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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6024 on: April 20, 2023, 09:57:29 AM »
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Faux News hasn't learned their lesson by still continuing to defend their election disinformation. "Freedom of the press" does not give any media outlet the right to broadcast harmful and malicious disinformation nor is that "foundational to democracy" when bogus conspiracy theories of "election fraud" is aimed at eroding our democracy and elections in the United States.     


Fox News makes 'remarkable' statement just one day after massive Dominion settlement

Fox News on Tuesday agreed to a massive $780 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems -- and now the network is acting like absolutely nothing has changed.

Axios media reporter Sara Fischer on Wednesday reported that Fox News sent out a fresh statement about its ongoing litigation with electronic voting systems company Smartmatic that shows the network relying on the same tactics it used to try to defuse the Dominion litigation.

"Remarkable statement from Fox to me just now in response to Smartmatic’s lawyers saying they are ready to pick up where Dominion left off," Fischer commented on Twitter before pasting the entire statement.

"There is nothing more newsworthy than covering the president of the United States and his lawyers making allegations of voter fraud," Fox said in a preview of its defense against Smartmatic's allegations that it defamed them with segments suggesting they stole the 2020 election from former President Donald Trump. "Freedom of the press is foundational to our democracy and must be protected, in addition to the damages claims being outrageous, unsupported, and not rooted in sound financial analysis."

This is the exact same defense that Fox News used in the leadup to its defamation trial with Dominion where it eventually agreed to pay the company several times its net worth and acknowledged that it had reported false claims about the firm.

Smartmatic is suing Fox News for even more money than the $1.6 billion that Dominion originally sought and its lawyers have vowed to bring accountability to the network.

https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1648680384165724161



'Travesty': Former Fox Host says network's greed and disinformation is a danger to democracy



Former Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson unloaded about her former employer on CNN Wednesday, tearing into them for valuing profits and ratings over informing their viewers of the truth.

This comes just after the network agreed to pay out a $787.5 billion settlement to Dominion Voting Systems in a closely watched case about their promotion of election conspiracy theories in 2020.

"When you saw some of those documents that, through discovery, Dominion got, in which what folks were saying on air and what they were saying privately in text messages to each other," said anchor Anderson Cooper. "Did that, the difference between what was being said and what they were actually believing, Tucker Carlson saying he hated Donald Trump and clearly not saying that on air, did that surprise, you? Now look, I think that even Rupert Murdoch said that it was all about making sure that they were in the green and keeping things, you know, making money for them?"

"Look, I think it's a travesty," said Carlson. "Because I think it's actually a threat to American democracy to promote that kind of misinformation. Let me be clear. There is a huge difference between espousing conservative viewpoints and having an intellectual conversation between conservatives and liberals, which I think is very important — there's a huge difference between that and telling lies to the American public, and that's where we have now become in the evolution of Fox News, at least with regard to the 2020 election and January 6th."

"Do you think with this next election — do you think we're going to hear those same lies told again?" Cooper pressed her.

"Oh gosh, depends on who the candidate is, I think, but I have — I have no way of predicting that," said Carlson. "But I would love to be able to reach out to all of those Fox News viewers and hope that somehow we could get them back into the reality of what's really going on, but I think we're so far gone in this fake news era that I'm not necessarily hopeful about that."

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Dominion settlement doesn’t end Fox News’ legal crisis



Fox News was able to avert the embarrassment of a trial by settling its defamation lawsuit with Dominion Voting Systems for $787.5 million, but the Murdoch empire remains in crisis amid a parade of ongoing lawsuits, The Los Angeles Times’ Meg James writes.

Fox is still facing a defamation lawsuit filed by Smartmatic, which is seeking $2.7 billion, as well as a lawsuit from former producer Abby Grossberg on allegations that she was pressured into giving false testimony in the Dominion case.

Texts and emails revealed during discovery in the Dominion case showed that some of the network’s top executives and talents knowingly aired falsehoods about the 2020 election that have caused reputational damage to the company.

The Dominion case also shows that Murdoch may have lost a step, Yale University management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld said Tuesday, according to James’ report.

“There’s a huge amount of evidence that Murdoch is not at the top of his game,” Sonnenfeld said.

“The best case for him would be to acknowledge that he’s lost control of the Fox-enstein monster that he created.”

The network is also facing a shareholder revolt, with investors contending that network executives are responsible for airing falsehoods that damaged the company.

