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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #576 on: July 22, 2020, 11:57:27 PM »
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Mr Zero is adding on a zero after the decimal separator....  :D :D :D :D

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #577 on: July 22, 2020, 11:59:51 PM »
Colossally ignorant Royell doesn't know that the comma is used as a decimal separator throughout Europe.   :D

Good catch. I didn't pick up on that one.....

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #578 on: July 23, 2020, 12:07:05 AM »
Another "WINNING, WINNING, WINNING" Issue for Trump. Trump = "Law & Order" wins in Nov. The Dem's are currently Melting Down as they see Trump pulling away from "Fuzzy" Joe currently curled up in a Ball inside his basement. Trump 2020 Rolls On!

So much "WINNING"  :D :D :D


Republicans are at each others' throats as they veer toward electoral self-sabotage

Every day, new polls come out that show Republicans in dire straits for the 2020 election. And it’s no surprise — the economy is collapsing and the country is ravaged by a devastating pandemic, events that President Donald Trump is in no small part to blame for.

But the stress of impending doom isn’t focusing GOP minds or encouraging them to band together. Instead, the pressure seems to be tearing them apart. And in their dysfunction, they may be ready to thwart the country’s best chances of muddling through the present devastation further undermining their own electoral standing heading into November.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) has been the subject of much internal scrutiny and discord, as multiple reports and public comments have revealed. Though at times she has sought the president’s favor, she broken with him at key points recently — inspiring the wrath of his fierce congressional defenders.

CNN reported that she became a target at Tuesday’s Republican conference:

Several House Republicans attacked House GOP Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney of Wyoming during a conference meeting Tuesday morning for supporting Dr. Anthony Fauci and splitting with President Donald Trump on a variety of issues over the past few months, three sources who were in the room told CNN.

Members including Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Chip Roy of Texas, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Ralph Norman of South Carolina all chimed in to air grievances against Cheney.



During the conference meeting, Gaetz and Massie complained about Cheney supporting a primary challenge to Massie, the sources said. Jordan, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, listed areas where Cheney has publicly disagreed with the President, pointing to her resistance to Trump’s plan to pull back troops in Germany and Afghanistan.

Roy hit Cheney for supporting Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, and complained that his Democratic opponent has retweeted some of Cheney’s tweets.


Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), too, let loose on Cheney to the media.

“I mean she tries to sabotage everything he tries to do in foreign policy, so I don’t know whether she’s a good advocate for the President or not,” he told CNN.

He also said: “I don’t think she’s good for the country.”

Meanwhile, rifts are forming over what to do with the next coronavirus relief bill. On that matter, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Tom Cotton (R-AR) have found themselves on opposite sides.

The Washington Post’s James Hohmann reported that Cruz fumed at Cotton’s advocacy for more spending at a recent meeting, exclaiming: “What in the hell are we doing?”

According to Axios, the primary rift falls between Senate Republicans and the Trump White House.

“The Senate Republican lunch descended into chaos, several GOP lawmakers said, revealing that the White House and Republican senators remain far apart on key priorities in the next economic package,” reported Alayna Treene. “The White House officials did little talking, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) told reporters. Instead, senators used the time to air their disagreements. ‘There’s a robust difference of opinion,’ Hawley said.”

Once again, Paul aired his frustrations publicly:

Just came from Progressive Democrat, whoops, I’m mean Republican caucus: 
They’re going to spend $105b more on education, more than we spend every year on the Dept of Education. Anyone remember when Reagan conservatives were for eliminating the Federal Dept. of Education?

Democrats, on the other hand, remain united. The House passed a $3 trillion spending bill in May that the Senate and the White House have refused to move on.

“Republicans are in complete disarray,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), according to the Washington Post. “Totally incompetent. Totally in disarray. Totally at war with one another.”

CNBC reported Wednesday afternoon that the GOP is drifting toward potentially passing a bill that would extend the expanded unemployment insurance in the country after it is supposed to expire this week — but at a drastically reduced rate:

Republicans are considering extending the enhanced unemployment insurance benefit at a dramatically reduced level of $400 per month, or $100 a week, through the rest of the year, sources told CNBC.

Congress passed a $600 per week, or $2,400 a month, boost to jobless benefits in March to deal with a wave of unemployment unseen in decades as states shut down their economies to combat the coronavirus pandemic. The policy expires at the end of July as the U.S. unemployment rate stands above 11%.

The GOP, which has not made a final decision on how it will craft unemployment insurance in a bill set to be released this week, previously discussed extending the benefit at an additional $200 per week instead of $600. Democrats want to make the $600 per week sum available at least until next year.


This plan, it should be clear, would be disastrous. There are still many millions of people unemployed because of the initial downturn caused by the coronavirus pandemic. Many are desperate and only scraping by as is. Slashing their benefits by $2,000 a month, with the virus resurgent and the economy at risk of getting worse, would be a brutal blow.

Even if Republicans were to eventually agree with Democrats and extend the $600 a week expanded unemployment (an unlikely scenario), observers expect the program will still lapse before it is renewed. This means recipients would face a gap in the payments they’ve been receiving, which could itself cause a major shock to the economy.

