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'Damning' new J6 recording: Ted Cruz discusses how to force a reassessment of Biden's win



MSNBC's Ari Melber on Tuesday said that he had acquired a "damning" new recording of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) discussing how to potentially overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

"I think that the country deserves to have a credible assessment of these claims and what the evidence shows and the mechanism to try to force that is denying certification on the sixth," Cruz told Fox host Maria Bartiromo on Jan. 2, 2021.

"'Forcing this reassessment,' as he so dryly put it, of [Joe] Biden's actual win," alleged Melber, "was for Cruz one step in a larger coup plot. And that's what the next tape I'm going play for you shows after the violence on Jan. 6th, there was, of course, the ongoing process of trying to overthrow the election Cruz early in that day right before the Capitol was breached was one of 11 senators denying. I should point out, the majority of senators didn't go that far. That's just one thing. Then there's step two, which you can hear yourself tonight."

"Who's deciding who gets inaugurated?" Bartiromo asked.

"It would be the results of the commission and what they find, and if they found credible evidence of fraud that undermines confidence in the electoral results in any given state they would report on that," Cruz told her.

Melber explained that this is a tape of Cruz thinking that he was talking in secret.

"He admits it," Melber continues. "You heard the question — who decides who gets inaugurated that's what this is all about. You have a certified winner. You have the courts having passed up any potential challenge. So, at that point, it was President-elect Biden, and Cruz answers this fake, made-up commission he and his Trump buddy were planning to create to bureaucratize a coup. That's what they were trying to do. That was his answer. That's how they were trying to steal the race. The references to fraud, we know, one, he didn't believe in those we have that on tape. B. more importantly, the judges and fact-finding we have in the country didn't find there was that kind of fraud and then 3. that's all just talk anyway because they're literally trying to steal it for Trump, so all the words in the middle are just the words to get there."

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« Reply #6049 on: April 26, 2023, 03:41:58 AM »
Trump will be indicted again this summer! This time for election fraud in Georgia.

Georgia DA Says She’ll Announce Trump Indictment Decision This Summer
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fulton-county-district-attorney-fani-willis-says-trump-indictment-decision-coming-this-summer

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6050 on: April 26, 2023, 05:17:34 AM »
Special prosecutor Jack Smith just asked Fox News producer Abby Grossberg to hand over the new recordings of Ted Cruz talking about how the 2020 US presidential election could be overturned.

Ted Cruz caught on tape pushing fake "commission" to steal the 2020 election.

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« Reply #6051 on: April 26, 2023, 09:01:07 AM »
Former Fox producer Abby Grossberg claims Tucker Carlson was 'obsessed' with a specific Jan. 6 conspiracy



Former Fox News producer Abby Grossberg revealed all in a conversation to MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace on Tuesday.

She began by saying that she assumed that Tucker Carlson's persona on his nightly show was nothing more than an act. Carlson had worked for years at CNN and MSNBC and had remained largely moderate throughout his history. What Grossberg said, however, was that he was exactly like his persona on the show, she said.

She went on to reveal that some of the anti-Semitism she saw was when Fox was searching for a new "diversity ambassador" and couldn't find anyone other than a white Israeli man who they gave the gig to. Grossberg explained that Jewish was "diverse" in the Fox world. It came with a $10,000 stipend for the role, which they suggested could buy pizza for the whole office every week for a year.

Grossberg went on to say that Carlson was "obsessed" with searching for an FBI agent in the crowd at the Jan. 6 attacks on the Capitol. She said she couldn't find anyone. She then was asked to find a lawyer for one of the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers who were willing to say that there were FBI agents in the audience on Jan. 6 and were instigating the crowds. None of the lawyers would do it.

Still, Carlson went all in on the conspiracy about Oath Keeper Ray Epps being a secret FBI agent who pushed the crowd to attack the Capitol. Epps appeared on CBS's "60 Minutes" Sunday when he said that Carlson was "obsessed" with him.

"He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives," Epps explained.

The show revealed that Carlson featured Epps in at least 20 episodes. Epps explained that he thought it was because he was labeled as a scapegoat.

Grossberg was also ordered to search through the video footage of Jan. 6 to find FBI agents.

"I found it difficult to cover the stories they wanted me to cover. I wasn't expecting it," Grossberg said. "Maybe I should have. That's what some people say. Right toward the end of my time when the Jan. 6th tapes were coming out, Tucker was very set on finding an FBI person who was implanted in the crowd and spinning this conspiracy that they were ultimately the ones responsible for the Capitol attack, not Fox News — as they're about to go into the Dominion trial. It was really the FBI that set up this thing, not Fox telling the American people that the election was rigged and the voting machines did it."

She said she went back to them and said, "Look, there's no conspiracy theory here. I called the attorney who is representing one of the Proud Boys he told me on two occasions, 'There's no conspiracy. Get away from this stuff this is dangerous. Tell Tucker to stop. I will come on your show, but I'll walk off if he asks me this."

