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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #976 on: July 28, 2020, 04:16:34 AM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #977 on: July 28, 2020, 04:18:20 AM »

President Trump is down in the polls. The Republican National Convention is mostly canceled. And now, some Republicans are contemplating the unthinkable: Would they be better off losing in November and rebuilding for 2024?

“The thought is starting to cross people’s minds,” said a Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “One way or the other, there will be life after Trump.”

This remains a small minority position among Republicans. Trump’s popularity with rank-and-file party members endures. Even a recent Fox News poll that contained mostly bad news for Trump showed 73% of his supporters were happy with their choices, compared to 62% of presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s. But Trump has never been particularly strong with the GOP’s governing and consultant class, dating back to 2016, and his relationship with them has waxed and waned with his political fortunes.

The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest. Republicans would likely recover in the midterm elections in 2022, possibly regaining a chamber or two of Congress. This could put the party in a strong position to turn the page on Trump in 2024.

This is roughly how it played out for the GOP in the midterm elections of 1994, 2010, and 2014 in response to the Democratic presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But they failed to defeat Clinton and Obama for reelection, so both Democrats served eight years despite their party's down-ballot losses.

Obama secured Obamacare and put two liberals on the Supreme Court, though the Senate GOP blocked a third. Clinton won a tax increase Republicans later partially repealed, a crime bill with a since-expired assault weapons ban, and also added two liberals to the Supreme Court. Even so, his welfare reform, a capital gains tax cut, and the balanced budget were more to Republicans’ liking. The Clinton healthcare bill was defeated before Republicans won their first House majority in 40 years. If Biden wins, the question would be whether something like Medicare for All or two additional liberal justices would happen before the next GOP electoral triumph.


“The argument is basically whether the country could withstand the Left's agenda for two years, especially if Schumer gets rid of the filibuster, if Biden wins, and the Senate goes down,” said a second Republican strategist. “Versus, can we wait another four years for the party to start to recover from Trump.”

One fear Republicans had of Trump’s 2016 candidacy was that he would reduce the party’s share of the Hispanic vote to something approximating its frequently single-digit percentage of the black vote. While Trump receives poor marks in most polls for his handling of race relations, that hasn’t happened. Trump slightly improved on Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance with minority voters, and Republican candidates continued to win between a quarter and a third of Latinos, even in the otherwise disappointing 2018 midterm elections

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #978 on: July 28, 2020, 05:15:36 AM »
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The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest. ......
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One fear Republicans had of Trump’s 2016 candidacy was that he would reduce the party’s share of the Hispanic vote to something approximating its frequently single-digit percentage of the black vote. While Trump receives poor marks in most polls for his handling of race relations, that hasn’t happened. Trump slightly improved on Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance with minority voters, and Republican candidates continued to win between a quarter and a third of Latinos, even in the otherwise disappointing 2018 midterm elections

Paul, ironically, you are quoting a political actor, a right wing extremist propagandist
much more influential and helpful to Trump party than Royell could ever dream of being.:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/a-few-gop-dissidents-ready-to-let-biden-win-and-look-ahead-to-2024

The clue for me was this line, in Antle III's piece you quoted....

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...The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest...

"Unpopular" to who, Paul, in a country in which just three men own more than at least 165 million Americans combined, own.... and it is only getting worse! This is a cesspool and the author of the piece you've quoted is akin to a used car salesman, advising readers of how reasonable much of Trump's support actually is, when in fact, they are the cancer, not the cure, the power hungry, ethics free facilitators and apologists for the Trump party senators who voted to keep Trump in office, and instead of removing him, pronounced an otherwise avoidable death sentence on several hundred thousand innocent Americans and on the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution they all swore a solemn oath to protect and defend, but instead abandoned the oath to protect and defend Trump!

Antle III has since moved on to the equally right wing extremist propaganda outlet, Washington Examiner, where I found the piece you've quoted....

Tucker Carlson founded daily caller and hired Texas racist Chuck Ross, who has become Trump_Hannity's top three "mouth piece".:

emptywheel is Marcy Wheeler -

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https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/07/27/how-chuck-ross-helped-make-roger-stone-a-felon/
HOW CHUCK ROSS HELPED MAKE ROGER STONE A FELON
July 27, 2020 - by emptywheel
Last night, Chuck Ross all but admitted he doesn’t know what he’s talking about with respect to to the Roger Stone case.

