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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2408 on: November 13, 2020, 01:55:28 PM »
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You don’t read my posts or can’t you understand them. I told you some time back the actual mortality rate for Covid looked like it will turn out to be about 0.7%. I also posted about Sweden before. Most of the Covid outcomes will be a mixture of demographics, political leadership and social behaviour modification. Hopefully your country can eventually learn how to combat the threat. It seems you might at least get some effective leadership.

Did you have 2000 deaths today? How’s the hospitalisation rate going?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2409 on: November 13, 2020, 04:10:44 PM »
Joe Biden continues to run up the score against defeated sore loser Donald Trump who still refuses to concede so he can scam his gullible supporters out of more money for his campaign debts and the legal funds he is going to need after he's indicted.

2,000 Americans died from COVID-19 yesterday. Nearly 200,000 new cases. Many are in ruby red States and districts and Donald Trump is letting his cult members die. By refusing to concede and begin the peaceful transition of power, it's putting our national security at risk and allowing COVID-19 to spread beyond control. We have a self loathing defeated lunatic watching cable news all day instead of doing anything for COVID-19. I'm glad Donald Trump humiliated and miserable but it's a disgrace that he's allowing a virus to ravage America and destroying our democracy out of revenge.

Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2410 on: November 13, 2020, 08:57:39 PM »
Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest.

What's it like to live in an alternate "reality" where you can make up your own "facts"?

Not only has Trump lost every court case that has already been decided (that should tell you something, but it probably won't), but so far the lawyers have not been able to produce any evidence of fraud in any of those cases.

I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count.

That's a legal matter and has nothing to do with fraud. The opinion of one judge is of little value in the bigger scheme of things. The legal problem is not with the validity of the ballots. It's about when they were received. Given that the people possibly may have been misinformed about a deadline can not automatically lead to the invalidation of their votes, so don't get your hopes up that those votes will be thrown out.

And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

It's only a "big" story to Trump supporters because they hope and pray that the automatically triggered manual recount will end in a positive result for Trump. This also has nothing to do with fraud and/or Biden "stealing" the election.

In the meantime Biden has been declared the winner in Georgia, bringing his total in the electoral college to 306.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Did your biased and very selective memory forget what the Republicans were saying 4 years ago?




Btw, as far as covid is concerned, let's compare the Scandinavian countries as per today;

Norway:     26503 infections and 291 deaths
Finland:     18542 infections and 365 deaths
Denmark:  58963 infections and 755 deaths

Sweden: 171365 infections and 6122 deaths

Yeah, Sweden is doing really well.... pffffffffff

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2411 on: November 13, 2020, 11:30:32 PM »
Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

Forget the rates......look at absolutes.....ffs. Look at hospitalisation rates if you want but stop quoting the simple notion of drop in death rate. Early on the number of cases were underestimated severely because of testing inadequacy.

As for the election, who would have thought those Democrats would be so stupid to get Biden the votes and lose seats in the lower house and not grab the Senate. What it shows is the Trump was voted against more than the party. Do you have a theory for spit ticket voting?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2412 on: November 14, 2020, 12:52:54 AM »
US election 2020: Biden takes Georgia to solidify victory
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54939212

Joe Biden becomes first Democrat in 28 years to win Georgia
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/joe-biden-wins-georgia/index.html

Joe Biden has officially won Georgia and has a final total of 306 Electoral Votes which is a landslide victory according to Donald Trump and his GOP cult. Counting down the days until this fraud leaves office in disgrace.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2413 on: November 14, 2020, 01:16:43 AM »
I'm 99% certain that liberal news outlets are not going to mention this, so I will: The COVID-19 case death rate in the U.S. continues to drop. Two weeks ago, it was at 2.6%. Now, as of this morning, it is down to 2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%.

At one point during the lockdowns, the case death rate was at 5.67%. Gee, why is it that when states began to reopen and allowed people resume normal lives, the death rate almost immediately began to decrease? Maybe because forcing people to be cooped up at home for weeks is not the best way to deal with the virus?

And, Sweden's COVID-19 success story continues: While the U.S. has averaged about 800 deaths per day since August, Sweden has averaged about 4 deaths per day since August. If we adjust Sweden's numbers to our population size, that would equal about 130 deaths per day in Sweden, 82% lower than our average deaths per day.

