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Judge warns Donald Trump 'now sailing in harm's way' after Eric Trump flouts rape trial rules



U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan warned Joseph Tacopina, an attorney for Donald Trump, that his client was in "harm's way" after Eric Trump tweeted about E. Jean Carroll's rape allegations despite instructions from the judge.

During a Wednesday court hearing in New York City, Kaplan scolded the former president after he claimed on social media that the trial was a "scam."

The judge observed Trump was "tampering with a new source of potential liability" and said Tacopina should advise his client not to speak about the trial on social media.

Following a lunch break, attorneys for Carroll complained that Eric Trump had posted complaints about the case on Wednesday despite the judge's warning.

"Jean Carroll's legal battle against my father is allegedly being FUNDED by political activist Reid Hoffman (co-founder of Linkedin)," Eric Trump said in a tweet. "A civil lawsuit, being funded by a billionaire, with no direct involvement in the case, out of pure hatred, spite or fear of a formidable candidate, is an embarrassment to our country, should be illegal, and tells you everything you need to know about the case at hand."

Kaplan warned that Trump was "now sailing in harm's way with his son."

"If I was in your shoes, I'd be having a conversation with your client," Kaplan told Tacopina.

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Judge in rape trial may have warned of 'obstruction of justice crimes' for Trump: former prosecutor



The federal judge overseeing E. Jean Carroll’s civil lawsuit alleging Donald Trump raped and defamed her, on Wednesday strongly warned the ex-president’s attorney just hours after Trump had made several negative social media posts attacking the lawsuit and his accuser.

Now a well-known former federal prosecutor is explaining the judge may have something stronger in mind than contempt of court.

Wednesday morning, before the trial got underway, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan warned Joe Tacopino, Trump’s attorney, his client’s remarks on social media were “entirely inappropriate,” as Law & Crime’s Adam Klasfeld had reported.

Tacopino promised to have a talk with Trump.

That apparently did not solve the problem.

“Carroll’s lawyer notes the Eric Trump tweeted about him,” Klasfeld reported later Wednesday afternoon, referring to Trump’s son Eric. “After that, Kaplan issues a stern warning to Tacopina, saying the posts could put the ex-prez and ‘conceivably’ his son ‘in harm’s way.'”

“If I were in your shoes, I’d be having a conversation with your client,” Judge Kaplan said, as Law & Crime’s Adam Klasfeld reported.

Kaplan added, “there are some relevant United States statutes here and somebody on your side ought to be thinking about them.”

When Kaplan first warned Tacopino Wednesday morning, some assumed he might have been suggesting possible contempt of court charges for Trump, should the ex-president continue.

Former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance, now a professor of law, MSNBC contributor, and podcaster says Judge Kaplan might be thinking of something more substantial.

“The judge in the E Jean Carroll trial is taking Trump’s derogatory social media posts from this morning seriously,” Vance writes. “His reference to other federal statutes is likely to the 18 USC 1500 series of obstruction of justice crimes.”

Cornell Law School’s Legal Information Institute explains, “Obstruction of justice broadly refers to actions by individuals that illegally prevent or influence the outcome of a government proceeding. While the quintessential example of obstruction of justice involves tampering in a judicial proceeding, there are numerous laws on obstruction of justice, covering all branches of government and targeting different kinds of obstruction.”

https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1651309823986728965


Federal court blocks Trump's effort to stop Pence from testifying to Jack Smith



A federal panel for the D.C. Court of Appeals has denied former President Donald Trump's last-ditch effort to block a subpoena for former Vice President Mike Pence to testify to the January 6 investigation being led by special counsel Jack Smith, reported CNN on Wednesday.

"The former president has repeatedly tried and failed to close off some answers from witnesses close to him in the special counsel’s investigation. This latest order from the DC Circuit Court of Appeals likely will usher in Pence’s grand jury testimony quickly – an unprecedented development in modern presidential history," reported Katelyn Polantz. "The unanimous decision, from Judges Patricia Millett, Robert Wilkins and Greg Katsas on the DC Circuit, came in a sealed case on Wednesday night that CNN previously identified as Trump’s executive privilege challenge to Pence."

Katsas is a Trump appointee, while Millett and Wilkins are appointees of former President Barack Obama.

"Trump asked the DC Circuit for emergency intervention weeks ago. The court refused to put on hold Pence’s subpoena and to override the lower-court ruling, flatly denying Trump’s requests," noted the report. "Trump could try to appeal again and even press the issue at the Supreme Court. Yet he gave up pushing several past executive privilege challenges to special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation after similar rulings from this court of appeals."