“Fox executives and hosts knew that Trump’s election fraud claims were ‘really crazy stuff,’ as Rupert Murdoch, the head of the Fox media empire, put it, yet pushed them on air anyway,” Fox shareholder Robert Schwarz alleges in court filings obtained by The Times.

“Fox was more concerned about short-term ratings and market share than the long-term damages of its failure to tell the truth,” Schwarz’s suit said. “The board’s decision to chase viewers by promoting the false stolen election claims has exposed the company to public ridicule and negatively impacted the credibility of Fox News as a media organization that is supposed to accurately report newsworthy events.”

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-04-18/fox-news-dominion-settlement-fallout-rupert-murdochs-empire



Dominion settlement imperils Fox News' far-right rivals



Deep-pocketed Fox News can probably withstand the $787.5 million payout in its settlement with Dominion Voting Systems.

But that may not be the case for the conservative network’s far-right rivals, The Daily Beast reports.

One America News Network and Newsmax are both facing lawsuits from Dominion and Smartmatic, among others.

The parade of lawsuits against the right-wing networks all center around false claims of election fraud in 2020.

Dominion’s lawsuit against OANN states that the network “helped create and cultivate an alternate reality where ... Dominion engaged in a colossal fraud.”

The Daily Beast’s Justin Baragona writes that “Essentially, the voting-systems company is arguing that both Newsmax and OAN overtly tried to boost their ratings and directly appeal to disgruntled MAGA fans.”

Fox News remains mired in litigation. It is facing a $2.7 billion Smartmatic lawsuit, along with a lawsuit from former producer Abby Grossberg on allegations she was pressured into giving false testimony in the Dominion case, and a shareholder revolt targeting executives over Fox’s airing of conspiracies that damaged the company.

But Fox News has a market capitalization of approximately $17.3 billion, and according to CEO Lachlan Murdoch has $4.1 billion in cash on hand.

OANN and Newsmax are both are privately held companies, which makes it difficult to assess what they’re worth.

Baragona writes: “Conservative businessman Robert Herring, who launched OAN in 2013, pegged the network’s value in 2019 at $250 million. However, that was almost entirely due to the channel’s deal with DirecTV at the time, as an accountant swore under oath at the time that OAN’s value ‘would be zero’ without the AT&T-backed satellite carrier. DirecTV dropped OAN last year, followed by other cable providers.”

Read More Here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-fox-news-caving-to-dominion-could-spell-doom-for-newsmax-and-oan



Dominion lawyer shoots down Newsmax’s defense of 2020 coverage: 'It's the same lies' as Fox



Dominion Voting Systems' lead counsel Justin Nelson took yet another victory lap on MSNBC's "The Beat" Wednesday, following Fox News' agreement this week to pay a $787.5 billion settlement to resolve the lawsuit over their role in pushing election conspiracy theories.

He also reiterated a vow he made the previous evening: that the litigation is not over, and another big right-wing media network that pushed election lies, Newsmax, is next.

"Beyond just making Dominion whole, which is the legal jargon, you had a major win against a powerful, well-funded adversary in the Fox News parent company and Rupert Murdoch," said anchor Ari Melber. "What does it mean for people other than media watchers, insiders and the Dominion company? What does it mean, in your view, for American democracy?"

"I think it is a ringing endorsement for accountability," said Nelson. "This was the first time that anybody has been held accountable for the lies told in the 2020 presidential election, and this was the first time that a court has held that the lies were indeed false. And to have a payment of over $750 million and recognition these were indeed lies is a strong message that lies indeed have consequences, as we said yesterday. To have that just all throughout, it really is a message to all Americans that, Ari, we can disagree, we're going to have disagreements over issues, but we've got to have a shared understanding of facts, and that is really what makes our democracy so special, and I think that this is helping so tremendously along that line."

"There are open cases you're leading," Melber noted later in the segment. "You've just shown the world what you guys can do. Giuliani, Powell, Mr. MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. These other entities, OAN and Newsmax. I call them media entities. Do you think you're on a path to win these cases? And do you think that would also potentially have a positive effect on factual discourse in America?"

"I do," said Nelson. "Newsmax released a statement saying, don't worry, our case is different. But obviously it's not, it's the same lies everybody knew. So we're going to go after Newsmax, we're going after One America News and the owners of One American News, who are billionaires, and we're going to go after the individuals who helped spread these lies — Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell, Patrick Byrne. And I think it sends a message that if you told these lies about the election, that there is accountability, and ultimately that's what it's all about. Again, we're going to have misinformation, but I think what this is establishing is that there will be consequences to lying ... when you are knowingly lying, recklessly disregarding the truth, there are consequences to that, and that's what the past 48 hours have shown."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6025 on: April 20, 2023, 10:13:05 AM »
New Lincoln Project ad uses Fox News’ top talent to skewer right-wing network over 2020 election falsehoods



A newly released Lincoln Project video skewers Fox News over 2020 election falsehoods, and it uses the voices of the right-wing network’s top talents to make its point.