But if Biden does take office, you can bet that the Democrats will continue to ignore fact and logic and will seek to impose their panic posture on the rest of us.

More blatant lies and disinformation. We currently have the highest death and infection rate which is at its worst point since the pandemic started. Moderators should remove your posts because it's dangerous and false. Why do you continue to post COVID-19 disinformation? What's your agenda? What's your goal?

New Zealand beat the virus because of strict lockdowns. That's the only way to stop the spread. 

New Zealand Stamps Out Coronavirus For A Second Time: Strict Lockdowns Helped Eliminate Transmission of The Virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/world/australia/new-zealand-coronavirus.html

US officials warn of tens of thousands more Covid deaths in coming weeks
CDC warning comes amid threat of PPE and bed shortages
New coronavirus cases increase with 150,000 on Thursday

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/13/us-coronavirus-covid-deaths-cdc-warning

COVID-19 Deaths in the U.S. Have Taken a Turn for the Worse
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-11-10/covid-deaths-in-the-us-are-poised-to-surge-model-shows

CDC projects up to 282,000 Covid-19 deaths by December, a new forecast shows
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

U.S. reports record 153,400 new Covid cases
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/us-reports-record-153400-new-covid-cases-as-dr-fauci-urges-americans-to-be-careful-it-is-not-futile.html

Coronavirus U.S. Numbers

Cases Yesterday: 162,226
Deaths Yesterday: 1,186

Cases Today (so far): 177, 249
Deaths Today (so far): 1,364

So, the day isn't even over yet and we exceed yesterday's case and death total by the thousands. Donald Trump a d the GOP are disgrace infecting and killing thousands of people. Michael T Griffith is posting blatant bogus disinformation on COVID-19.       

 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2414 on: November 14, 2020, 01:42:59 AM »
Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.


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Biden won Georgia today, it's over. Donald Trump lost and was humiliated. The states that didn't impose lockdowns are running out of hospital beds and have a major crisis on their hands. No surprise they are all red states that are a drag on the US economy.     

You are a disinformation artist parroting the same propaganda script that's all over Twitter. The election is over. Donald Trump lost in a landslide. There is no "voter fraud" anywhere. This is all a scam by Donald Trump. His own lawyers are abandoning him and can't they point to one single count of voter fraud. The drivel is coming from you, right wing hacks, and the cultist sheep on the right. Just more bogus conspiracy theories intended to destroy our democracy and election process. That's why America overwhelmingly defeated right wingers this election. They are sick of them.         

Election Officials Directly Contradict Trump on Voting System Fraud

A group of federal, state and local officials working with a Department of Homeland Security agency declared flatly that the election was the most secure in the nation’s history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/us/politics/election-officials-contradict-trump.html

Trump attorney openly admits to judge under penalty of perjury that there’s no election fraud
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-attorney-openly-admits-to-judge-under-penalty-of-perjury-that-theres-no-election-fraud/

Trump ‘martyring himself’ with bogus election fraud claims
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-martyring-himself-with-bogus-election-fraud-claims-and-its-working/

Trump campaign abandoned by law firm defending its Pennsylvania election lawsuit
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-campaign-abandoned-by-law-firm-defending-its-pennsylvania-election-lawsuit/

The election is over’: Lawyer who won Bush v Gore case says Trump lost
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/the-election-is-over-lawyer-who-won-bush-v-gore-case-says-trump-lost/

Trump’s plan is to ‘delay certification of the election results’ — then announce he’s running in 2024
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trumps-plan-is-to-delay-certification-of-the-election-results-then-announce-hes-running-in-2024-nyt/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2415 on: November 14, 2020, 01:51:05 AM »
Defeated election loser Donald Trump came out of hiding today and looked more weaker than ever looking sickly and frail with white hair. Guess he was too depressed to color his fake hair canary yellow for the occasion but he did manage to spray paint his fat face kool aid orange. He was out of breath again with another monotone boring press conference. He did let it slip that he is a loser and lost the election. We won't be watching very many of these anymore.  Donald Trump tried to take credit for a vaccine he had nothing to do with and accused Pfizer of conspiring against him. Donald Trump is a loser and a fraud and will spend the rest of his miserable time fighting off legal battles and trying to stay out of prison from all his criminal antics. Good riddance.  Thumb1:   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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