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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #752 on: July 25, 2020, 03:32:38 AM »
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Well, 148,000 dead in USA.

So, 150,000 by August is looking like..optimism?

And 200,000 by Election day is suddenly looking quite..possible? Especially if schools open?

What say ye, Mr. Crow?

Aside: Mr May, David Brooks speaks of the loss of "heterodox " voices. Silencing of conservative voices. Cancel culture.
Oddly, he continues to be paid quite handsomely to bloviate on the pages of...The New York Times? Please, let me be "silenced" in such a way.  :)
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #753 on: July 25, 2020, 03:46:45 AM »
Well, 148,000 dead in USA.

So, 150,000 by August is looking like..optimism?

And 200,000 by Election day is suddenly looking quite..possible? Especially if schools open?

What say ye, Mr. Crow?

Aside: Mr May, David Brooks speaks of the loss of "heterodox " voices. Silencing of conservative voices. Cancel culture.
Oddly, he continues to be paid quite handsomely to bloviate on the pages of...The New York Times? Please, let me be "silenced" in such a way.  :)

John, I enjoy reading David Brooks. He’s an entertaining writer. He should write for The Onion. He was a liberal, then a conservative, then a moderate. As I recall he supported HC in 2016 and is strongly against Trump in 2020. I’m not unlike Brooks. Liberal on some issues, conservative on others and moderate on most.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #754 on: July 25, 2020, 05:45:32 AM »

   YAWN !

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #755 on: July 25, 2020, 09:40:45 AM »
   YAWN !

That's the most interesting contribution you have made to this forum in months!

Have you still not figured out that your time on this forum has already expired?  Nobody takes you serious anymore as you have lost all credibility. You are unable to debate any issue, to answer any question and/or behave in a normal manner. Your propaganda is tiresome and doesn't persuade anybody and, although you don't seem to comprehend this yourself, you actually ran out of anything of substance to say a long time ago.

Your pretence that you are someone of significance with access to inside information was funny for a while, but we all understood early on that your only purpose in life is mowing lawns and sitting in your basement watching television 24/7 so you can parrot whatever the lying extreme right wing media are telling you. You showed your true colors when you ran as hard as you could from accepting Paul's wager about something you have been calling "a sure win" for months.

You are not a conservative. You are an armchair extremist and and a very poor wannabe provocateur who, as you have recently shown us, does not have even a bit of confidence in any of the crap you spew on this forum.

Yawn, indeed.....You have gotten extremely boring, Mr Storing.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #756 on: July 25, 2020, 12:10:24 PM »
Well, 148,000 dead in USA.

So, 150,000 by August is looking like..optimism?

And 200,000 by Election day is suddenly looking quite..possible? Especially if schools open?

What say ye, Mr. Crow?

Aside: Mr May, David Brooks speaks of the loss of "heterodox " voices. Silencing of conservative voices. Cancel culture.
Oddly, he continues to be paid quite handsomely to bloviate on the pages of...The New York Times? Please, let me be "silenced" in such a way.  :)

I will stand by 200,000 by November. My end of July estimate was a bit under but I had not anticipated the virus "liberation" in Texas and Florida etc. when I made it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #757 on: July 25, 2020, 12:26:42 PM »
Where's all your Ma and Pa Kettles, Royell? They left Donald Trump. Now that Biden has nearly all the white voters Donald Trump has, this is going to be a landslide.     


Trump’s Lead with White Voters Has Nearly Vanished

Nate Cohn: “Remarkably, Mr. Trump’s lead among white voters has all but vanished. On average, he holds just a three-point lead among white voters, 48 percent to 45 percent, across an average of high-quality telephone surveys since June 1. His lead among white voters has steadily diminished since April.”

“In the long view, the president’s losses among white voters compared with his final standing in 2016 polls are broad, spanning all major demographic categories. In more recent months, the president’s losses have been somewhat narrower and concentrated among younger voters.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/trumps-lead-with-white-voters-has-nearly-vanished/


Trump’s Suburban Horror Show

“Donald Trump says Joe Biden wants to abolish the suburbs. But polls show a different truth: The suburbs want to abolish Donald Trump,” Politico reports.

