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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2488 on: November 17, 2020, 02:34:36 AM »
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Moderna was part of Warp Speed. This was driven by Trump, a scheme where he spent large amounts of other people’s money. That’s something he's good at but doesn’t always achieve a positive outcome. Pfizer vaccine was not developed under Warp Speed but doses were purchased using other peoples money. A bit different but same principle. Donald took credit for development of both, again another of his character flaws, loose with the truth.

I believe the Dow spiked after Biden was declared victor. Reality is that once the vaccine rolls out and the virus fades the collective memory will be that Covid decimated America during Trumps reign and Biden was President when it was cured.

Meanwhile Richard, the people have spoken. America is officially socialist from what the Trump was claiming during rallies. How many Trumpsters are going to migrate to southern countries soon? What happens to the Republicans when Fox News (which we can all agree on, SUCKS, now) gets abandoned by the Trump base for OANN etc? Looks like a split to me. Rupert can be truly vengeful. True Trump supporters look to be about 30% max to me. Not enough to win anything.

As I said previously I hope Trump runs again in 2024, he has the chance to create a record that could never be repeated. Lose the popular vote three times and be impeached along the way. Truly impressive.

The Dow spiked not because Old Joe won but because the Dem blue wave did not materialize.  No one gives a rat's behind about the popular vote.  Just ask President Hillary.  If Trump wins in 2024, he wins.  Take it up with Thomas Jefferson while we move on.  I'm not sure I follow your point on the vaccines.   Who are these "other people" who funded it?  I would like to shake their hand if they have a solution to the virus.  Old Joe is watching Dragnet reruns while President Trump found a cure.   
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2489 on: November 17, 2020, 02:40:37 AM »
Griffith doesn't want to know. He doesn't care. All he cares about it what he wants; opening of the economy and the illusion of returning to a "normal life" with the pandemic raging all around him. All his "arguments" are just to somehow justify his untenable position.

So much hatred and desire for things to collapse.  Sorry.  Trump found a vaccine.  Things will be back to normal soon.  Chin up though. Maybe next time more people will die in greater numbers under a weak octogenarian.  Keep hoping for the worst.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2490 on: November 17, 2020, 02:43:24 AM »
So much hatred and desire for things to collapse.  Sorry.  Trump found a vaccine.  Things will be back to normal soon.  Chin up though. Maybe next time more people will die in greater numbers under a weak octogenarian.  Keep hoping for the worst.
You must be charming at cocktail parties. :)

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2491 on: November 17, 2020, 03:02:52 AM »
Donald Trump's stooges are coordinating a Republican coup to rig the election results and steal the election from the will of the people. Trump's GOP thugs are making false and bogus claims of "voter fraud" where not one single count can be found, Donald Trump refuses a peaceful transfer of power, and now Lindsey Graham pressured the Georgia Secretary of State to throw out legally casted ballots for Joe Biden to rig the state election for Donald Trump. Lindsey Graham needs to be indicted for this criminal attempt at rigging an election.


Georgia GOP election official ‘stunned’ after Lindsey Graham pressures him to throw out thousands of ballots
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/georgia-gop-election-official-stunned-after-lindsey-graham-pressures-him-to-throw-out-thousands-of-ballots/

Lindsey Graham should be investigated immediately’: Widespread shock after reports of Republican’s ‘election fraud
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/lindsey-graham-should-be-investigated-immediately-widespread-shock-after-reports-republicans-election-fraud/

Lindsey Graham’s shenanigans in Georgia could backfire — and cost the GOP the U.S. Senate
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/lindsey-grahams-shenanigans-in-georgia-could-backfire-and-cost-the-gop-the-u-s-senate/

Georgia’s GOP election chief reveals how Trump supporters sent ‘unsettling’ and ‘graphic’ threats to his wife’s phone
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/georgias-gop-election-chief-reveals-how-trump-supporters-sent-unsettling-and-graphic-threats-to-his-wifes-phone/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2492 on: November 17, 2020, 04:11:04 AM »
The Dow spiked not because Old Joe won but because the Dem blue wave did not materialize.  No one gives a rat's behind about the popular vote.  Just ask President Hillary.  If Trump wins in 2024, he wins.  Take it up with Thomas Jefferson while we move on.  I'm not sure I follow your point on the vaccines.   Who are these "other people" who funded it?  I would like to shake their hand if they have a solution to the virus.  Old Joe is watching Dragnet reruns while President Trump found a cure.

Did I say the Dow spiked because Joe was elected? It was coincident from memory and clearly after there would likely be no blue wave. Take away message was more anti Trump vote than anti Republican to me.

Obviously Republicans don’t care about popular vote as they have only managed to obtain it once in the last eight tries. I would be tempted to downplay it too given that success rate. Also the fact that the counties Democrats won account for 70% of US economic activity is an embarrassment for the party that prides itself on being the bastian of capitalism.