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Kevin McCarthy let it slip that the endless Benghazi hearings Hillary Clinton fully responded to cost her ten points in polling, Trump's charity is closed and he and his children sanctioned in the State of NY, and yet a third investigation of Hillary's emails conducted by the Trump State Dept. found nothing actionable!

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https://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/clintons-cant-fall-back-on-vast-right-wing-conspiracy/
OPINION
Clintons Can’t Fall Back On ‘Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy’
W. JAMES ANTLE III
MANAGING EDITOR
April 23, 2015


.....But the full-time Clinton apologists are going to start sounding like Baghdad Bob denying the advancement of American forces in Iraq if they insist this is all old news.

The secrecy surrounding Hillary Clinton’s emails combined with shady foundation money is a legitimate story. The desire to report it may be vast, but it is neither right-wing nor a conspiracy.

W. James Antle III is managing editor of The Daily Caller and author of the book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped? Follow him on Twitter.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #979 on: July 28, 2020, 05:21:20 AM »
Donald Trump is whining again on Twitter tonight because everybody hates him. Does this sound like a guy who is "winning"? If he thinks this is bad, wait until November 3rd when he is defeated in a massive landslide. After his temper tantrum #TrumpleThinSkin, #ThePresidentIsACrybaby, #TrumpGriftsYouDie are top trending right now. Americans are counting down the days to vote this scumbag out of office.     

@realDonaldTrump: So disgusting to watch Twitter’s so-called “Trending”, where sooo many trends are about me, and never a good one. They look for anything they can find, make it as bad as possible, and blow it up, trying to make it trend. Really ridiculous, illegal, and, of course, very unfair!




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As our nation suffers and people are sick and dying, Trump is using the office to grift the American public for his own financial benefit.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #980 on: July 28, 2020, 05:34:55 AM »
Lying Trump

Trump is the promise everything, deliver nothing President. He also thinks it's "really ridiculous, illegal, and, of course, very unfair!" that we can make #LyingTrump trend #1

#EndTheNightmare


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #981 on: July 28, 2020, 06:11:16 AM »
President Trump is down in the polls. The Republican National Convention is mostly canceled. And now, some Republicans are contemplating the unthinkable: Would they be better off losing in November and rebuilding for 2024?

“The thought is starting to cross people’s minds,” said a Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “One way or the other, there will be life after Trump.”

This remains a small minority position among Republicans. Trump’s popularity with rank-and-file party members endures. Even a recent Fox News poll that contained mostly bad news for Trump showed 73% of his supporters were happy with their choices, compared to 62% of presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s. But Trump has never been particularly strong with the GOP’s governing and consultant class, dating back to 2016, and his relationship with them has waxed and waned with his political fortunes.

The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest. Republicans would likely recover in the midterm elections in 2022, possibly regaining a chamber or two of Congress. This could put the party in a strong position to turn the page on Trump in 2024.

This is roughly how it played out for the GOP in the midterm elections of 1994, 2010, and 2014 in response to the Democratic presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But they failed to defeat Clinton and Obama for reelection, so both Democrats served eight years despite their party's down-ballot losses.

Obama secured Obamacare and put two liberals on the Supreme Court, though the Senate GOP blocked a third. Clinton won a tax increase Republicans later partially repealed, a crime bill with a since-expired assault weapons ban, and also added two liberals to the Supreme Court. Even so, his welfare reform, a capital gains tax cut, and the balanced budget were more to Republicans’ liking. The Clinton healthcare bill was defeated before Republicans won their first House majority in 40 years. If Biden wins, the question would be whether something like Medicare for All or two additional liberal justices would happen before the next GOP electoral triumph.


“The argument is basically whether the country could withstand the Left's agenda for two years, especially if Schumer gets rid of the filibuster, if Biden wins, and the Senate goes down,” said a second Republican strategist. “Versus, can we wait another four years for the party to start to recover from Trump.”

One fear Republicans had of Trump’s 2016 candidacy was that he would reduce the party’s share of the Hispanic vote to something approximating its frequently single-digit percentage of the black vote. While Trump receives poor marks in most polls for his handling of race relations, that hasn’t happened. Trump slightly improved on Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance with minority voters, and Republican candidates continued to win between a quarter and a third of Latinos, even in the otherwise disappointing 2018 midterm elections

Donald Trump and his right wing media are hatemongers and fearmongers. They have no issues and can only use scare tactics. They are trying to paint this dire picture of what a Biden Presidency would be, but we are in the most dire and disastrous state currently. Over 150,000 Americans are dead, 4.4 million infected, 51 million unemployed, people can't pay their bills, businesses are closing, manufacturing and economy is in a recession, civil unrest and  Trump's secret police are beating and gassing American citizens in our streets. 80% of the country don't like how it's going. This is hell on Earth currently.         