“If current numbers hold, the Republican Party will suffer its worst defeat in the suburbs in decades — with implications reaching far beyond November.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/25/trumps-suburban-nightmare-376823


Florida Moves to Lean Democrat

Cook Political Report: “Given its track record in presidential campaigns over the last 20 years, it’s hard to think of Florida as anything other than a Toss Up. Since 2000, the winner of the state has never carried it by more than 5 points. In fact, in four of the last five presidential elections, the winner squeaked in by 3 points or less.”

“But, at this point, this battleground state looks less like a 50-50 proposition and more like a state that is leaning Biden’s way.”

The consensus electoral map now shows Joe Biden at 320 electoral votes with Donald Trump at 125 and 93 as Toss Ups.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/florida-moves-to-lean-democrat/


Coronavirus Response Sinks GOP Governors

A new SurveyMonkey poll finds Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, and Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp — all Republicans — saw their ratings take a nosedive this month as coronavirus cases skyrocketed in their states.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/coronavirus-response-sinks-gop-governors/


Trump’s Most Important 2016 Donor Sits Out 2020

“Robert and Rebekah Mercer ranked among President Trump’s most influential backers in 2016. But they’ve all but abandoned the embattled president and aren’t likely to help him in the home stretch for 2020,” Business Insider reports.

Said one associate: “They’re 100, 100, 100% out.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/trumps-most-important-2016-donor-sits-out-2020/


Trump’s Convention Cancellation Costs Millions

“President Trump’s whipsaw decisions to first move the Republican National Convention’s in-person main events, then to cancel them are costing GOP donors millions of dollars,” NBC News reports.

“Of the $38 million raised by the host committee for the convention’s original location — Charlotte, North Carolina — the majority has been spent, the Republican officials said. The host committee in Jacksonville, Florida, where Trump had moved the convention, raised an additional $6 million, but GOP officials said much of that money remains.”

“Now, the president’s team is searching not only for a new stage from which he can deliver a speech accepting his party’s nomination for a second term, but also a way to appease Republicans who have nothing to show for their donations.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/trumps-convention-cancellation-costs-millions/


How the U.S. Compares with the World on the Virus

“The surge in the United States is so extreme that, once adjusted for population… 10 states are recording more new cases than any country in the world,” the New York Times reports.





Trump’s Response to Protests May Cost Him Election

New battleground polling provided to Vanity Fair suggests that the Black Lives Matter protests themselves “changed America’s opinions about race so quickly, and so profoundly, that Trump unknowingly planted himself even further on the wrong side of public opinion than previously understood.”

“Avalanche found resounding support for the protests not just among Biden supporters, but among persuadable voters and even soft Trump supporters. The hardcore Vote Trump respondents were against the protests, with 56% opposing them. But among the softer Lean Trump set, an eye-opening 59% said the protesters were ‘completely right’ or ‘somewhat right’—probably not what the president had in mind when he commandeered Lafayette Square. And 72% of Americans with Mixed Feelings about the presidential race—precious undecided voters—said the protesters were right too.”

“But just as remarkable were the shifts among those persuadables in the 10 days between June 1 and June 11, a window that opened with burning cities and Trump’s march to St. John’s Church, but concluded with mostly peaceful demonstrations nationwide. During that period Avalanche found that support for the protests grew 10 points among Mixed Feelings voters, 14 points among Lean Biden voters, and a head-spinning 25 points among Lean Trump voters.”

Said pollster Michiah Prull: “I had never in my research career seen public opinion shift on the scale in this time frame.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/24/trumps-response-to-protests-may-cost-him-election/


This poll is the cherry on top. Eat your cherry Royell. Donald Trump is losing.





