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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6208 on: June 07, 2023, 03:45:30 AM »
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It now turns out Mark Meadows has already testified against in BOTH Jack Smith probes.

Earlier today the New York Times reported that Mark Meadows had already testified against Donald Trump to the grand jury in Jack Smith’s January 6th probe. Now ABC News is reporting that Meadows has also testified to the grand jury in Jack Smith’s classified documents probe.

This still doesn’t make clear whether or not Meadows has cut a cooperation deal and “flipped” on Trump. By court order, Meadows was required to testify about every Trump crime that he witnessed but didn’t participate in. Any deal would only be to allow Meadows to also testify about the Trump crimes that incriminated Meadows.

Deal or no deal, we now know that Mark Meadows has testified in both of Jack Smith’s major criminal cases against Donald Trump. And remember, this didn’t happen today. The media is reporting that Meadows testified at some unknown point in the past. It’s starting to feel like Meadows is the one tipping off the media about having testified, so he can get the resulting headlines out of the way before the Trump indictments come down.

What really stands out is that it’s starting to feel as if Jack Smith is treating his two major Trump probes as if they’re actually one big probe. At the least, Smith appears to be bringing both probes to completion at the same time – making it convenient for indictment purposes.

Every right wing Republican that texted Mark Meadows for a pardon should be terrified as well. Only someone who thinks they're guilty of a serious crime would ask for a pardon.


 

Mark Meadows testified before grand jury in special counsel's Trump investigation, sources

The breaking news about Mark Meadows' testimony before the grand jury in the special counsel's Trump investigations just got worse.

ABC News is now reporting that sources say "Meadows answered questions on both Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election and Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents."

Meadows is a key figure in both of these investigations. This should absolutely terrify Trump


https://abc7news.com/mark-meadows-testifies-donald-trump-grand-jury/13351793/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6209 on: June 07, 2023, 11:02:30 AM »
Pro-Trump 'True the Vote' leadership accused of using donations for personal gain



Conservative activists Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips used the nonprofit True the Vote to enrich themselves, according to a complaint filed to the IRS.

On Monday, the nonprofit watchdog group Campaign for Accountability called for an investigation into True the Vote, which has made repeated false claims about voter fraud in elections. The complaint said True the Vote may have violated state and federal law when the charity used donations to issue loans to Engelbrecht, its founder, and lucrative contracts to Gregg Phillips, a longtime director. The organization also failed to disclose the payments to insiders in its tax returns, including excessive legal bills paid to its general counsel at the time, who filed election-related lawsuits in four states, the complaint said.

“Such disclosure lapses heighten suspicion regarding whether True the Vote and or its current or former officers and directors intended to conceal the payments from the public or IRS,” the complaint said. The self-dealing contracts and loans were first reported by Reveal.

Engelbrecht started Texas-based True the Vote in 2010 after getting involved in Tea Party activism in the Houston area. Over the years, she and Phillips have promoted probes into voter fraud in their fundraising efforts, but they have failed to deliver evidence of such activity for years. The pair catapulted to national prominence when conservative provocateur Dinesh D’Souza featured the nonprofit’s discredited work in the film “2,000 Mules,” which played in theaters across the country.

Engelbrecht and Phillips have defended their voting work, and their attorney has previously said there was nothing wrong about the loans and contracts. Engelbrecht and Phillips did not respond to requests for comment.

“The so-called Campaign for Accountability filed this IRS complaint as a form of harassment,” a True the Vote spokesperson wrote in response to questions. “The complaint is without merit and we believe it will be terminated in due course.”

The federal government allows nonprofit organizations to operate tax-free, and in return they are required to disclose substantial information about their finances to make sure donor funds are used appropriately. Charities like True the Vote are also not allowed to engage in certain political activity.

“I hope that the IRS and other applicable authorities take seriously what appears to be a pattern of bad behavior by Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, and that makes the pursuit of accountability that much more important,” said Michelle Kuppersmith, executive director of Campaign for Accountability. The organization previously filed a separate complaint in 2020 about True the Vote engaging in political activity with Georgia’s Republican Party. The IRS did not respond to that complaint.

The group’s legal woes have mounted following the D’Souza movie. A Georgia voter sued the pair and D’Souza for defamation because he said he was wrongfully accused of committing voter fraud. The case is pending. A state investigation found the voter was dropping off ballots for himself and family members, which is legal. Former Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s office asked federal authorities to investigate True the Vote’s finances after Engelbrecht and Phillips did not produce purported evidence on voter fraud to investigators in 2022.