We already had 8 great years under Obama/Biden with the greatest economy on record and record job creation. Biden helped keep Americans safe and protected us from Ebola and won't cozy up to dictators and will take on Putin. Those great days will return again. People don't recognize this fascist America with a wannabe authoritarian dictator where death and disease overwhelms the population  with a failure that does nothing but let people get sick and die.

Everything Donald Trump doesn't like he says is automatically "illegal", or "fake" which is the clearest sign of his dictatorial, fascist tendencies which he desires to be . By declaring that it’s illegal for anyone to make fun of him on Twitter, Donald Trump is effectively declaring that our First Amendment no longer exists. That's why this fascist authoritarian wannabe dictator will be defeated in a massive landslide.

Twitter has algorithms that rank trends based on how frequently something is tweeted. This is a reflection of how much people hate Donald Trump.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #982 on: July 28, 2020, 09:44:48 AM »
Yeah, the Fake New PARROTS around here have No Idea this stuff is going down due to their Fake News Sources imposing a BLACKOUT on Real News such as this. PHYSICAL Voter Intimidation is being imposed on Trump Supporters and the Fake News endlessly goes on-and-on about Repub's attempting to suppress the vote via polling laws. This same Fake News BLACKOUT is gonna occur when the Durham/Barr CRIMINAL Investigation hammer comes down. The only point at which Fake News will be Forced to cover Durham/Barr will be when bodies Currently on their Fake News Payroll start getting thrown into the Slammer.

What about the Storing Parrot that peddles fake news? Another one of your bogus claims bites the dust again. We already knew this one was fake but it's confirmed once again. This is why nobody takes you seriously and you only provide comedy value.


Hydroxychloroquine flunks Phase III trial in mild-to-moderate Covid-19

The study adds to the growing body of evidence that the drug, promoted early in the pandemic by President Trump, is ineffective, despite its getting a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month thanks to a retrospective analysis.


Results of new clinical trial published late last week have found that hydroxychloroquine – the malaria and autoimmune disease drug that President Donald Trump promoted as a potential “game changer” early in the Covid-19 pandemic – not only failed to improve outcomes in those with mild-to-moderate disease, but also produced a higher rate of cardiac and liver side effects.

Results of the randomized, controlled, open-label Phase III trial, which took place at more than two dozen sites in Brazil, were published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday. The study randomized 667 patients to receive hydroxychloroquine or the drug plus the antibiotic azithromycin on top of standard of care or standard of care alone. When patients were measured on the seven-point ordinal scale of improvement in disease, those in the two hydroxychloroquine groups showed no improvement compared with patients who received standard of care alone. Moreover, those receiving hydroxychloroquine more frequently experienced Qt prolongation and elevation of liver enzymes.

"Among patients hospitalized with mild-to-moderate Covid-19, the use of hydroxychloroquine, alone or with azithromycin, did not improve clinical status in 15 days as compared with standard care,” the authors wrote.

The results add to the growing body of evidence not supporting treatment of Covid-19 with hydroxychloroquine, an analogue of chloroquine, which has also been explored without success in Covid-19. Last month, the Food and Drug Administration revoked an emergency use authorization that it had granted to the drug in late March, a move that had been criticized as motivated more by politics than by science.

The drug nevertheless saw a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month when researchers at the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit published a retrospective analysis of 2,541 hospitalized Covid-19 patients in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases showing that 13% of those treated with the drug died, compared with 26.4% of those who did not receive it. However, while several right-wing media figures celebrated the data, a review in the same journal pointed to numerous confounding factors that called the purported benefit into question.

And two weeks ago, a post-publication peer review in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents strongly criticized the original paper that spurred interest in the drug, published earlier this year, pointing to numerous methodological flaws rendering it “nearly if not completely uninformative” and denouncing it as “fully irresponsible.”

https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #983 on: July 28, 2020, 12:35:12 PM »
How ironic that someone who commented slavery was a "necessary evil" should be called Cotton.

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