Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[John Tonkovich]

A good update on vaccine progress for those interested.

Thanks.
He covered everything.
What's his name?

[Colin Crow]

Thanks.
He covered everything.
What's his name?

Dr John Campbell. He’s a nurse with science PhD from UK.

[Rick Plant]

We've all read the nonsense coming from Michael T. Griffith trying to claim Sweden's model of Herd Immunity was seeing less infections and deaths. I quickly pointed out that was pure disinformation and it is. Sweden is seeing a huge rise in both infections and death forcing them to implement restrictions just like right wing Governors finally are doing here in the United States. If these idiots hadn't have waited so long to impose mask mandates and restrictions, we wouldn't have had the mass infection and death rate we are currently witnessing right now. What was the point of waiting? They still were forced to mandate restrictions. All it did was explode the virus and kill more people off. If they ALL did this from the get go, coronavirus wouldn't have taken over decimating countries and individual communities.   

Sweden, having refused to lock down, is now bringing in tougher COVID-19 restrictions as cases and deaths soar. 'This is the new norm,' the prime minister said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-covid19-covid-lockdown-restrictions-rules-deaths-cases-stefan-loftven-2020-11


Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds issues mask mandate after disparaging it as 'feel good' measure: Reynolds, a Republican, issued the state’s first mask mandate after months of disparaging coronavirus restrictions as “feel good” measures.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/iowa-gov-kim-reynolds-issues-mask-mandate-after-disparaging-it-n1247972


North Dakota has issued a mask mandate. Here’s why that’s a big deal: North Dakota had seen some of the highest numbers of COVID-19. Now, a mask mandate could help the state.
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/11/16/21569709/coronavirus-north-dakota-covid-19-cases-mask-mandate


But then we always have an ignorant right winger no matter how bad COVID-19 gets, still refusing to protect the residents of their state and to save lives. Republicans are not "Pro Life", they are Pro Death. 

Ricketts again refuses to issue mask mandate, says he does not feel they are 'appropriate'
https://www.ketv.com/article/gov-ricketts-to-hold-covid-19-news-conference-tuesday-afternoon-nov-17/34702435#

[Rick Plant]

Trump lap dog and corrupt stooge Lindsey Graham will have a lot to answer for when Joe Biden is sworn in on January 20th and his new DOJ takes over. Graham should be fully investigated for possible election tampering and fraud in South Carolina after he was outed and admitted to trying to get the Secretary of State of Georgia to throw out legally casted ballots for Joe Biden in order to rig the election for Donald Trump. Now it gets worse, Graham was also pressuring Nevada and Arizona to do the same thing. So, it's 3 states Lindsey Graham was in engaging in election fraud and tampering just to keep his corrupt messiah Donald Trump in power after he lost the election to Joe Biden. Since Graham is doing this illegal activity in other states, odds are he did the same in his own state. That's why a full investigation needs to be conducted and he should be indicted for election interference and attempted election fraud to change the outcome of an election in 3 different states.   

This is all GOP projection. They are the ones trying to rig and steal the election from Democrats and Joe Biden. They are doing this illegal activity behind the scenes while in public they scream about non-existent voter fraud. Today, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court shut down Donald Trump and stooge lawyer senile Rudy Giuliani over their imaginary "voter fraud" claims. When they have no case, they won't get very far in a court of law.       

Lindsey Graham admits trying to meddle with Nevada and Arizona vote counts in addition to Georgia
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/lindsey-graham-admits-trying-to-meddle-with-nevada-and-arizona-vote-counts-in-addition-to-georgia/

[Rick Plant]

It's getting worse for Trump lap dog and corrupt stooge Lindsey Graham as witnesses have now overheard Lindsey speaking with the Republican Georgia Secretary of State pressuring him to throw out ballots casted for Joe Biden. Lindsey Graham attempted to rig and steal the election from Joe Biden to give to Donald Trump to illegally stay in power. These corrupt and criminal GOP traitors will stoop to any level to have a coup taking away the will of the American people that elected Joe Biden. GOP thugs in Michigan refused to certify the election results to confirm Joe Biden won the state. Later this evening, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers reversed the illegal GOP actions and certfied the vote total. Never in the history of this country have we witnessed the GOP engage in a coordinated coup to install a deranged dictator who just lost an election that they worship as their messiah. Every single one of them needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is not a Third World country or a banana republic.   

Georgia secretary of state had witnesses on call when Lindsey Graham plotted to ‘throw out’ ballots
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/georgia-secretary-of-state-had-witnesses-on-call-when-lindsey-graham-plotted-to-throw-out-ballots/

'The truth won’: Michigan Secretary of State praises certification as Trump rants on Twitter
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/the-truth-won-michigan-secretary-of-state-praises-certification-as-trump-rants-on-twitter/

[Michael T. Griffith]

Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

[Martin Weidmann]

Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

Who cares about articles when the courts tell the real story. So far, some 20 cases lost or withdrawn for a lack of evidence.

There are two battles going on right now; one in the court of public opinion, where the Republicans can (and do) claim the most outrageous made up BS and the one in the courts, where they need to provide evidence for their shameless allegations and can't.

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"?

Who said the transmission rate doesn't matter?

they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

Just how ignorant do you need to be to not understand that letting people move around freely is the ideal way for the virus to spread, as has been shown since the re-opening of some States? Those who argue against lockdowns are the ones who ensure that it will be far more difficult to get the virus under control.

[Colin Crow]

Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

I read two of the articles. Want my ten minutes back. The Federalist, really? Do you not think we have any research skills..... Ben Domenech....gimme a break. Next time I suggest you synthesise something meaningful and present it. Rudy is desperate I hear. Anything the courts have accepted yet?

How’s Sweden going?

Our city just had first community transmission since mid April. So far 22 cases in four days. It was from leakage from quarantine hotel for expats returning. We have conservative state and federal government. Total lockdown for 6 days has just been announced. No schools and Universities open, only one person allowed out, once a day for essential travel. Masks compulsory outside. No bars or restaurant. No sporting activity. State border shut. Will let you know how the numbers go. USA is so far gone I wish you well. I am so thankful we had half reasonable leadership. Go hard and go early. When the going got tough in the USA your leadership went missing. You got a self confessed cheerleader instead.