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« Reply #5080 on: May 05, 2022, 05:29:25 AM »
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Oath Keepers founder tried to phone Trump on Jan. 6, group member tells court

William Todd Wilson said he was in a hotel with Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes as he spoke with a Trump intermediary and law enforcement tried to clear the Capitol.



WASHINGTON — The Oath Keepers founder facing seditious conspiracy charges attempted to speak directly with former President Donald Trump on the night of Jan. 6, and implored an intermediary to tell the president to use militia groups to stop the transfer of power, a fellow Oath Keepers member said in court Wednesday.

William Todd Wilson, a member of the far-right militia group who pleaded guilty Wednesday to seditious conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding in connection with the Jan. 6 riot, said in federal court that he joined Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes in a suite at the Phoenix Park Hotel not far from the Capitol shortly after the attack and listened as Rhodes called an unnamed Trump intermediary on speakerphone.

As he listened, he heard Rhodes “repeatedly implore the individual to tell President Trump to call upon groups like the Oath Keepers to forcibly oppose a transfer of power,” Wilson and prosecutors said. The individual on the line “denied Rhodes’ request to speak directly with President Trump,” according to the agreed upon statement of offense in Wilson’s case.

The alleged phone call, which Wilson said was made just after 5 p.m., would have taken place when rioters were still being cleared on the grounds of the Capitol, after Trump tweeted a video calling the rioters "very special" but before he tweeted, at 6:01 p.m., "Remember this day forever!”

Jonathan Moseley, a disbarred attorney who has worked with Rhodes, told NBC News on Wednesday night that the Oath Keepers “have always scoffed at the idea that they had anyway to talk to Trump or his team.”

Attorneys for Rhodes, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday night. But they pushed back in comments to CNN.

“None of them still show evidence of an actual plan to do something,” said Phillip Linder, one of the attorneys for Rhodes.

Wilson has been cooperating with the FBI and Justice Department investigation into Jan. 6, and agreed as part of his plea agreement to testify before grand juries and at jury trials if necessary.

Reporters from NBC News and CNN were waiting outside the courtroom before Wilson's plea hearing on Wednesday as Wilson, his lawyers and government officials discussed the logistics of Wilson's forthcoming testimony before a federal grand jury.

Wilson was the third Oath Keepers member to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy. In a separate hearing following Wilson's guilty plea, Judge Amit Mehta agreed to release Arizona Oath Keeper Edward Vallejo, who is also facing a seditious conspiracy charge, until trial.

The FBI has arrested nearly 800 people in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and more than 250 defendants have pleaded guilty. Federal authorities have the names of hundreds more who have not yet been arrested, and the Biden administration has requested more resources to prosecute cases already in the pipeline and the hundreds more that are expected to come.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-tried-phone-trump-jan-6-group-member-tells-court-rcna27412

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« Reply #5081 on: May 05, 2022, 12:06:00 PM »
Listen: New audio reveals McCarthy feared 25th Amendment wouldn’t oust Trump fast enough



On Wednesday, CNN revealed the existence of new audio of a call with GOP leadership that suggested House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) was sympathetic to the idea that former President Donald Trump should be removed after the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol — but believed that the 25th Amendment was an inadequate solution because it wouldn't remove him fast enough.

"The call took place on January 8, 2021, and the audio was obtained for the new book 'This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America's Future,' by Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns," reported Clare Fore and Melanie Zanona. "At one point in the recording, McCarthy asks an aide for a readout of a separate call. It's not clear exactly what call he is referring to. The aide responds, 'I think the options that have been cited by the Democrats so far are the 25th Amendment, which is not exactly an elegant solution here.'"

"McCarthy interjects to say, 'That takes too long too. It could go back to the House, right?'" said the report. "The aide responds, 'Correct. If the President were to submit a letter overruling the Cabinet and the vice president, two-thirds vote in the House and the Senate to overrule the President. So it's kind of an armful.'"

McCarthy said at another point in the recording that "What the President did is atrocious and totally wrong." But he also added that he believed the other option, impeachment, would divide the nation further.

Ultimately, several Republicans in the House and Senate voted to impeach and convict Trump, respectively, for incitement to insurrection, although not enough in the Senate for conviction.