James Bopp Jr., the former general counsel, is now suing True the Vote in federal court for breach of contract for nearly $1 million in unpaid legal bills dating back several years, according to court records obtained by ProPublica. True the Vote has countersued Bopp’s law firm, denying the unpaid invoices and accusing it of engaging in fraud and substandard lawyering, the records show.

In an interview with ProPublica, Bopp said that True the Vote’s counterclaim has no merits. “We were shocked they responded this way. They did nothing but praise our work,” he said. “This is what unscrupulous people will do when they try to avoid the repayment of debt.”

In January, ProPublica and The Dallas Morning News reported Engelbrecht and Phillips created another charity, the Freedom Hospital. It aimed to help children and elderly people affected by the war in Ukraine with medical care. Its website, which has since been taken down, said it raised halfway to $25 million for a mobile hospital. ProPublica and the News found the effort never materialized. Attorneys for Engelbrecht and Phillips said that it was a good-faith effort and that his clients only raised $268 for the project through PayPal. Lawyers said donations were returned “at Mr. Phillips’ direction.”

In its most recently available tax return, True the Vote in 2021 raised about $1.7 million but fell $289,157 into the red. The 2021 return no longer includes Phillips as a director. In 2020, the organization raised $5 million. For 2019, the organization had given a reporter and the IRS two widely different tax returns that were riddled with inconsistencies over key questions about governance and Engelbrecht’s $113,000 loan. At the time, True the Vote said it planned to file an amended return. It does not appear to have been filed with the IRS.

Despite Texas law stating directors of nonprofits can’t receive loans from their own organizations, Engelbrecht — who was a director and an employee at the time — regularly received loans from the nonprofit, ranging from about $40,000 to $113,000, according to tax filings. She also earned a salary.

Phillips first joined True the Vote as a board member in 2014. Phillips received at least $750,000 related to a research analysis contract. The Campaign for Accountability, in its complaint, raised questions about what, if any, services were actually rendered.

Bopp was paid approximately $280,000 over a seven day period related to filing and supervising attorneys on election-related lawsuits to challenge the results in key states, according to court records. Originally, there were seven lawsuits planned to be filed, but Bopp filed only four. He quickly withdrew them. Bopp previously justified the costs to file the complaints as legitimate because each state had different laws.

“Such legal fees seem excessive for a few days of work in lawsuits that never proceeded past an initial complaint and which The Bopp Law Firm voluntarily dismissed shortly after filing,” the complaint said.

In 2020, True the Vote did not report those contracts in its tax returns, which are required for contracts above $100,000. “Ms. Engelbrecht, as President of True the Vote, appears to have voluntarily and intentionally filed a false, incorrect, and incomplete Form 990,” the complaint said.

Read More Here: https://revealnews.org/article/true-the-vote-big-lie-election-fraud/



Mark Meadows testified before grand jury and could be part of Jack Smith's probe into Trump: report



Former chief of staff Mark Meadows has been largely quiet recently, New York Times reporter Mike Schmidt told MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace on Tuesday, and they wondered why that might be.

As it turns out, Schmidt explained, it's been discovered that Meadows, a "potentially key figure in inquiries related to Mr. Trump, has testified before a federal grand jury hearing evidence in the investigations being led by the special counsel’s office, according to two people briefed on the matter."

There are two investigations under Smith – one relates to the classified document scandal and the other goes to the Jan. 6 attack and the attempt to overthrow the 2020 election. Meadows has been a large part of the latter, though it isn't clear which investigation he testified in.

The Times characterized Meadows as a polarizing figure in the Trump White House, who served as nothing more than a glorified gatekeeper. Lately, Trump's aides and allies have been confused about why Meadows has kept his head down. "Some of Mr. Trump’s advisers believe he could be a significant witness in the inquiries," Schmidt said.

Trump himself has asked about Meadows, those familiar with the president's conversations told the Times.

Meadows' lawyer George Terwilliger, said, “Without commenting on whether or not Mr. Meadows has testified before the grand jury or in any other proceeding, Mr. Meadows has maintained a commitment to tell the truth where he has a legal obligation to do so.”

Read the full report at the New York Times here: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/politics/mark-meadows-testified-trump-grand-jury.html



Jack Smith grand jury to meet in Florida to hear testimony in Trump documents case

A federal grand jury is expected to meet in Florida to hear testimony about former President Donald Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the grand jury is part of the investigation conducted by special counsel Jack Smith. It's separate from a Washington, D.C. grand jury that's been hearing testimony in the documents case.