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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #758 on: July 25, 2020, 01:19:29 PM »
One day after boasting of his superior memory, Trump tells detailed lie about being booed at 2015 event he didn't attend

 
Impeached President Donald Trump was musing to Dave Portnoy, founder of Barstool Sports, about how his life was better before he announced his presidential candidacy.

Just like he did in March, Trump then went on a riff about an an incident he claims (falsely) took place at a New York City charity gala after he announced he was becoming a politician in 2015.

Trump keeps saying he'd never been booed during his great easy life before he became a candidate in 2015. Not even close to true.

So Trump says he was booed for the first time in his life at a charity gala after he launched his candidacy in 2015...

...though he'd been booed multiple times in previous years and hasn't attended that gala since 2011.




“One thing that happened: I was going into a thing called the Robin Hood Foundation. I'll never forget it," Trump said in the interview, which Portnoy released on Friday.

"It was just about the night I announced or whatever. My wife looked at me, she said, 'You know, I hear people booing.' And she was with me for a long time, we've been together a long time, she said, 'Some people are booing.' I said, 'Yeah, but some people are also clapping. Wildly.' I said, 'No.' She said, 'You know what, I've been with you a long time. I've never heard anyone boo you.' This was right after I started being the politician. And it meant something -- because I said, you know, it's the first time in my life I was ever booed."

Facts First: This story could not possibly be true: Trump has not attended the Robin Hood Foundation gala since 2011. Also, the 2015 gala was held in May, a month before Trump announced his candidacy -- so, even if he had gone, he could not possibly have been booed there for his immigration positions as a new candidate, as he claimed in March. Also, Trump had been booed in public on multiple occasions before 2015.

MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle, who is part of the anti-poverty foundation's Leadership Council of prominent donors, has publicly said that Trump did not attend the gala in 2015, a star-studded affair that raised $101 million. Ruhle tweeted in March that Trump's story about being booed was "entirely fabricated."

Another person affiliated with the foundation, who spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Trump had not attended the gala since 2011.

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Trump 'sought to frame and create a culture war’ by deploying DHS agents to Portland: report

The leader of the free world is intentionally causing chaos in Portland to help his struggling 2020 re-election campaign, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The story, titled, “Operation Diligent Valor: Trump showcased federal power in Portland, making a culture war campaign pitch” was written by reporters Marissa J. Lang, Josh Dawsey, Devlin Barrett and Nick Miroff.

“As statues of Confederate generals, enslavers and other icons tumbled from their pedestals amid protests last month, President Trump issued an executive order meant to break the cascade,” the newspaper reported. “It enlisted the Department of Homeland Security, created in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks to protect the country against external threats, to defend U.S. monuments and federal property against ‘anarchists and left-wing extremists’ who he said are advancing ‘a fringe ideology.'”

“The order signaled Trump’s eagerness to mobilize federal power against the societal upheaval that has coursed through America since George Floyd’s death,” the newspaper explained. “But Trump’s June 26 declaration came too late. The momentum of the protests was fading in many U.S. cities, and confrontations between federal authorities and civilians were becoming less frequent. Then Trump found Portland, according to administration and campaign officials.”

“Sinking in the polls over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, Trump seized a chance to appear as a field general in a wider American cultural conflict over racial justice, police misconduct and the reexamination of American history and monuments,” the newspaper explained. “In Portland, he found a theater for his fight.”

Trump has been closely monitoring the DHS response to protests.

“Trump has taken a keen interest in tactical operations against the protesters in recent weeks, according to White House and administration officials at the center of the response, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. When the fog of tear gas is thickest here in the wee hours of the morning, the president is sometimes up early on the other side of the country, calling Wolf for real-time updates from the front,” the newspaper explained.

But it may all be backfiring on Trump.

“The scenes of militarized federal forces on the city’s streets have stunned many Americans and unnerved former Homeland Security officials, but they have not quieted the protests. In many ways, the agents and the barricades they have erected have re-energized the demonstrators and have converted the courthouse into a proxy for the Trump administration itself,” the newspaper explained.