And all this rancor, dithering, and lack of urgency are likely to be electoral poison for the GOP. With a devastated economy and an out-of-control virus, the ruling party is likely to lose the White House and congressional seats no matter what it does. But guaranteeing economic distress and continued uncertainty for millions of families while the country is trying to recover from financial collapse would be a spectacular form of Republican self-sabotage.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #578 on: July 23, 2020, 12:07:05 AM »


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #579 on: July 23, 2020, 12:25:31 AM »
    Instead of gambling which I do Not do, why don't you guys pool your shekels and make me an offer/$$$ to STOP EXPOSING: (1) Your indefensible positions on Numerous Political Issues and (2) Your supporting a Non Compos Mentis Presidential candidate? I would consider that offer/$$$.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #580 on: July 23, 2020, 12:27:51 AM »
    Instead of gambling which I do Not do, why don't you guys pool your shekels and make me an offer/$$$ to STOP EXPOSING: (1) Your indefensible positions on Numerous Political Issues and (2) Your supporting a Non Compos Mentis Presidential candidate? I would consider that offer/$$$.

So, no confidence whatsoever in a Trump win in November....  Got it   Thumb1:

Just another spineless coward;



Instead of gambling which I do Not do

Of course you do. Everyday that you support that maniac Trump, you gamble with your own future and those of your loved ones. You gamble alright, you're just not bright enough to understand it.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #581 on: July 23, 2020, 12:30:03 AM »
Donald Trump's Gestapo thugs beat a Navy vet. Is this what you want America to be? Donald Trump is doing this as a reality show because he thinks it will help him with his right wing base. Americans are outraged. Don't let fascism and authoritarian rule destroy our great country of liberty and democracy. Vote this wannabe authoritarian dictator thug out of office in a massive landslide on November 3rd.

Navy veteran beaten and pepper-sprayed by federal agents at protest in Portland
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/21/portland-protest-navy-vet-christopher-david-beaten-federal-agents-video/5477552002/






Experts: Trump's use of federal DHS officers in Portland is ‘bad and ineffective law enforcement’

President Donald Trump and Chad Wolf, acting secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, have been drawing a great deal of criticism for the way in which federal law enforcement officers have been conducting themselves during George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon — where men in military-like camouflage have been emerging from unmarked vehicles and detaining protesters. Legal experts Benjamin Wittes and Quinta Jurecic, in a July 21 article for The Atlantic, analyze Trump’s use of federal law enforcement in Portland and explain why it is wildly inappropriate.

“Whether the Trump Administration has the technical legal authority to deploy this show of force in this particular matter does not answer the question of whether it should do so,” Wittes and Jurecic argue. “The use of federal officers in this manner is corrosive of democratic culture, it makes for bad and ineffective law enforcement, and it’s likely physically dangerous both for the law enforcement officers and for the protesters in question.”

Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon has denounced the officers as “Trump’s secret police,” and other critics of the president have said that the images coming out of Portland recall Italy under Benito Mussolini or Chile under Gen. Augusto Pinochet.” Gov. Kate Brown, also a Democrat, told PBS that “Trump’s troops” were “pouring gasoline on a fire.”

Ron Wyden: peaceful protester in Portland was shot in the head by one of Donald Trump’s secret police. Now Trump and Chad Wolf are weaponizing the DHS as their own occupying army to provoke violence on the streets of my hometown because they think it plays well with right-wing media.

Wittes and Jurecic write that although DHS is authorized to protect federal property — including the federal courthouse in Portland — DHS has been overreaching in Oregon’s largest city.

According to Wittes and Jurecic, “The existence of the department’s authority to protect federal property is uncontroversial. The federal government has the power to defend federal buildings and facilities from civil unrest, and a variety of federal laws protect federal property from attack and vandalism and federal officials from interference with their discharge of the government’s business. While this authority certainly extends to the power to investigate federal crimes and arrest those suspected of them, it is not some general authority to patrol the downtowns of major cities and pick up and detain protesters merely because a federal building may be in the neighborhood.”

The legal experts note that the “tactical divisions of the Homeland Security Department from which the officers in Portland appear to hail — Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) — are not typically deployed at protests, but charged with enforcing immigration law and guarding the U.S. border…. Sending out officers untrained for demonstrations risks violence if the agents end up in situations they don’t know how to handle.”

Wittes and Jurecic conclude their article by saying that if Trump’s desire is to discourage the protesters in Portland, it “doesn’t seem to be working.”

“Last night in Portland, as happened last month in Washington, D.C., peaceful protests only grew in response to the federal show of force,” Wittes and Jurecic write. “If Trump follows through on his promise to export the federal muscle to other cities, the anonymous agents may be met with more large crowds defying Trump’s efforts at vilification and coercion.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/experts-trumps-use-of-federal-dhs-officers-in-portland-is-bad-and-ineffective-law-enforcement/
 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #582 on: July 23, 2020, 12:34:46 AM »
So, no confidence whatsoever in a Trump win in November....  Got it   Thumb1:
   
   If You do Not want "in" just say so. Just be prepared to endure continually being exposed/ridiculed. Notwithstanding your general math skills also needing serious work.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #583 on: July 23, 2020, 12:39:52 AM »
   
   If You do Not want "in" just say so. Just be prepared to endure continually being exposed/ridiculed. Notwithstanding your general math skills also needing serious work.

Wanna buy some coconuts from a Spanish Island?.... They're cheap, only $ 1,00 each.

You've just exposed yourself as a spineless coward who does not believe in what he pretends to stand for. To bad you're not bright enough to understand that.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #583 on: July 23, 2020, 12:39:52 AM »