on January 6th encouraging him to tell Trump to call off the rioters at the Capitol.

Tapper commented that this just makes Trump allies' efforts to deflect blame for the riots onto Antifa even worse.

"So all of these allies who subsequently have acted as those this is not a big deal or this was Antifa or everybody is making too big a deal of it, all of them behind the scenes saying not only that they believe it's a big deal, but they all believe President Trump can stop it," he remarked.

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