Pence himself initially resisted efforts to testify in the probe, arguing that the Speech and Debate Clause of the Constitution privileges the conversations that he had on that day in his capacity as President of the Senate, overseeing the counting of electoral votes. However, after a federal judge ordered him to comply with Smith's subpoena, Pence declined to challenge the order and agreed to cooperate.

Read More Here: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/politics/trump-loses-appeal-pence-testimony/index.html


Trump made a 'big mistake' on the first day of defamation trial — and then it got worse: former prosecutor

The defense of Donald Trump in a Manhattan courtroom, where he stands accused of rape and defamation by writer E. Jean Carroll, got off to a rough start on Tuesday, claims a former prosecutor.

In a column for the Daily Beast, attorney and legal analyst Shan Wu stated that the former president's choice not to attend the opening proceedings, while his accuser was in full view of the jury pool, could come back to haunt him and that his attorney's initial approach didn't help matters.

Trump's absence, in a trial that could end with him branded as a rapist as he makes a third bid for the Oval Office, may have already left jurors with questions about his innocence that his attorneys will have to overcome.

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Hate crimes have doubled since Trump entered politics – with a new surge expected: study



A new report shows an "unmistakable pattern" of hate crimes reported during presidential election seasons.

FBI data going back to 2008 reveals an increase in crimes targeting racial groups around general elections, according to the report by the civil rights group Leadership Conference Education Fund. Those attacks have spiked more than 80 percent since 2015, reported USA Today.

"What it shows is an extremely disturbing and sadly not so surprising trend," said fund CEO Maya Wiley.

Most hate crimes are targeted against Black people, but religious groups such as Jews and Muslims are frequently hit, as are LGBTQ people. The crimes shot up with the election of Barack Obama -- the nation's first Black president -- in 2008 and have nearly doubled since Donald Trump entered politics in 2015.

"We should assume that unless we're acting now, that we're going to see another increase in hate crimes in the 2024 election cycle," Wiley said.

Not all hate crimes -- which can include acts of violence or threats of violence -- are carried out by white supremacists, but the report shows those groups have been particularly active during the past four presidential election cycles.

"We do see a difference when leaders speak out, we do see a difference when we support communities coming together and getting to know each other," Wiley said. "We can do that in advance of the election cycle, so that we can try to change this devastating, historic trend."

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Conservative paints a portrait of doom if the GOP doesn't dump Trump

A clearly exasperated former speechwriter for President George W. Bush warned Republicans there appears to be little chance that Donald Trump will be successful in his third bid for the White House due to his overwhelmingly poor numbers with independents and swing voters.

In his column for the Washington Post, conservative Marc Theissen claimed the 2024 presidential election will be a debacle for the GOP if they don't dump Trump and find another candidate — any candidate — to head the ticket.

Citing recent poll numbers that show the former president is almost universally loathed by swing voters.

A Wall Street Journal poll (conducted by pro-Trump super PAC pollster Tony Fabrizio) found that Biden leads Trump by a massive 39 points: 54 percent to 15 percent.

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A top Putin official came to the U.S. and complained about Tucker Carlson being fired



Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, a top Putin official for decades, traveled to the United States for a United Nations Security Council meeting this week and on Tuesday, as he chaired that meeting, with the UN logo in the background, complained that Tucker Carlson had been fired from Fox News.

"Perhaps it would be useful to consider how things are with freedom of speech in the United States," Lavrov said, through a translator (video below). "I've heard that Tucker Carlson has left Fox News. It's curious news. What is this related to? One can only guess.But clearly, the wealth of views in the American information space has suffered as a result."

Lavrov also told the UN that the "First Amendment to the United States' Constitution apparently means nothing in practice," a false statement given that Fox News is a private corporation not a government entity.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1651170784767795200

Next month will mark the six-year anniversary of when Lavrov, along with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak – an alleged top spy recruiter for Russia – were invited into the Oval Office by Donald Trump, during which he gave them code word classified top secret intelligence, putting Israeli spies at risk, and celebrated his firing the day before of FBI Director Jim Comey. No American journalists were allowed to be present, but a photographer from Russian state media was there to document what historian Michael Beschloss described as a "jovial secret meeting."

"Day after Trump fired Comey five years ago today, then-President had his jovial secret meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak:"




Tuesday night CNN's Erin Burnett (video below) asked, "Why is Lavrov obsessed with Tucker Carlson?"

Before we look at her answer, here's one answer from Marc Polymeropoulos of the Atlantic Council's Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security. He was a senior CIA officer for 26 years.