Subsequently, McCarthy — who did not vote for impeachment — has professed his continuing allegiance to Trump.

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« Reply #5082 on: May 05, 2022, 12:31:23 PM »
'A crime scene': Former Trump official says new Kevin McCarthy tape is a 'bombshell'



The panel on MSNBC's Deadline: White House with Nicolle Wallace broke down the political and legal implications of a bombshell new audio recording showing how House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy worried that the 25th Amendment would take "too long" to remove Donald Trump from office following the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The audio was released by Jonathan Marin and Alex Burns, The New York Times reporters who authored the new book This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America's Future.

"What the President did is atrocious and totally wrong," McCarthy says in the audio recording.

Wallace played the full clip, before then discussing it with the panel.

Listen Below: Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy Denounces President Trump's Actions, Explores the 25th Amendment



Wallace noted that the audiotapes reveal McCarthy knew Trump was responsible for efforts to overturn the election and needed to be held accountable, but switched his tune after a visit to Mar-a-Lago in the weeks following the attacks.

Wallace wondered, "should DOJ want to know what Trump and McCarthy talked about? Because maybe what Trump told him or showed him where the White House visitor logs that had his caucus plotting a coup."

"I think that would be very relevant," former impeachment counsel Daniel Goldman replied. "And I think any conversations he had in the lead-up to Jan. 6th with [Mark] Meadows, with Don, Jr., with anyone in the Trump orbit pushing for this big wild rally on Jan. 6th, all of that would be relevant and it just goes to how massive this investigation really is, Nicolle."

Also on the panel was Miles Taylor, who served as chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security during the Trump administration.

"So why doesn't anyone want to know what Kevin McCarthy learned at Mar-a-Lago when he decided that Trump must stay?" Wallace asked.

"I'm neither a lawyer or a prosecutor but the operative questions here are 'What did they know and when did they know it?' Because a crime happened here. This was a crime scene. This is a scheme screen against democracy, Kevin McCarthy is a witness to one of the biggest political crimes perpetrated against this country," Taylor explained.

"Those questions need to be asked and that's why this tape is a bombshell," he said.

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« Reply #5083 on: May 05, 2022, 11:12:44 PM »
'Is he okay?': questions emerge about Donald Trump Jr.'s wellbeing following ballistic video tantrum



Donald Trump Jr. is not coping well with Monday's leak of the United States Supreme Court's draft majority opinion ending abortion rights – but not because millions of his fellow citizens will lose their fundamental liberties.

On Wednesday morning, Junior posted a video to Rumble in which he completely freaked out over the fact that a forthcoming Supreme Court ruling was prematurely made public.

The three-minute video began with an overly stimulated Junior flailing around, shouting about privacy, and demanding a "criminal investigation" into the leak (there is no evidence so far that any laws were broken):

Well guys, you saw the leak from the Supreme Court, an unprecedented thing. This kind of stuff doesn't happen. I don't know that I'm ever aware of a leak. This is not like Congress where everything leaks, and trust me I've done enough testimony. Things are leaking during, uh, closed-door hearings. I get it. The Supreme Court doesn't have leaks. If there's not a thorough criminal investigation into who leaked privileged documents about a draft decision from the United States Supreme Court – where a small, small, tiny handful of people have access to it – then we live in a clown show state. We live in a clown show state, folks.

Junior said that the Federal Bureau of Investigation should spearhead his desired probe because it once looked into a suspected noose that was hanging from a garage door belonging to NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace, which turned out to be nothing.

There is no connection between the Wallace incident and the Supreme Court leak.

"If they don't send people to investigate this, then again, we live in a clown show state," he reiterated.

Next, Junior alleged without presenting any proof that a "pissed off leftist" for whom "the media will run cover" was behind the breach. He equated the leak to a "general coordinating with communist China, giving Chinese generals examples of what our response would be."

Junior then boasted that "this may be the first time in history that a Supreme Court opinion has leaked. I'm not aware of another time and I dunno that any of you are either."

This is incorrect, as the Court's original Roe versus Wade decision was leaked ahead of time.