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'Very credible witness': Legal expert says Trump will struggle to put away civil rape case



The civil rape trial against former President Donald Trump has officially begun, with writer E. Jean Carroll laying out her allegations that the former president assaulted her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s — and Trump's defense counsel works to discredit it.

But the former president will have trouble putting this case away, argued former White House ethics czar Norm Eisen on CNN — because Carroll is presenting a credible account.

"Trump's lawyer is trying to poke holes in Carroll's evidence of this alleged assault, and is saying the jurors can hate donald trump but should take that to the ballot box instead of in this court of law," said anchor Wolf Blitzer. "What do you make of this opening statement?"

"Well, Wolf, Trump is going to attempt to through his lawyers in this case and more generally point to this — these accusations as being part of a political pattern," said Eisen. "For example, his attorneys have pointed to the timing, to the fact that E. Jean Carroll did not file a police report at the time, that she did not come forward publicly. But the problem is, Miss Carroll is a very credible witness. And she did talk about this with others. Some of them may testify. And of course, there's a larger pattern of conduct. I think the evidence is in Carroll's favor."

"The judge right now is demanding an answer on whether Trump will testify in person by the end of this week," said Blitzer. "How important is it for his defense that the former president actually shows up?"

"The jury is going to notice that E. Jean Carroll is there every day all day long, and the jury was very attentive today, very engaged," said Eisen. "And that there's an absence at the defense table. There's no avoiding that. That being said, having argued to juries, having served on juries, the defendant's absence here is not going to be dispositive, but I do think it leaves a gap in the courtroom. Some of those jurors are going to say, well, if Mr. Trump feels so strongly, where is he?"

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6052 on: April 26, 2023, 11:31:23 AM »
We all know that Donald Trump is a pathological liar but he's really outdone himself here.

Donald Trump is the failure who caused all the damage that President Biden inherited when he took office. Biden was tasked to clean up Trump's disasters. 

Trump left Biden with an economic disaster, a covid crisis, a vaccine shortage with no roll out plan, a border crisis, a foreign policy disaster, a fentanyl crisis, and civil unrest.

Inflation was already rising on Trump's watch due to the global pandemic which affected almost every country. So, to make the absurd lie that President Biden is responsible for global inflation is absolutely ridiculous.

Trump's deregulation (in which he boasted about) helped the banks to fail, caused train derailments, and the bacteria contamination at the Abbott baby formula manufacturing plant. When there is no regulations for safety, things will fall apart fast and they did thanks to Trump.             

Donnie is ranked at the bottom of presidential historian rankings where he should be. Biden is right near Ronnie Reagan and he hasn't even had one full term yet.

So, Criminal Donald wants to lie and blame Biden for his own disasters that he caused for 4 years when Biden wasn't even in office.

This is the same bogus lies and propaganda you'll hear each day from the right wing politicians, the right wing media (including Faux News) that desperately try to prop up Donnie.

It's absolutely pathetic!   


Trump busted for five big lies in his reaction to Biden's reelection announcement



President Joe Biden’s announcement that he is seeking reelection drew an almost immediate reaction from Donald Trump, who released a video Tuesday morning riddled with factual errors, according to an analysis in The Washington Post.

Trump’s reaction to Biden’s announcement, which he released in a video on his Truth Social website, features “one misleading attack after another,” Kessler writes.

Some of Trump’s false claims include his statement that “You could take the five worst presidents in American history, and put them together, and they would not have done the damage Joe Biden has done to our nation in just a few short years. Not even close,” is described by Kessler as “rhetorical overkill.”

Kessler notes a survey of historians conducted by the Siena College Research Institute of the best and worst presidents ranks Trump 43rd (from the bottom), Biden 19th (between No. 18 Ronald Reagan and No. 20 George H.W. Bush). Barack Obama ranked 11th.

Trump says that “Thanks to Joe Biden’s socialist spending calamity, American families are being decimated by the worst inflation in half a century,” an argument that Kessler writes neglects the complicated reasons behind inflation, a global pandemic for which an American president has little control.

Trump’s statement that “Banks are failing. Our currency is crashing and the dollar will soon no longer be the world standard, which will be our greatest defeat in over 200 years” is another factual miss, according to Kessler, who attributes some bank failures to their failure to prepare for inflationary conditions. The dollar didn’t become the world’s reserve currency until 1944.

Trump statement that “Real wages have been falling 24 months in a row — in other words, under Biden, workers have gotten a PAY CUT each and every month for two straight years,” is inaccurate, Kessler writes, noting that wages have been flat from December 2020 to February 2023, although wages are rising.

Trump’s assertion that “Our cities have been overrun with homelessness, drug addicts and violent criminals, who are being released from jail in mass with no retribution whatsoever, while law enforcement is weaponized against law-abiding conservatives or Republicans, or people they just don’t like” is described as a “mishmash of grievances” and false claims. He notes that although crime in New York has risen since 2020 it remains well below 1980 levels, when the city experienced a prolonged crime wave.