The PAC founded in 2019 by moderate Republicans in response to the party’s burgeoning illiberal tendencies published the ad in the aftermath of Fox’s $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems in a defamation lawsuit against the right-wing network for spreading falsehoods over the 2020 election.

The video features Fox hosts Tucker Carlson, Jeanine Pirro and Sean Hannity making statements about the election, many of which text messages show they later admitted they knew to be false.

“America, Fox News thinks you're stupid,” the Lincoln Project said in a tweet that accompanies the video.

“They continue to manufacture and spread lies, knowingly misleading the public and sowing distrust in our democratic institutions, It’s time to #DropFox.”

Carlson is shown saying: “They rigged the election in front of all of us and nobody did anything about it.”

The statement is followed by Pirro saying “the assistance of Smartmatic software and backdoor is capable of switching votes.”

Says Hannity: “Fraudulent software could be used to seriously alter elections.”

The video also shows Trump attorney Sidney Powell making outlandish allegations that “the machine ran an algorithm that shaved votes from Trump and awarded them to Biden.”

Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It’s insane.

“Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy”

“It’s unbelievably offense to me. Our viewers are good people and they believe it.”

The ad concludes with a statement from Carlson extolling the virtues of honest journalism.

“In case you haven’t noticed it’s hard to trust anything you hear right now,” Carlson says.

“We’ve heard you, we’re grateful that you trust us, and we will try to be worthy of your trust.”

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America, Fox News thinks you're stupid. They manufacture and spread lies about the 2020 election, knowingly misleading the public and sowing distrust in our democratic institutions. It’s time to #DropFox.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6026 on: April 20, 2023, 10:08:45 PM »
Happy trails!

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« Reply #6028 on: April 20, 2023, 10:52:53 PM »
Trump's unused mansion falls under investigation for possible tax fraud



The latest financial disclosures filed by Donald Trump raise new questions about a large tax break he got on a Batman-like estate north of New York City.

The former president reduced his tax bill on the land listed as Seven Springs LLC by more than $3.5 million in 2015, when he first entered politics, and new filings show the property earned him less than $2,500 in the form of a vaguely labeled "rebate," although he valued the land at $50 million, reported The Daily Beast.

“There has been an enormous amount of valuation abuse," said Nancy Assaf McLaughlin, a national expert on conservation easements, who was speaking generally because she did not know the details of Trump's property. "People will come up with a ‘before value’ that exceeds anything a willing buyer would pay, using ‘subdivision development analysis’ and coming up with a hypothetical subdivision of lots."

“It has no relation to what somebody would actually pay you for that property on the open market," added McLaughlin, a law professor at the University of Utah. “Income tax deduction is inappropriately lucrative in those cases."

Trump has reported no income on the estate since he started filing federal disclosure forms required by some executive branch officials, and an expert compared his arrangement to a rancher who decided to leave their land to sit unused.

“Many ranchers are earning next to nothing on their farmland, but as soon as they give it up, they get a very generous tax break relative to what they were earning," said James Vercammen, a land economist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. "You’re going to learn a lot more from the tax break than what you’d earn from the land itself."

Trump had hoped to build a golf course and several mansions on the property, but local residents opposed any land development, so he instead cashed in on the tax break -- and New York attorney general Letitia James is now investigating the value he placed on the underdeveloped land.

“When an appraiser comes back with values that are lower than what Trump wants, he’ll get fired, won’t get paid, or they’ll hire another,” said a source who had seen some of Trump's transactions in recent years. “He’s extracted the highest possible he can find.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-trumps-dubious-tax-break-for-donated-land-paid-off

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« Reply #6029 on: April 21, 2023, 04:33:45 AM »
Donald Trump’s problem isn’t just that he hires inept attorneys. It’s that his attorneys end up so compromised, they have trouble even remaining on the case. Evan Corcoran, Trump’s attorney in the DOJ classified documents case, has had to recuse himself because he’s now a grand jury witness for the prosecution. And now Trump may be about to lose one of his attorneys in the Manhattan criminal case.