People close to the investigation said Smith was trying to tie up loose ends before a possible indictment.

NBC News confirmed that a grand jury was meeting in Florida.

"Why prosecutors are using multiple grand juries, and whether they are ready to seek an indictment in either jurisdiction is unknown," the NBC News report noted. "The Justice Department declined to comment on the investigation."

On Monday, attorneys for Trump met with officials at the Department of Justice to argue he should not be indicted.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/doj-donald-trump-lawyers-document-probe-e8c8e7c3

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6210 on: June 07, 2023, 10:48:57 PM »
When multiple major news outlets reported yesterday that Mark Meadows had testified against Donald Trump to the DOJ grand jury, it wasn’t clear if this meant that Meadows had merely given the minimum testimony required under the law, or if he’d cut an actual immunity deal and given more broad testimony against Trump. Turns out it’s reportedly the latter.

Meadows is preparing to plead guilty to multiple charges as part of a limited immunity deal he secretly cut with the DOJ, according to breaking reporting from the Independent. Meadows testified to the grand jury as part of that deal. It’s still not being reported how long ago this happened.

Nor is it being spelled out precisely what’s “limited” about Meadows’ immunity. But given that he’s pleading guilty on several charges, and that these charges are presumably crimes that he and Trump committed together, it seems pretty clear that he gave up Trump pretty severely. By the way, this same reporting says that Trump could be indicted as soon as tomorrow.

Donald Trump is getting indicted under the Espionage Act and it could happen is soon as TOMORROW. Also, Mark Meadows cut an IMMUNITY deal against Trump and will plead guilty to felonies of his own.

Trump is headed to prison! 

Prosecutors ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are prepared to ask grand jurors to vote on charges as early as Thursday

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-indictment-espionage-prosecution-charges-b2353397.html

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #6211 on: June 08, 2023, 12:02:02 AM »
The news: Trump is being indicted tomorrow.

Mike Pence: That’s it, I’m officially entering the 2024 race.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6212 on: June 08, 2023, 12:08:54 AM »
Criminal Donald said this the last time he was indicted in Manhattan and less than 10 people showed up to protest. Donnie is going down for espionage.


Trump’s warning of ‘death and destruction’ if indicted sparks security concerns

Donald Trump's attorneys met with Justice Department officials over the investigation into his mishandling of classified documents. Trump then asked, "How can the DOJ charge me," on Truth Social. Legal expert Frank Figliuzzi joins Joy Reid to discuss.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6213 on: June 08, 2023, 02:16:43 AM »
Trump continues to surge in the polls amidst an impressive group of Republican contenders.  Meanwhile Old Joe is in free fall (both figurately and literally) against loons like RFK Jr.  What a contrast.  All the more amazing since Ukraine Joe has the complete support of the leftist media and corrupt establishment. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6214 on: June 08, 2023, 09:45:59 AM »
Twenty Secret Service agents have reportedly testified against Trump to the grand jury. How many of them do you think wanted to do that? Their job is to keep presidential secrets. But it was either testify against Trump or go to prison themselves. There's no magical third option.

We’re about to hear the narrative that Donald Trump could have avoided prison if he’d just returned the documents when asked, and that he stubbornly did this to himself for no reason. And that’s true when it comes to the obstruction of justice charges. But the reason Trump is also getting charged with espionage is that his intent was much more sinister than mere stubbornness.

For instance, one of the key pieces of evidence in this case is a recording of Trump discussing an Iran-related classified document with Mark Meadows’ ghostwriters. This means Trump was willfully disseminating classified information, to people he knew weren’t authorized to hear about it, long before the DOJ got involved.

It sounds like these ghostwriters turned out to be harmless. But the reason Trump committed espionage by discussing the classified intel with them is that for all he knew, these ghostwriters could have turned around and sold that intel to Saudi Arabia. Trump knew he was exposing classified state secrets, and he didn’t care about the implications. That’s not stubbornness...it’s espionage.

We still don’t know what else Jack Smith has uncovered. We don’t know if he’s found evidence that Trump gave or sold any classified information to any foreign entities. We’ll see which way that goes when the indictment happens. But even just based on what’s already come out publicly, this was far more sinister than merely refusing to return documents or lying about their locations. Trump was willfully disseminating classified state secrets even before the Feds started demanding the return of the documents.