"Russia MFA [Ministry of Foreign Affairs] saw Tucker as their propaganda arm. It was just too easy. Now they r sad," he tweeted.

Burnett appeared to agree.

"It's incredible that he would do this," she told CNN viewers. "You may ask why is that because in Russia, Tucker Carlson is a star for repeatedly being pro-Russian, anti-American, and anti-Ukraine. Listen to this," she said, queuing up video of the now-former top Fox News propagandist.

"Might be worth asking yourself since it is getting pretty serious. What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist, as he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Does he eat dogs? These are fair questions, and the answer to all of them is no. Vladimir Putin didn't do any of that," Carlson told his viewers, launching into his pro-Putin schtick which included remarks, some of which, appear to have no basis in known fact:

"The Russians don't want American missiles on their border. They don't want a hostile government next door. Ideologues within the Biden administration did not want a negotiated peace in Ukraine. They wanted all along, and it's very clear now, a regime change war against Russia."

"Maybe they just wanted no war, right?" Burnett said, "just respect the border."

"So here's the thing: since the start of the war, Russian state media has been using things like that Tucker Carlson to prove and to bolster their points. The two frankly have been in lockstep on their spin," Burnett explained, adding more reasons why Lavrov was so upset that Tucker Carlson – and thus Vladimir Putin – lost a huge platform.

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Pence is Jack Smith's 'key legal battle' — and his testimony was a massive victory: reporter

Former Vice President Mike Pence testified for several hours in the January 6 investigation led by Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith — after months of Pence stonewalling and raising constitutional objections, and Trump being denied a last-minute legal motion to block the testimony from taking place.

This was one of the keystone legal victories Smith needed to secure, Sara Murray explained on CNN's "The Situation Room" on Thursday.

"What does this say about where the special counsel, the federal Justice Department, special counsel, the criminal investigation of Donald Trump now stands?" asked anchor Wolf Blitzer.

"It doesn't mean they are done interviewing all the witnesses that they want to talk to," said Murray. "But you are at a point where they've interviewed this pinnacle witness ... if you're talking about someone in the mix, who was having conversations directly with Donald Trump, someone who was the target of not only Donald Trump's pressure campaign but frankly the target of a number of the rioters who were showing up and chanting 'Hang Mike Pence,' he is the witness at the center of that. He is the key battle you need to wage."

Smith has already secured testimony from a number of other Trump officials, noted Murray — however, "when you're talking about the former vice president, that is a different level of a court fight."

"So the special counsel was able to prevail on that. They were able to get that testimony," said Murray, adding. "It doesn't mean that is the end of the road for their investigation. There may be things that prosecutors learn in the testimony from Mike Pence today that they want to follow up on."


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Donnie always needs his stooges to help get him off the hook for his crimes. Well, it ain't happening this time

Trump attorneys ask House Republicans to bail him out of classified documents mess



Donald Trump's lawyers are asking House Republicans to bail him out of the Department of Justice investigation into his mishandling of classified documents, according to a report Thursday.

Trump attorneys Timothy Parlatore, John Rowley and James Trusty sent a letter to House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Turner (R-OH) asking for the GOP-led House of Representatives to take over the federal investigation, reported The Independent.

“[The Department of Justice is] not the appropriate agency to conduct investigations pertaining to the mishandling or spillage of classified material,” Trump's attorneys wrote to the GOP lawmaker. "[This investigation] is antithetical to the principles of a fair and impartial search for the truth”.

“[It is] abundantly clear through this investigation that the institutional practice and procedures within the White House for the handling of classified materials drastically differ from the long-established standard operating procedures employed by various agencies of the intelligence community as well as the U.S. military,” the attorneys added.

The Justice Department routinely investigates unauthorized retention or distribution of material related to national security, but the former president's lawyers asked for a "legislative solution" to halt the "ham-handed criminal investigations of matters that are inherently not criminal."

The National Archives had sought the return of those documents from Trump for months before the Department of Justice sought and then executed a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago home, but the ex-president's attorneys complained that federal investigators had misled the federal magistrate who granted the request.

“[The Justice Department] needlessly ratcheted up the adversarial nature of the matter, resulting in a waste of time and resources and a disturbing loss of public trust. This serves no legitimate purpose, as DOJ’s actions further erode constitutional rights while blindly compromising its own ability to provide a comprehensive account of what happened,” the attorneys wrote.