Read the full report:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/portland-protests-operation-diligent-valor/2020/07/24/95f21ede-cce9-11ea-89ce-ac7d5e4a5a38_story.html



Trump hates looking like a loser —right now he looks like one of the biggest losers in U.S. history: op-ed




Writing in the Washington Post this Friday, columnist Henry Olsen says that although President Trump recently canceled his scheduled convention acceptance speech in Jacksonville, Florida, due to the states continued coronavirus spread, the move nevertheless reflects a Trump pattern of “belatedly recognizing that fighting the coronavirus is Americans’ top priority.”

“Trump has, unfortunately, long resisted this notion,” Olsen writes. “Throughout March and April, he veered between prioritizing fighting the virus and displaying a barely concealed desire to see this fight quickly put behind him. As the novel coronavirus’s spread slowed, he shifted to show support for a quick reopening to turbocharge the economy. He never adopted the views of some extremists such as Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R), who said he was willing to risk older people’s lives to keep the economy open. But that’s what millions of older people thought Trump believed as he played down their real fears and emphasized getting back to business.”

Signifying Trump’s reluctant reversal are his recent press briefing and appearances wearing a mask, in an attempt to convey to the public that he does indeed take the virus seriously. He’s even slightly walked back his insistence that all schools reopen in the fall.

“All of this surely has political motives as well as altruistic ones,” writes Olsen. “Trump’s job approval ratings had been dropping since April, and he now trails former vice president Joe Biden in all national polls and virtually every swing-state poll. If these ratings don’t improve, Trump is looking at the biggest popular vote loss by an incumbent president since Herbert Hoover.”

Ultimately, Olsen writes, the new tone will “tax Trump’s abilities as nothing in his life has before.”

“…Trump hates looking like a loser, and right now, he’s looking like one of the biggest losers in U.S. history,” he concludes.

Read the full op-ed over at The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/24/good-trump-canceling-his-convention-now-its-time-hard-part/?hpid=hp_save-opinions-float-right-4-0_opinion-card-a-right%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



Unimaginative Trump returns to spewing racist paranoia as his reelection hopes appear to crumble before him




In 2018, Donald Trump’s very-stable-genius plan to win the midterm elections for Republicans was to hype the hell out of a so-called caravan of Central American refugees who were crossing Mexico in hopes of seeking asylum in the United States. About 7,000 people, mostly consisting of families with children, were indeed making the 2,500-mile trek to escape poverty and gang violence, but Trump and his Republican sycophants tried to convince American voters that they were coming to the U.S. to kill white people and burn down the suburbs. Through his preferred media of Twitter and Fox News, Trump endlessly hyped the “invasion” of these migrants, and suggesting they might be terrorists, and were coming to create gang warfare, not escape it.This article was originally published at SalonThe nonstop fear-mongering about the caravan did work its magic on the ever-gullible mainstream news media. A Media Matters study published two weeks before the election showed a precipitous rise in cable news coverage of what would have otherwise been a minor story, as similar caravans had been in previous years.

But if Trump and his minions succeeded in hijacking the news cycle with their racist hysterics, they failed in their goal of winning the 2018 midterm elections. While Republicans certainly leveraged their unfair electoral advantages to maintain a wildly disproportionate share of power, Democrats racked up historic wins, retaking the House of Representatives with a 40-seat pickup, as well as winning seven governorships and hundreds of state legislature seats.

While the news media let Trump’s racist hype machine around the caravan drive their coverage, the actual voters were worried about an issue that had fallen out of the headlines 15 months prior: Health care, by far the biggest concern cited by voters in 2018 exit polls.

Trump and the Republicans had tried to repeal the Affordable Health Care in the summer of 2017, failing only at the last minute when Sen. John McCain voted against the effort. But while McCain may have blunted the impact slightly, Democrats were still able to run a bunch of ads and hold numerous events highlighting the fact that Trump wanted to take away people’s health insurance. The strategy worked not only to win that election, but to keep the health care issue central to voters’ concerns, no matter how much Trump was hyping racist fears.