Junior then thundered over the following 90 seconds that the leak was part of a coordinated effort by "the left" to manipulate the November midterm elections. Here, again, he did not offer anything to support his manic assumption.

What captured the attention of observers of social media, however, was Junior's ballistic behavior. The Twitterverse suspected that Junior's rapid-fire rant was indicative of substance abuse.

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https://www.alternet.org/2022/05/is-he-okay-donald-junior/

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« Reply #5084 on: May 05, 2022, 11:34:21 PM »
Melania's ex-friend ‘shattered’ after Trump gets away with inauguration self-dealing: ‘They stole so much!’

The Trump Organization and Donald Trump's inauguration committee agreed to a settlement to end a years-long investigation into misused donations, and the probe's key witness is furious about the resolution.

Stephanie Winston-Wolkoff, a former friend and staffer to Melania Trump, helped plan the inauguration but turned against the former president and his wife after they appeared to blame her for the mismanagement of funds donated to the event, and she spoke out against the $750,000 settlement reached with the District of Columbia to end the probe, reported The Daily Beast.

“I’m just so shattered -- It’s awful, it’s unjust, it’s absurd,” Winston-Wolkoff said. “I can’t believe this. They stole so much. The self-dealing, the perjury -- they all know about it.”

D.C. attorney general Karl Racine called the settlement a win for his office, but Winston-Wolkoff and corruption watchdogs lamented that the resolution was less than the $1 million in nonprofit funds that prosecutors accused the Trump family of misspending by booking events at vastly overprice rooms at Trump International Hotel Washington D.C.

"[It's] the kind of thing that helps fuel this public perception that there are two systems of justice: one for the everyman and another for the rich and powerful," said Elizabeth Hempowicz, director of public policy at the Project on Government Oversight. “It's not about the money at the end of the day. What is a million dollars to the Trump family?”

However, another government watchdog said the settlement was actually sort of remarkable given the difficulties prosecutors face when going after the rich and powerful.

“Donald Trump and his associates have a strategy of aggressive litigation and particularly delay tactics," said Noah Bookbinder, president of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. "They will try to drag things out as long as possible. They will make it as difficult as possible. For the attorney general to get them to a place where they were willing to pay up is pretty remarkable."

“I wish it was more, and I wish it were all the money they got through self-dealing,” Bookbinder added. “It is frustrating that Donald Trump always seems to escape without admitting anything.”

The settlement allows the Trump Organization to deny wrongdoing, and about $350,000 of the settlement was already paid by an insurance company -- much to the frustration of Winston-Wolkoff.

“He is above the law," she said. "There’s just no accountability whatsoever, for $750,000."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-trump-family-won-the-dc-inauguration-case

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« Reply #5085 on: May 05, 2022, 11:37:33 PM »
Rape accuser's lawsuit against Trump could allow for a sampling of his DNA

Lawyers for writer E. Jean Carroll will be ramping up her lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of defaming her after she accused him of raping her in the 1990s, according to CNBC News.

An agreement between Carroll's and Trump's lawyers could possibly allow DNA samples of Trump to be analyzed against a stain on a piece of clothing from Carroll that allegedly contains DNA she says is from the day of the attack.

“We are pleased that the parties have committed that fact discovery will resume in this case and be completed by November 16, 2022,” Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan said in a statement.

Carroll has alleged that Trump raped her in the changing room of a luxury New York department store in the mid-1990s.

She is suing him for defamation, claiming that his denials of the alleged attack, in which he said, "She's not my type," had damaged her reputation and career.

Trump denies all the allegations and has never been prosecuted over them.

A month before his election victory in November 2016, a ten-year-old tape came to light in which the former reality TV star and real estate tycoon bragged about assaulting women.

Read more here: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/05/trump-defamation-lawsuit-by-e-jean-carroll-set-to-resume-discovery.html

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« Reply #5086 on: May 05, 2022, 11:42:59 PM »
Nicolle Wallace has 2 big questions about the ‘ties between Trump-world and domestic extremists’



MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace explained on Tuesday the key questions raised by the latest revelations about ties between Donald Trump and domestic extremists who supported his efforts to stay in power despite losing the 2020 presidential election.