“From the inception of this matter, rather than working cooperatively to ensure the return of all marked documents and correct any procedural failures, the DOJ team chose a path of aggressive combativeness," they added. "In doing so, it compromised the evidence, constitutional rights, and, in many instances, the professional ethics of its prosecutors. It has sought to criminalize a civil matter, pursue an unprecedented investigation of a former President while bristling at transparency, and is desperately seeking to justify its abominable conduct."

Read More Here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-classified-documents-house-gop-b2328141.html


Mike Pence spent all day before the special counsel's grand jury: report

NBC News is reporting that former Vice President Mike Pence spent 9 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Thursday speaking before the grand jury impaneled in Washington, D.C. by special counsel Jack Smith.

Wednesday night, the final appeals court shut down Donald Trump's demand to keep Pence silent. The only option left for Trump was for him to appeal to the Supreme Court. But before Trump could do it, Pence was sitting before the grand jury answering questions.

NBC News reported they "spotted multiple black SUVs with tinted windows entering the parking garage in the morning. Two black SUVs entered the courthouse garage at around 9 a.m., an entrance that would allow witnesses to head up to the grand jury rooms on the third floor without being seen in the public areas of the courthouse."

The report noted that it's a huge step forward in zeroing in on Trump's role by having Pence recount specifically what the former president said to him in demanding he break the law on Jan. 6.

Pence previously revealed some details about what happened on Jan. 6 in his memoir, but he hasn't been willing to answer questions under oath until now.

On Jan. 6, Pence came about 40 feet from the attackers that were seeking to capture him. A gallows was erected on the Capitol lawn and the crowd was chanting "hang Mike Pence."

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Pence testifies before federal grand jury investigating Trump's role in Jan. 6

Special counsel Jack Smith is investigating whether Trump acted unlawfully in his efforts to overturn his 2020 presidential election loss and stop the peaceful transfer of power

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Mike Pence appeared Thursday before the federal grand jury convened as part of the special counsel investigation into former President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss and remain in power, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The testimony is a significant development in the special counsel’s probe, as Pence could provide critical insights into Trump’s thinking in the days leading up to the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. He published a memoir and a Wall Street Journal opinion article detailing several of his interactions with Trump, but some details were left vague. Special counsel Jack Smith’s team is particularly interested in Trump’s efforts to try to block the certification of the election, NBC News has reported.

Pence appeared amid an increased security presence at the federal courthouse in Washington on Thursday. NBC News spotted multiple black SUVs with tinted windows entering the parking garage in the morning. At around 9 a.m., two black SUVs entered the courthouse garage, an entrance that would allow witnesses to head up to the grand jury rooms on the third floor without being seen in the public areas of the courthouse.

The SUVs left the courthouse at about 4:30 p.m.

When reporters asked James Boasberg, the chief judge of U.S. Dictrict Court for Washington, who oversees grand jury proceedings, what was happening, he demurred.

A spokesman for the special counsel declined to comment.

Last month, a federal judge ordered Pence to comply with a subpoena to testify and Trump failed in a bid to block his former vice president's testimony. On Wednesday, a federal appeals court rejected Trump's appeal.

Pence testified as five members of the Proud Boys — the far-right group that Trump told to "stand back and stand by" before the 2020 election — awaited a jury's verdict in a seditious conspiracy trial. During closing arguments, an attorney for former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio argued that the federal government was trying to make Tarrio a "scapegoat" for Trump, whom he blamed for the attack on the Capitol.

In Pence's bid to not testify, his team had argued — partly successfully — that he was protected by the Constitution’s “speech or debate” clause, which details that lawmakers cannot be forced to testify about legislative activity. His team said the clause should apply to him because he was acting in his role as president of the Senate when Jan. 6 unfolded.

The federal judge ruled that while the speech or debate clause gave some limited protection to Pence, it did not prevent him from testifying about alleged illegal behavior by Trump.

Smith subpoenaed Pence in February. Smith was appointed in November by Attorney General Merrick Garland to head the Justice Department investigation into Trump’s role in Jan. 6 and his handling of classified documents after he announced his 2024 presidential run.

In a Newsmax interview last month, Pence maintained that he has nothing to hide.

“I believe we did our duty that day under the Constitution of the United States, and in this matter, I thought it was important that we stand on that constitutional principle again,” Pence said. “But we’re currently speaking to our attorneys about the proper way forward."

Pence has previously broken with Trump over the Jan. 6 insurrection.

“President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election,” Pence said at the Gridiron Dinner for politicians and journalists in March. “And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mike-pence-testify-federal-grand-jury-donald-trump-rcna77281

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Jack Smith wants to investigate tapes of Ted Cruz scheming to overturn the 2020 election



Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith wants to look at the recently revealed tapes of Sen. Ted Cruz (R) outlining a proposal for overturning the 2020 presidential election with a Fox News host, reported The Daily Beast on Thursday.