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Ivanka Trump splits from Don Jr. and Eric as $250 million fraud trial looms



Ivanka Trump has hired her own counsel to represent her as she faces a possible court appearance in the $250 million tax fraud case filed against her, her father Donald Trump and her brothers Don Jr. and Eric in their capacity as officers in the Trump Organization, Forbes reports.

Previously the former "first daughter" shared an attorney with her two brothers but, with the case filed by New York Attorney General Letitia James looming, she is now going her own way.

According to a previous report from the New York Times, "Ms. James’s civil case, which was filed in September and is expected to go to trial later this year, accuses Mr. Trump, his family business and three of his children of a 'staggering' fraud for overvaluing the former president’s assets by billions of dollars. The lawsuit seeks $250 million that Ms. James contends the Trumps reaped through those deceptions, and asks a judge to essentially run the former president out of business in the state if he is found liable at trial."

Forbes reported that, when James began her investigation, Don Jr and Eric hired Clifford Robert and Michael Farina of Robert & Robert to represent them and Ivanka agreed to be represented by the same attorneys soon after. The two were working as "local counsels" with another two Washington, DC-based attorneys that Ivanka had hired independently of her brothers, Reid Figel and Michael Kellogg of Kellogg Hansen.

Now, she's apparently had second thoughts and dropped all of the lawyers to retain a different firm.

The report states, "On Tuesday, the attorneys representing just Ivanka, Figel and Kellogg, withdrew from the case. Three days later, Bennet Moskowitz of Troutman Pepper informed the court that he was taking over as Ivanka’s counsel and that Robert and Farina, the attorneys Ivanka shared with her brothers, were no longer representing her."

According to Forbes, a schism on legal strategy appears to have occurred in March when Ivanka asked to delay the trial in a letter to Judge Arthur Engeron with the claim, "The complaint does not contain a single allegation that Ms. Trump directly or indirectly created, prepared, reviewed or certified any of her father’s financial statements. The complaint affirmatively alleges that other individuals were responsible for those tasks.”"

Forbes also notes that Ivanka Trump's new attorney Bennet Moskowitz previously represented the estate of Jeffrey Epstein.

You can read more here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2023/04/26/ivanka-trump-ditches-attorneys-in-fraud-suit-splitting-from-don-jr-and-eric/?sh=2353ca03256b

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Alvin Bragg pursuing order to stop Trump from discussing evidence

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is seeking a judicial order blocking former President Donald Trump from publicly discussing the evidence in the criminal trial against him, reported Bloomberg News on Tuesday.

“The risk that this defendant will use the covered materials inappropriately is substantial,” said Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Catherine McCaw in a filing, per the report. “Defendant has a long history of discussing his legal matters publicly — including by targeting witnesses, jurors, investigators, prosecutors, and judges with harassing, embarrassing, and threatening statements on social media and in other public forums — and he has already done so in this case.”

The indictment includes dozens of felony charges of bookkeeping fraud, stemming from the former president's alleged $130,000 hush payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election. Trump has denied this was a hush payment and that any part of the deal was illegal, but experts have suggested it could effectively be an illegal campaign finance scheme.

In the run-up to the indictment, as it became clearer he would be charged, Trump engaged in racist attacks on Bragg, and even posted an image of himself facing down Bragg with a baseball bat.

He also called for protests in the streets, which even fellow Republican leaders criticized, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA).

The New York case may not be the only criminal prosecution against Trump. Earlier this week, Fulton County, Georgia prosecutor Fani Willis urged law enforcement to prepare for protests ahead of her decision in the summer whether to bring charges against the former president for his role in the plot to interfere with the certification of Georgia's presidential vote.

https://www.rawstory.com/alvin-bragg-pursuing-order-to-stop-trump-from-discussing-evidence-report/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6055 on: April 27, 2023, 05:11:53 AM »
Law school professor unaware of any judge in history issuing the kind of warning that Trump got today



The E. Jean Carroll case began with an attack on the petitioner from Donald Trump on his personal social media site, Truth Social. When the trial began, Carroll's lawyer read the comments to the judge, who was furious with the defendant.

Trump's lawyer said he'd address it with his client.

"Well, I hope you're more successful," Judge Lewis Kaplan said. He noted Trump "may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability. ... And I think you know what I mean."

Trump has already been warned about social media posts in another case.

"Well, I spent a lot of time in federal court when I was a clerk and saw a lot of high-profile trials during that time," explained New York University Law School Professor Melissa Murray. "I don't think I can ever recall a judge chastising a litigant in this way, making it very clear that the litigant was not to do anything that might provoke public outrage toward the jury or even to promote political violence."

She went on to explain that it's for that reason it does seem like "an unorthodox step" for the judge.

"But one that's perhaps necessary given the unprecedented nature of both of these suits. He's the judge in the E. Jean Carroll case but again, the fact that this is a litigant, who's very prone to go on social media and incite his followers, I think is weighing heavily on both of these matters," Murray closed.

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