"A stunning allegation in the high-profile Jan. 6th case brings one of the most violent extremist groups involved in the capitol insurrection closer than ever before to Donald Trump and his allies," Wallace reported. "William Todd Wilson pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy on Wednesday. He's one of the 11 members of the extremist group the Oath Keepers. He is the third member of that group to plead guilty and agree to cooperate with prosecutors. He was among the Oath Keepers seen on the 6th on video moving in military formation among the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol."

Wallace read from the statement of offense the Department of Justice filed against Wilson.

"At the Phoenix Hotel, [Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes] gathered Wilson and other co-conspirators inside of a private suite. Rhodes then called an individual over speaker phone," the DOJ explained. "Wilson heard, Rhodes repeatedly implore the individual to tell President Trump to call upon groups like the Oath Keepers to forcibly oppose the transfer of power. This individual denied Rhodes's request to speak directly with President Trump. After the call ended, Rhodes stated to the group, 'I just want to fight.'"

Wallace had two major questions following the revelation.

"Who was Stewart Rhodes talking to?" she wondered. "Why would the leader of a domestic violent extremist group have access to a person who supposedly had a direct line to then-President of the United States Donald J. Trump?"

Wallace and her paneled then discussed the "new revelation shedding light on the ties between Trump-world and domestic extremists."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5087 on: May 06, 2022, 12:52:24 AM »
Connecting the dots in this seditious criminal conspiracy to overthrow the US government by far right wing radical extremists.

Treasonous traitors Roger Stone and Michael Flynn used the Oath Keepers for their "security detail" on January 6th. The leader of the Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, called someone in Trump's inner circle asking to stop the transfer of power which most likely would be by violent force.

Think about this. Why would this far right wing extremist have contact information to a Trump confidant if they all weren't involved?

Why would he be providing "security detail" to Trump's political advisers Roger Stone and Michael Flynn if they weren't all involved?

The fact remains, there was no reason to be holding a January 6th rally and these Trump MAGA radicals had no business being at the Capitol because the election was never "stolen". This election fraud lie and the rally was perpetrated by Criminal Donald and his co-conspirators as an attempt for him to illegally remain in power because Trump simply refused to give up power after his blowout defeat. His co-conspirators wanted him to stay in power as well and they intended to steal an election by force from the American people. That is a violent coup which is something you would see in a third world country. Republican elected officials were involved in this coup as well and so was members of the right wing media like Sean Hannity who was advising Mark Meadows what to say by text.

The radical right desperately wanted to keep Trump in power no matter the cost and they attempted a violent insurrection to accomplish their goal. Republicans in Congress refused to certify votes that Joe Biden won and tried to get Mike Pence to illegally not certify legal and lawful certifications to illegally keep Trump in power.   

This was all about illegally keeping Trump in power and nothing else. These criminals who were all involved need to go to prison for sedition and treason because that's exactly what this is, as stated in our Constitution.     

Militia group leader tried to ask Trump to authorize them to stop transfer of power
Justice department alleges Oath Keepers’ Stewart Rhodes called unidentified presidential confidant on January 6 to make request
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/04/trump-oath-keepers-capitol-attack

Text message trove shows Oath Keepers discussing security details for Trump associates
Roger Stone and Michael Flynn were among them.


Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, speaks during a rally outside the White House on June 25, 2017.

Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages.

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and top allies like Florida Oath Keeper Kelly Meggs discussed plans to provide security for figures like Roger Stone, Alex Jones, Ali Alexander and Michael Flynn on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, describing potential partnerships with other groups and security details.

While several members of the group now facing charges notably flanked Stone on Jan. 5 — including Joshua James, who has since pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy — the extent of the Oath Keepers’ work for other figures has been murky. For example, Alexander indicated in a recent statement that the Oath Keepers never ended up providing security for him because his own Jan. 6 event was canceled amid the chaos on Capitol grounds.

But the group’s conversations reveal an easy relationship among several of the groups and entities now under scrutiny by federal prosecutors and the Jan. 6 select committee. In one exchange, Meggs — identified by his handle “Gator 1” — indicates he attempted to call Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, after hearing reports he had been arrested on Jan. 4, 2021.