The tapes of Cruz were first revealed by Abby Grossberg, a former producer at Fox who sued the network, alleging a toxic, misogynistic work environment and a scheme to coerce her into giving misleading deposition testimony in the lawsuit against the network by Dominion Voting Systems. Dominion's suit was settled for $787.5 million, but Grossberg's litigation is ongoing.

"Grossberg’s attorney, Gerry Filippatos, told CNN on Wednesday that federal investigators reached out several weeks ago, after they began publicizing the existence of the tapes," reported A.J. McDougall. "'We’re in the process of negotiating a targeted subpoena for Abby’s electronic data, so they can have what they want,' he said. He added that she remains committed to cooperating fully with the federal probe."

"Jack Smith, the special counsel looking into Trump’s potential mishandling of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, is also reportedly interested in the tapes, according to an interview Filippatos gave to MSNBC on Tuesday," the report continued.

On the tapes, Cruz laid out to Fox host Maria Bartiromo his idea of establishing a "commission" that would investigate former President Donald Trump's baseless claims of election fraud, and give Congress a pretext to reject certifying the electors, a process that would have let Republicans elect Trump in a vote of state House delegations.

"I think that the country deserves to have a credible assessment of these claims and what the evidence shows and the mechanism to try to force that is denying certification on the sixth," Cruz said in the recordings.

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Legal experts 'expect decisions soon' from special counsel on indicting Donald Trump



Former Vice President Mike Pence’s “historic” testimony before a federal grand jury investigating Donald Trump‘s efforts surrounding the January 6, 2021 insurrection and to overturn the 2020 election should allow Special Counsel Jack Smith to reach a decision “soon” on whether or not to charge the ex-president.

“Expect decisions soon from Jack Smith. Very little reason to dawdle now, particularly on MAL charges,” said Andrew Weissman, referring to Trump’s unlawful retention and refusal to return classified documents he kept at Mar-a-Lago. Weissman is a former FBI General Counsel, served two decades at the Dept. of Justice, and was the lead prosecutor during Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

“Another historic benchmark: Donald Trump’s VP, Mike Pence, just testified in the grand jury about the crimes of his former boss,” said Glenn Kirschner, a federal prosecutor for 30 years who is now an MSNBC legal analyst. “Take it from this old prosecutor-Pence’s testimony is sharply incriminating of Trump & moves the needle further in the direction of a Trump indictment.”

“You want to hear it through Pence’s eyes,” said former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance on MSNBC Thursday afternoon, explaining that Smith needed to understand Trump’s actions as his vice president saw them. She noted it’s likely “close” to the end of Smith’s investigation, but hedged, “I’m not sure that I would want to go that far,” as saying it’s the end of the process, before going to the grand jury to ask for an indictment. Vance noted there are “procedural” issues to address, including being able to hand over discovery and “negotiating” with witnesses to ensure they want to testify.

MSNBC anchor and chief legal correspondent Ari Melber offered additional details on why Pence’s testimony is so critical, including that with it Jack Smith can now make decisions not only on charging Trump, but others who may have been involved.

https://twitter.com/AWeissmann_/status/1651699547872059392



Ari Melber outlines why Mike Pence's testimony matters more than anyone else's in Jan. 6 probe



At the top of his show, less than an hour after news broke that former Vice President Mike Pence was seen entering and leaving the grand jury Thursday, Ari Melber had a list of why he's such a major witness.

There are low-level staffers, Secret Service agents, and even Trump's former chief-of-staff, who have appeared before the grand jury, but no one is as big as Pence, he explained. No one can sink Trump more than Pence can.

His first example is that there is evidence that showed Pence had first-hand information very few others had.

"There's a lot of talk and hyperbole, but I'm saying that as a reported piece of information, we have from covering all this, Mike Pence, from the documents and from the transcripts that the Jan. 6th provided, and from a lot of other indications that we have, has access to information that few or no other people have. It's the kind of information that the DOJ wants because it could inform quite decisively whether other people are indicted or not in this coup probe."

Outside of that one major thing, Melber had his list of things Pence knows. First is what were "Trump's demands to carry out a coup" before the Jan. 6th. What Melber called "the early stuff."

Second, "Trump's effort to steal the election at the state level." One thing that was caught on tape in calls to Georgia officials was Trump's demand for the Republicans there to "find" him 11,780 votes, which was the necessary number to win the state.