Those that developed the Pfizer vaccine were Germans. You can reach across the sea to shake. As I said, Trump found nothing other than others money to spend. Something I suggest he is expert at.

https://fortune.com/2020/11/09/pfizer-vaccine-funding-warp-speed-germany/

Any claim that it was "developed" under Warp Speed would be like going into a store and buying a coke, then claiming you invented it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2493 on: November 17, 2020, 04:22:53 AM »
Mr Crow: which vaccine is Gov funded and which independent,  and which seems much more stable vs crazy refrigeration needs?
Thx.

P.S. Regarding our new, socialist USA: On Jan 20th, all radio stations switch to the playing, on a loop, of the "Internationale" ...until the "gusanos" have been expelled!

Hey John,
Modern is a mRNA vaccine, has been quoted as 95% effective, was developed under Warp speed, appears to only need normal freezer storage to remain effective.

Pfizer is also a mRNA vaccine, has been quoted as 90% effective, was not developed under Warp Speed, but doses have been bought by the Govt. It needs special freezer storage making it’s deployment likely more complicated and expensive.

Who would have thought that the majority of voting Americans would choose "socialism" in 20 of the last 32 years. Then again it seems you need someone to save the economy from the crises triggered by the economic experts.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2494 on: November 17, 2020, 04:50:10 AM »
Michael T. Griffith keeps fraudulently claiming coronavirus deaths are "dropping". That's blatant disinformation folks. Both deaths and cases are rapidly rising in every state because of Donald Trump and the GOP refusing to combat this virus. At the rate of increasing hospitalizations, many states are going to be maxed out and moron right wingers refuse to have lockdowns to stop the spread of infection.   

U.S. Hits 1,100 Average Daily COVID Deaths, Rising to Summer High
https://www.newsweek.com/us-hits-1100-average-daily-covid-deaths-rising-summer-high-1547563

Coronavirus deaths are rising again in the US, as feared
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-virus-outbreak-ap-top-news-michael-pence-idaho-52978c2d2646bc190bd577cb132662b3

Massachusetts coronavirus cases rise 1,967, hospitalizations keep increasing
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/11/16/massachusetts-coronavirus-cases-rise-1967-hospitalizations-keep-increasing/

Iowa continues to see record hospitalizations as state reports 6 COVID-19 deaths, 2,335 coronavirus cases
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2020/11/16/covid-19-iowa-hospitalizations-surge-6-deaths-2-335-cases-reported/6308847002/

Coronavirus Is Surging: How Severe Is Your State’s Outbreak?
https://wamu.org/story/20/11/16/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s/

COVID 19 cases, deaths, concerns rise in Central Texas, around the state
https://www.kwtx.com/2020/11/13/covid-19-cases-deaths-concerns-rise-in-central-texas-around-the-state/

States consider new lockdowns as coronavirus cases increase
https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/states-consider-new-lockdowns-as-coronavirus-cases-increase

Schools across Central Texas fight COVID-19 infections as health officials consider increasing restrictions
https://www.kxan.com/news/education/schools-across-central-texas-fight-covid-19-infections-as-health-officials-consider-increasing-restrictions/

You’ve got to help us’: Doctor pleads with South Dakota governor as COVID cases explode higher
https://www.mywabashvalley.com/news/national-news/youve-got-to-help-us-doctor-pleads-with-south-dakota-governor-as-covid-cases-explode-higher/

Nurse says some patients deny COVID-19 is real, even as they die from it
by Nexstar Media Wire / Nov 16, 2020
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (NEXSTAR) – A South Dakota emergency room nurse says the patients "that stick out are those who still don't believe the virus is real."

https://www.mywabashvalley.com/news/national-news/nurse-says-some-patients-deny-covid-19-is-real-even-as-they-die-from-it/

These are the ignorant morons who were brainwashed by Donald Trump and the right wing media into thinking COVID-19 is a "hoax". That's why all this bogus disinformation is dangerous. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2495 on: November 17, 2020, 06:42:21 AM »
Hey John,
Modern is a mRNA vaccine, has been quoted as 95% effective, was developed under Warp speed, appears to only need normal freezer storage to remain effective.

Pfizer is also a mRNA vaccine, has been quoted as 90% effective, was not developed under Warp Speed, but doses have been bought by the Govt. It needs special freezer storage making it’s deployment likely more complicated and expensive.

Who would have thought that the majority of voting Americans would choose "socialism" in 20 of the last 32 years. Then again it seems you need someone to save the economy from the crises triggered by the economic experts.
Thanks for the scientific clarification, Comrade!
My voice is hoarse, from shouting "Viva Fidel" all day.
I must be strong, for there will be new recruits, come Jan 20th, to the ranks of "Young Pioneers".
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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