“I just called him no answer,” Meggs told fellow Oath Keepers. “But he will [call if] he’s out.”

The messages were posted Monday by Ed Vallejo, one of 11 Oath Keepers facing seditious conspiracy charges for his role in the alleged plot. Vallejo was stationed at a Comfort Inn in Arlington, Va., where prosecutors say he oversaw the group’s cache of weapons and was prepared to drive it to the Capitol if the fighting grew more intense. Vallejo is seeking release from pretrial detention.

Evidence that Meggs had a direct line to Tarrio — whose phone was confiscated by law enforcement and has now been accessed by federal prosecutors — adds new heft to the evidence of coordination among the groups. Prosecutors recently highlighted their interest in a Jan. 5 meeting between Rhodes and Tarrio in a parking garage in Washington, D.C., shortly after Tarrio was released following his Jan. 4 arrest.

Prosecutors had previously disclosed messages Meggs sent describing efforts to forge an “alliance” between Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and other groups like the Three Percenters. Meggs is among a handful of Oath Keeper leaders incarcerated while awaiting trial.

In the newly released cache of messages, Oath Keepers discuss the possibility of joining Flynn’s security detail. Rhodes noted that he had previously worked with First Amendment Praetorian, a group linked to Flynn, to protect Flynn, as well as with a group assigned to protect pro-Trump broadcaster Alex Jones, who has described relying on a group of retired police officers for his protection on Jan. 6.

"We may also end up assisting the PSD for Alex Jones again. Which was a great feather in our cap,” Rhodes said. “We worked superbly will with both Alex Jones security team (who are awesome guys) and with Praetorian Guard (also awesome veterans — led by SF and SEAL veterans). They LOVE working with us because of our legit ‘quiet professional’ demeanor and skillsets.”

Jones said in January that he considered the Oath Keepers to be “LARPing” and “playing soldier in the backyard.” LARPing is an acronym that stands for Live Action Role Playing.

Asked about the new messages, Jones’ attorney Norm Pattis said Jones was willing to speak to federal prosecutors about the events of Jan. 6.

“Mr. Jones engaged in no criminal conduct. Period,” Pattis said. “He’s expressed a willingness to discuss this with federal prosecutors. We await their response.”

Rhodes said Alexander had requested a “two man dedicated [Oath Keeper] PSD,” short for personal security detail. He also described requests from Latinos for Trump, “a patriot billionaire” and VA Women for Trump.

"Bottom line, is those of you wanting to do PSD details will get plenty of opportunity,” Rhodes wrote.

Meggs also described a familiarity with Stone that has previously emerged in other court filings. When one Oath Keeper indicated that he wanted to shake Stone’s hand, Meggs said he would help arrange it.

“Been [to] his house a few times,” Meggs noted.

Attorneys for Flynn, Alexander and Stone were not immediately available for comment.

The Oath Keepers also exchanged messages that referenced members of Congress. Rhodes, in particular, asked an associate for the cell number of Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Texas) who was described by members on the text chain as being in need of security during the attack on the Capitol. Jackson was the White House physician before he was elected to Congress in 2020.

“Dr. Ronnie Jackson — on the move. Needs protection. If anyone inside cover him. He has critical data to protect,” one unidentified person wrote.

"Help with what?” Rhodes replied. “Give him my cell.” (A spokesperson for Jackson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.)

In a Jan. 3 exchange, Meggs mentioned that unidentified allies mentioned the Oath Keepers “on the call with congressmen” and “wanted to say thank you all for providing and protecting us.”

The filing also includes a transcript of a recorded meeting of the Oath Keepers from Nov. 9, 2020, in which Rhodes advises allies to be aware of D.C.’s gun laws and other restrictions during protests.

“Pepper spray is legal. Tasers are legal, and stun guns are legal. And it doesn’t hurt to have a lead pipe with a flag on it,” he said.

“For example, when I was walking through the streets of Portland, I was quote/unquote unarmed, but I had my helmet in my hand. Guess what that was for? That was to whack someone right across the face if they’re going to come at me. So, there are ways around — there’s ways of dealing with things that improvise as tools.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/18/oath-keepers-security-trump-jan6-00026157

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