The third question, "what does Pence know about Donald Trump pushing to execute on that [Peter] Navarro - [John] Eastman plan to try to jam Congress with fraudulent elector slates and other basically false, misleading, or potentially illegal government submissions."

Those would then be used for Melber's fourth point: "What does Pence know about whether Trump actually issued unlawful orders for Pence to claim powers he did not have to stage a coup and overturn the election on Jan. 6?"

His bullet point under "number four" is there's a difference between a president musing about something or asking someone something. A president all the time could ask the Pentagon or lawyers, can we do this? Could we do that should we do this? That's a decision-making process. Nothing criminal about that. That's different from knowing something is illegal and issuing an unlawful order."

Melber explained that Pence knows better than anyone in the White House whether Trump was just "musing" or he was pushing unethical moves.

It's unknown what special counsel Jack Smith asked Pence today, but those are some of the places he could begin.

The testimony comes just 24 hours after the Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee got a request from Trump's lawyers to get the DOJ to dismiss the investigation into the documents stolen by Trump from the White House.

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Trump is nervous about the special counsel — and that’s why he begged Republicans to help: Mueller prosecutor



Andrew Weissmann, who previously worked as a prosecutor with special counsel Robert Mueller's team, explained that former President Donald Trump seems to be running scared to the House Republicans for help as the Justice Department probes continue.

Speaking to MSNBC on Thursday, Weissmann discussed Trump's failed attempt to block former Vice President Mike Pence from testifying to special counsel Jack Smith. The only option left for Trump is to appeal to the Supreme Court with his executive privilege argument, but the legal experts don't think it would be successful.

When it comes to the documents scandal, Trump's lawyers sent a bombastic letter to the Republican House Intelligence Committee chairman Wednesday, asking that they intervene and stop the Justice Department from investigating the documents Trump took from the White House and refused to return. The letter focused entirely on the first 15 boxes that Trump handed over after some persuasion by the National Archives. What happened in the year that followed, however, was a battle between Trump and the FBI over the rest of the documents he'd been hiding at his Florida country club.

"I think this is basically a PR move, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way. That's sometimes all you really can do when your defense counsel is signaled to your allies what kind of things they should be saying. There's no way that Congress, the House and the Senate, and then the president are going to be intervening to say that the Department of Justice cannot go forward on a case," he continued.

"Why didn't the former president return them and apparently obstruct the investigation as well?" he asked. "So, it isn't in any way a complete defense that's been articulated, but I think it's sort of the best you can do if you're defense counsel with a very, very difficult set of facts."

Weissmann explained that this is a perfect example of the desperation Trump's legal team is suffering under. So, they're going for a PR defense or making hay politically.

And "try and get the House to do what they're doing with Alvin Bragg to try and in some way get the public to disagree with what's going on here," he explained. "But as I said, it's really — at most, it is a sort of partial PR defense because it does not deal with why the former president didn't just return these."

He explained that the one thing the document revealed was a new excuse for why they ended up at Mar-a-Lago, blaming a staffer for raking everything into a box without sifting through it.

"In other words, if he just mistakenly took them, why didn't he just do what Mike Pence has done and say, 'Oh, here's what we have, and I'm going to turn this over, and you can come look at all the documents to make sure they're actually all returned,'" Weissmann closed. "So it's really not a great pr move as I said, remember, this is defense counsel, and you know, sometimes you don't have a lot to work with."

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We're still suffering from the 4 year Trump disaster as his deregulation caused Silicon Valley Bank to collapse.


US Fed points finger at Trump-era rollback for SVB demise



(Reuters) -The Federal Reserve on Friday blamed the deregulatory zeal that occurred during the Trump era for contributing to the second-largest bank failure in U.S. history, appearing to take a clear stand on an acrimonious policy divide in Washington.

Amid the turmoil that Silicon Valley Bank's implosion unleashed on the financial system last month, some Republicans and industry advocates have argued strenuously that a 2018 roll-back of post-financial-crisis safeguards was not to blame.

But the Fed's searing 100-page post mortem says bipartisan legislation in 2018 loosened post-financial crisis safeguards, undermining oversight by hindering the work of bank supervisors and encouraging the capital weakness that ultimately proved fatal to SVB.

Greg Baer, president of the Bank Policy Institute, a lobby group, said the Fed had blamed the 2018 changes when the results of its own review showed "the fundamental misjudgments made by its examination teams."

According to the Fed, SVB's management bore significant blame and bank examiners also made grave missteps. The report, however, also pointed to the Fed's vice chair for supervision at the time, without naming him, for creating what it said was a culture of weak and lax supervision that favored inaction.