Now it’s time for another, even more important election and Trump, never one to believe that he was wrong just because he failed, is pulling out the same playbook. He’s replaced “caravan” with phrases like “professional anarchists, violent mobs or arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, antifa,” all terms he uses to describe the largely peaceful protesters who have been  demonstrating against police brutality and racism since May.

It’s essentially the same trick: Taking a group of people who are both peaceful and in fact genuinely opposed to violence  — refugees who are fleeing violence, protesters who object to police brutality — and portraying them as a threat to life and limb (and most importantly, to property) of “real” Americans, defined as people who are sure Jesus was white.

Naturally, Fox News and other Republican camp followers are echoing the message in maximally hyperbolic terms, with Fox prime-time host Laura Ingraham declaring that if Joe Biden defeats Trump in November, “You will become the target for criminals, for radicals, and the cancel culture” who will destroy “our families, our kids, our churches, our schools, our whole way of life.”

To bolster this message, Trump is sending federal police, outfitted to look like invading troops, into American cities to arrest people without cause, tear-gas groups of protesters and beat people, all to generate images of violence and chaos he can use to scare what he imagines to be a “silent majority”  of scared white people cowering in their suburban homes. With his usual lack of subtlety, Trump even tweeted Thursday that the “Suburban Housewives of America” should believe that “Biden will destroy your neighborhood.” (He appears unaware that most women with children under 18 at home work outside the home.)

But there is no reason to believe this strategy will work for him. As I wrote on Thursday, all the polling so far suggests that voters accurately perceive that Trump’s crackdowns are the source of violence, not the protesters themselves. As Jamelle Bouie of the New York Times pointed out on Friday, there is “a silent majority in this country,” but it opposes Trump’s racism and fear-mongering.

Perhaps more importantly, however, that silent majority cares a lot about protecting access to health care. They cared in 2018, when those concerns secured massive wins for Democrats in the midterms. They cared in 2019, when Democrat Andy Beshear won the gubernatorial race in Kentucky — a state Trump won by 30 percentage points — in large part because the previous Republican governor, Matt Bevin, kept finding ways to take away people’s Medicaid.

While there hasn’t been much polling in recent months to gauge the highest-priority issues, it’s a safe bet that these health care-sensitive voters aren’t particularly pleased with the way that Trump and the Republicans have let the coronavirus wash over our country, infecting more than 4 million Americans and killing 144,000 as of Friday morning — with both infection rates and death rates sharply on the rise once again.

Moreover, largely because Trump and the Senate Republicans have mishandled this crisis so badly, more than 5 million Americans have lost their health insurance since the pandemic hit. Many of these people are, or should have been, eligible for Medicaid coverage, but the refusal to expand Medicaid in 14 states, combined with massive Trump-era cuts to education and outreach programs have kept many Americans off the rolls.

Trump’s surprise victory in 2016 left many progressives wondering if he was some kind of political genius, even as he seems to think it’s a brag-worthy event to pass a cognitive test used to determine if someone has debilitating dementia. But that election was a fluke in many ways, a true black swan event. Thanks to his pathological narcissism, Trump cannot imagine what it would like to worry about losing health care access, and also can’t believe that other people might not be as racist as he is. So he’s running a campaign strategy, if you can even call it that, reflecting the “concerns” of a pampered racist poisoned by Fox News, instead of the things American voters are actually worried about. So long as Democrats stay out of the Trumpian media morass and continue to advertise their superior policies on real issues people, they have nothing to fear from Trump’s “anarchists and looters” strategy.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/unimaginative-trump-returns-to-spewing-racist-paranoia-as-his-reelection-hopes-appear-to-crumble-before-him/



AP reporter reveals why scaled-down GOP convention is so ‘devastating’ to Trump’s campaign




Donald Trump has agreed to scale back the Republican National Convention in recognition of the coronavirus threat, and MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said that poses a major threat to his re-election campaign.