It was reported last month that Trump’s attorney Joe Tacopina allegedly interacted with Stormy Daniels back in 2018 about potentially representing her in the Trump hush money case. That story went cold in the media universe, but as often tends to happen, the story has remained alive and well in the legal universe.

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg’s office is now demanding more information from Tacopina, according to Law And Crime. This makes it clear that Bragg is not simply going to let this alleged conflict of interest go. It’s ultimately up to the judge in the case to decide whether to force Tacopina off the case, and it looks like Bragg is still building up the evidence to make that argument to the judge.

We’ll see if Bragg is ultimately able to convince the judge to remove Tacopina. But at this rate Trump could well end up needing yet another attorney to replace yet another attorney. At this point we’ve lost track of how many attorneys Trump has blown through, and it remains mystifying why any attorney would want to be anywhere near any of his cases. They all keep losing as badly as he as he does.

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« Reply #6030 on: April 21, 2023, 05:33:16 AM »
Newly revealed tape of Ted Cruz has him telling Fox host to listen to 'actual facts' in 2020 coverage



Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was recorded in a call with Fox News and Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo urging her to stick to the facts in her coverage of the 2020 election.

"It can't just be, you know somebody tweeted this. It's got to be demonstrable facts that can be laid out with evidence because that's what a court of law is gonna look to, not just an allegation but actual facts," Cruz said in the tape that was given exclusively to MSNBC's Ari Melber on Thursday.

But Cruz went on to take another route, going to the floor of Congress to proclaim that lawmakers could not in good faith certify the 2020 election if there were questions about it.

"Let me be clear, I am not arguing for setting aside the result of this election. All of us are faced with two choices, both of which are lousy," Cruz told his colleagues. "One choice is vote against the objection. And tens of millions of Americans will see a vote against the objection as a statement that voter fraud doesn’t matter, isn’t real and shouldn’t be taken seriously. And a great many of us don’t believe that. On the other hand, most, if not all of us believe we should not set aside the results of an election just because our candidate may not have prevailed. And so I endeavored to look for door number three, a third option. And for that, I look to history to the precedent of the 1876 election, the Hayes Tilden election where this Congress appointed an electoral commission to examine claims of voter fraud, five house members, five senators, five Supreme Court justices, examined the evidence and rendered a judge judgment."

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« Reply #6031 on: April 21, 2023, 09:04:10 AM »
Federal judge declines to 'excuse' Trump from rape case



U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan declined to excuse Donald Trump from a defamation trial brought by author E. Jean Carroll after she claimed the former president raped her.

In an order issued on Thursday, Kaplan said that he would not grant Trump's request to be excused from the trial but would not order him to appear.

"First, the Court neither excuses nor declines to excuse Mr. Trump from attending the trial or from testifying in this case," Kaplan wrote. "As far as the Court is aware, Mr. Trump is under no legal obligation to be present or to testify. The plaintiff has made clear that she does not intend to call him as a witness. The decision whether to attend or to testify is his alone to make. There is nothing for the Court to excuse."

The judge also expressed skepticism at claims by Trump's attorneys that the former president's absence was "by design, avoids the logistical burdens that his presence, as the former president, would cause the courthouse."

"As it would do for any person with business before the Court, the Court will do everything within its power to enable Mr. Trump to exercise that right [to testify]," Kaplan said. "Moreover, it is entirely confident that the United States Marshals Service and the City of New York will do their parts in securing that right to Mr. Trump, just as they repeatedly have done in other cases involving security concerns."

Kaplan observed that Trump has been aware of the April 25 trial date for some time.

"There has been quite ample time within which to make whatever logistical arrangements should be made for his attendance, and certainly quite a bit more time than the five or six days between his recent indictment on state criminal charges and his arraignment on that indictment approximately one block from the location of the trial of this case," the judge remarked. "Mr. Trump is free to attend, to testify, or both. He is free also to do none of those things."

Kaplan also said attorneys were forbidden from telling the jury why Trump may or may not testify.

"In the meantime, there shall be no reference by counsel for Mr. Trump in the presence of the jury panel or the trial jury to Mr. Trump's alleged desire to testify or to the burdens that any absence on his part allegedly might spare, or might have spared, the Court or the City of New York," he said.

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Judge rules Trump can't claim 'logistical burdens' if he decides not to attend upcoming trial in NYC
The trial, in a case brought by E. Jean Carroll, is scheduled to start Tuesday.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-upcoming-trial-nyc-due-logistical-burdens-attorney/story?id=98709037

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