Randal Quarles, who was appointed to the Fed by President Donald Trump in 2017, oversaw the Fed's bank supervision until his resignation in 2021.

Quarles rejected the report's findings about his work, saying it cited "no evidence at all" that Fed supervisory policy had gone astray during his tenure.

"Having acknowledged that there is no evidence, the rest of the 102-page report makes no effort to pretend to find any," Quarles said in a statement he shared with Reuters.

The Fed did not offer any further comment on criticism of its report and actions.

Elsewhere, the report appeared only to harden long-set policy positions. Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, who serves on the Senate Banking Committee and has led post-crisis reforms to rein in financial sector excesses, said the report "clearly identified" 2018 legislation among the "major contributors" to SVB's demise.

Patrick McHenry, the Republican chair of the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, blasted the Fed report as a "thinly veiled attempt" to justify positions like those of Warren.

In 2018, Senate Republicans began rolling back key provisions of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street reforms enacted after the global financial crisis. Among other things, the new law raised the threshold at which the most intensive oversight is required to $250 billion in assets, from $50 billion, a key point cited in the report.

The reforms ultimately meant looser regulation and lower capital requirements at precisely the wrong time, according to the report.

"While higher supervisory and regulatory requirements may not have prevented the firm's failure, they would likely have bolstered the resilience of Silicon Valley Bank," the report said.

The collapse of SVB and Signature Bank last month burned a $23 billion hole in a government fund for deposit insurance, which officials are preparing to recoup in special fees expected to fall most heavily on the largest U.S. banks.

It was unclear on Friday whether the Fed report made it more likely lawmakers could ultimately undo 2018's deregulation, with a narrowly divided Congress consumed by a battle over raising the government's borrowing limit to avert a default on U.S. sovereign debt in the coming months.

According to the report, the 2018 law caused the Fed to raise the supervisory threshold for large banks, i.e. those smaller than the "global systemically important banks," to $100 billion in assets from $50 billion - delaying stricter oversight of SVB "by at least three years."

Had SVB been subject to the capital and liquidity requirements that existed before, the report said, SVB "may have more proactively managed its liquidity and capital positions or maintained a different balance sheet composition."

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Worried prosecutors want to stop Trump from endangering witnesses at his criminal trial



Prosecutors fear former President Donald Trump will use his criminal trial to attack and threaten witnesses — and they are moving to try to prevent that from happening, reported the Associated Press on Friday.

Trump faces dozens of felony counts of business record fraud related to his alleged $130,000 hush payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, which helped conceal the scandal from the public during the 2016 presidential cycle. Trump has denied anything illegal took place and claims the whole story was a shakedown.

"The Manhattan district attorney’s office filed court papers Monday asking Judge Juan Manuel Merchan for a protective order that would put strict guardrails around Trump’s access to and use of evidence turned over by prosecutors prior to trial. That kind of evidence sharing, called discovery, is routine in criminal cases, and is intended to help ensure a fair trial," reported Michael R. Sisak. "Prosecutors want to block Trump from posting evidence to social media or providing it to third parties. They also want to restrict how he views certain sensitive material, asking that he do so only in the presence of his lawyers — and that he not be able to copy, photograph or transcribe those records."

"Trump 'has a longstanding and perhaps singular history of attacking witnesses, investigators, prosecutors, trial jurors, grand jurors, judges, and others involved in legal proceedings against him,' Assistant District Attorney Catherine McCaw wrote," said the report. "That behavior, she said, has put 'those individuals and their families at considerable safety risk.'"

Trump has been publicly attacking legal officials involved in litigation against him for years. In 2015, he infamously attacked Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit, claiming that he couldn't judge him fairly because Curiel is of Mexican descent and "I'm building a wall." He has already gone on the offensive in this case, making several racist attacks against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and posting a social media image of himself facing down Bragg with a baseball bat.

"With Trump sitting at the defense table just feet away from her, McCaw told Merchan that a protective order was needed to 'ensure the sanctity of the proceedings as well as the sanctity of the discovery materials,'" said the report. "At the time, McCaw said prosecutors and Trump’s lawyers were close to a joint agreement with many of the restrictions prosecutors are now asking Merchan to impose. Negotiations later broke down, leading prosecutors to seek the judge’s intervention."

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'Expect decisions soon’: Experts say Jack Smith could decide on charging Trump now that Pence has testified



Former Vice President Mike Pence's "historic" testimony before a federal grand jury investigating Donald Trump's efforts surrounding the January 6, 2021 insurrection and to overturn the 2020 election should allow Special Counsel Jack Smith to reach a decision "soon" on whether or not to charge the ex-president.