The “Morning Joe” host said the president’s poll numbers remained underwater just six weeks before early voting begins, and Associated Press reporter Jonathan Lemire revealed the Trump campaign was increasingly alarmed by the situation.

“There is widespread alarm,” Lemire said. “It’s not that early anymore, because of early voting beginning in a few weeks. We are now in the middle of the summer. The efforts to expand the map are all but gone. The New Mexicos, Minnesotas — it’s not going to happen to expand the states, so they’re facing deficits they have to win. Michigan has been on the verge of being gone for a while, Pennsylvania, we were surprised the polls didn’t have Joe Biden up more, particularly considering the strength around Scranton and that area — he’s from Scranton, it’s been discussed.”

Polls show Biden ahead in Florida, as well, and Lemire said the loss of a big public event in Jacksonville deals a major blow to the president’s re-election.

“There’s no path without Florida,” Lemire said. “He’s not re-elected if he doesn’t win Florida. That’s why partially canceling the convention was so devastating to the president. Yes, he had to bow to pressure. In many ways, it was inevitable. There’s surges of cases in the state, and also a real reluctance of donors and Republican senators to go. A number of Republican senators had said they wouldn’t attend, they were having trouble raising money, getting guests committing to stay for a few days. The last thing the president wanted was to appear in a minor league ballpark and only have a handful of people there. they’re not going to be any cardboard cutouts like we saw last night in the baseball games.”

“The campaign is running out of events to change the momentum,” he said. “There’s no longer a convention, it’ll be a speech some virtual events. He can’t have a campaign rally, no discussions of having rallies. They are underwater. We have seen an effort in the briefing room this week to try to stick to his talking points. It’s not a new tone — we’ve seen the tweets — but right now they are simply in trouble and they know they’re running out of time.”




'Beyond a blowout': Morning Joe panel stunned by new polls showing Trump re-election hopes collapsing




Reacting to new polling that came out late Thursday that shows Donald Trump trailing presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden by 13 points, the panel on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” was stunned at the continuing collapse of the president’s re-election prospects.

With a graphic illustrating the Quinnipiac poll that shows Biden beating Trump 51 percent to 38 percent, co-host Joe Scarborough said that numbers are looking insurmountable for the president to overcome.

“I’m hesitant to suggest this is where the real numbers are right now,” the host said before adding, “Obviously we’re at the end of July. When I saw the Quinnipiac plus 13 out of Florida, I thought that’s probably an outlier, maybe we’re close to eight, nine, based on the polls.”

“Michigan plus nine, Minnesota, a state that Trump’s campaign believed for three years they were going to bring along into their column, along with New Mexico, those are long gone,” he continued. “They’re not going to be able to campaign in Minnesota or New Mexico because they now have to worry about Texas. We’ve probably done five, six polls over the past month basically show Texas deadlocked within the margin of error except the Dallas News poll this week that showed Biden up by five — bad across the board right now.”

“Yes, it’s early, blah, blah, blah, it’s early,” Scarborough suggested. “It’s important to remember, as Donald Trump’s people are starting to tell him, early voting starts soon. We’re about six weeks away from people starting to vote early and some of these attitudes about the president seem increasingly locked in.”

Asked to comment, Washington Post editor Eugene Robinson stated the polling is devastating to the president.

“I think he’s totally upside down on the coronavirus issue,” Robinson stated. “And, look, if these numbers in Florida are anything like what the result ends up to be, this is beyond a blowout. This is — you can’t possibly lose Florida by those kinds of margins and expect anything, you know, expect to come close in the general election.”

And for that poll to come out and then all those Fox News polls, the president’s favorite poll that show him well behind in those midwestern battleground states and Pennsylvania — these are devastating blows to a president.”

“We’re getting to the point where traditionally, you know, pundits say people are starting to pay attention,” he continued. “First of all, people have been paying attention to this election all along. There’s nobody in this country that doesn’t have an opinion about Donald Trump and who doesn’t have an opinion about this election.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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