Donald Trump committed espionage against the United States. This wasn’t about boxes, it was about espionage. That’s the story. Let’s not allow the prevailing narrative to be any watered down variation of it.

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« Reply #6215 on: June 08, 2023, 09:58:13 AM »
DOJ ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges



The Department of Justice is readying to ask a Washington D.C. grand jury to indict Donald Trump on obstruction and Espionage Act charges, which could happen as soon as Thursday, The Independent reports.

Prosecutors are prepared to ask the grand jury hearing evidence to approve an indictment that the former president violated a federal criminal code that prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defense,” the report said.

The Independent’s Andrew Feinberg writes that “The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.”


Prosecutors ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are prepared to ask grand jurors to vote on charges as early as Thursday

The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party’s nomination in next year’s presidential election.

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”.

The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.

That section of US criminal law is written in a way that could encompass Mr Trump’s conduct even if he was authorised to possess the information as president because it states that anyone who “lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document ...relating to the national defence,” and “willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it” can be punished by as many as 10 years in prison.

It is understood that prosecutors intend to ask grand jurors to vote on the indictment on Thursday, but that vote could be delayed as much as a week until the next meeting of the grand jury to allow for a complete presentation of evidence, or to allow investigators to gather more evidence for presentation if necessary.

A separate grand jury that is meeting in Florida has also been hearing evidence in the documents investigation. That grand jury was empaneled in part to overcome legal issues posed by the fact that some of the crimes allegedly committed by Mr Trump took place in that jurisdiction, not in Washington. Under federal law, prosecutors must bring charges against federal defendants in the jurisdiction where the crimes took place.

Even if grand jurors vote to return an indictment against the ex-president this week, it is likely that those charges would remain sealed until both the Washington and Florida grand juries complete their work.

Another source familiar with the matter has said Mr Trump’s team was recently informed that he is a “target” of the Justice Department probe, which began in early 2022 after National Archives and Records Administration officials discovered more than 100 documents bearing classification markings in a set of 15 boxes of Trump administration records retrieved from Mar-a-Lago, the century-old mansion turned private beach club where Mr Trump maintains his primary residence and post-presidential office.

Over the course of the last year, grand jurors have heard testimony from numerous associates of the ex-president, including nearly every employee of Mar-a-Lago, former administration officials who worked in Mr Trump’s post-presidential office and for his political operation, and former high-ranking administration officials such as his final White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

Mr Meadows has already given evidence before the grand jury and is said to be cooperating with the investigations into his former boss. It is understood that the former North Carolina congressman testified as part of a deal for which he has already received limited immunity in exchange for his testimony.

A source who was briefed on the agreement claimed that the alleged agreement will involve the ex-chief of staff entering pleas of guilty to unspecified federal crimes but an attorney for Mr Meadows, George Terwilliger, denied that to The Independent. Mr Terwilliger said that the idea that his client would enter any guilty pleas was “complete bulls***” but did not address the matter of immunity in a brief telephone conversation with this reporter.

It is not yet known whether the testimony or the charges in question relate to the documents probe, or a separate investigation into the January 6 attack on the Capitol. Both investigations are being overseen by a Department of Justice special prosecutor, Jack Smith. According to ABC News, Mr Meadows has given evidence in both the documents matter and the January 6 investigation.

In the documents matter, prosecutors are also prepared to ask grand jurors to indict Mr Trump on charges that he obstructed justice during the year-long investigation and caused false statements to be made to investigators by persons working for him.

It is possible that such charges could stem from a declaration submitted to federal investigators roughly a year ago, when FBI agents and prosecutors visited his home to retrieve a sealed folder filled with 38 classified documents which Mr Trump’s attorneys turned over in response to a grand jury subpoena. If so, those charges could come in federal court in Florida, rather than in Washington.

According to court documents, the government subsequently developed evidence indicating that documents had been removed from a storage room where his attorneys had stated that all such documents were being stored in the days following the receipt of the grand jury subpoena.

Using that evidence, which reportedly includes surveillance footage taken by cameras placed in the interior of Mar-a-Lago, prosecutors obtained a search warrant for the property that was carried out by FBI agents on 8 August last year.

During that search, special agents discovered 103 documents bearing classification markings, including 18 marked “top secret,” 54 marked “secret,” and 31 marked as “confidential,” including a number of documents that were stored in Mr Trump’s personal office.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-indictment-section-793-espionage-act-mark-meadows-b2353684.html#Echobox=1686166165

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6215 on: June 08, 2023, 09:58:13 AM »