"Expect decisions soon from Jack Smith. Very little reason to dawdle now, particularly on MAL charges," said Andrew Weissman, referring to Trump's unlawful retention and refusal to return classified documents he kept at Mar-a-Lago. Weissman is a former FBI General Counsel, served two decades at the Dept. of Justice, and was the lead prosecutor during Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

'Another historic benchmark: Donald Trump’s VP, Mike Pence, just testified in the grand jury about the crimes of his former boss," said Glenn Kirschner, a federal prosecutor for 30 years who is now an MSNBC legal analyst. "Take it from this old prosecutor-Pence’s testimony is sharply incriminating of Trump & moves the needle further in the direction of a Trump indictment."

"You want to hear it through Pence's eyes," said former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance on MSNBC Thursday afternoon, explaining that Smith needed to understand Trump's actions as his vice president saw them. She noted it's likely "close" to the end of Smith's investigation, but hedged, "I'm not sure that I would want to go that far," as saying it's the end of the process, before going to the grand jury to ask for an indictment. Vance noted there are "procedural" issues to address, including being able to hand over discovery and "negotiating" with witnesses to ensure they want to testify.

MSNBC anchor and chief legal correspondent Ari Melber offered additional details on why Pence's testimony is so critical, including that with it Jack Smith can now make decisions not only on charging Trump, but others who may have been involved.

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Watch: Trump mocked over his baffling mispronunciation of 'Lenin'



Donald Trump used a baffling pronunciation of Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin's name at a campaign stop in New Hampshire.

The typical American pronunciation for the communist revolutionary is "Lennon," but the former president repeatedly pronounced it as "Leneen," and it's not the first time, reported the Washington Post.

“You know Leneen — did anyone ever hear of Leneen?” Trump said in New Hampshire. “He said, the vote counter is far more important than the candidate. Has anyone ever heard that — Lennon. Leneen, as they say, as they say in Russia.”

Trump used the same pronunciation during a campaign rally for Republican Senate candidate Mehmet Oz in September, and he called attention to the way he said it, which he implied was fancier.

“Did you ever hear the statement by, I believe it was Leneen," Trump said at the time. Did anyone ever hear of Leneen? People would say it with less sophistication: Lennon. Leneen! I like the way they say that.”

The Post's Philip Bump pulled up video of Lenin's current successor, Russian president Vladimir Putin, and found he pronounced it as "Leenin," more or less, and spoke to a woman at London’s Russian Language Centre who said it the same way, although she pointed out his last name started with a "soft L," which resulted in something like an L-Y combination.

It turns out that Trump's attribution of his quote about vote counting didn't actually come from Lenin, and most people commonly misattributed it to another Soviet leader -- Joseph Stalin.

"Or as sophisticated Russians say: Joseph Staleen," Bump wrote.

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Jack Smith appears poised to nail Trump with 'a series of wire fraud charges': former prosecutor



Reacting to a New York Times report that investigators working for special counsel Jack Smith are focusing on evidence of wire fraud related to Donald Trump's 2020 presidential election loss, former prosecutor Glenn Kirschner suggested a conspiracy indictment might be forthcoming that encompasses those charges.

Speaking with MSNBC's "The SaPersonay Show" host Jonathan Capehart, the former prosecutor claimed such charges were hinted at by a California judge last year.

According to the Times, "Led by the special counsel Jack Smith, prosecutors are trying to determine whether Mr. Trump and his aides violated federal wire fraud statutes as they raised as much as $250 million through a political action committee by saying they needed the money to fight to reverse election fraud even though they had been told repeatedly that there was no evidence to back up those fraud claims."

The report added, "In the past several months, prosecutors have issued multiple batches of subpoenas in a wide-ranging effort to understand Save America, which was set up shortly after the election as Mr. Trump’s main fund-raising entity."

Asked where Smith and his investigators are headed, Kirschner replied, "Wire fraud is the stock and trade of the federal prosecutors. If you use the wires, it's an old-time term, it used to mean the TV, the radio, the telephone -- now it's the internet -- as part of a scheme to defraud others out of their money."

"Now would Donald Trump would ever do something like that?" he sarcastically asked.

"Those are fairly easy charges to prove," he continued. "So I have a feeling, you can see a series of wire fraud charges in what I would predict would be the larger charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States."

"Because. remember Jonathan, a federal judge in California [Judge David O. Carter] ruled previously there was enough evidence or preponderance of the evidence that Donald Trump committed the crime of conspiracy to defraud the United States," he concluded.

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